Sunken Defense 05r

[Moderator]

21:46, 10th Aug 2010
ap0calypse: Approved

 

[-Kobas-]

Description look nice but you should fix map interface!
Lumber icon and maybe description is terrible

 

[Frotty]

Lumber Icon is default ?! And what maybe Description is terrible?

 

[Kl3sk]

Lumber Icon is default ?! And what maybe Description is terrible?

~ Dude, your map sucks hard! : This is what -Kobas- tried to say...only "nicer" ... I don't swing that way. You either hide your pretty crappy map over-view with a hidden tag , clean your English and add some REAL info about this map and game-play, thus improving description...or leave it as it is, I vote for rejection and possibly report it for using up Hive space for no particular reason. Neat ?

Edit : Before anyone can start a review (free from any obligation) , the reviewer must be given a reason to even consider downloading and testing that map. The really messy description and strangely placed details that make up the description itself (along with other things) really discourage people to actually play. There's no need to compare any approved map to yours, but as a potential player , I want to know : what does your map have that (I haven't seen before, or) others don't ?...if you can answer me that, you get your map a review and probably approval.

* As a side-note : Respecting the Hive rules always comes first.

 

[Frotty]

Great i can do this, and u calm down.
Test the map, dont just read the discription i copied and translated in 30 seconds. Thx

 

[WONDERWOMAN]

~ Dude, your map sucks hard! : This is what -Kobas- tried to say...only "nicer" ... I don't swing that way. You either hide your pretty crappy map over-view with a hidden tag , clean your English and add some REAL info about this map and game-play, thus improving description...or leave it as it is, I vote for rejection and possibly report it for using up Hive space for no particular reason. Neat ?

Edit : Before anyone can start a review (free from any obligation) , the reviewer must be given a reason to even consider downloading and testing that map. The really messy description and strangely placed details that make up the description itself (along with other things) really discourage people to actually play. There's no need to compare any approved map to yours, but as a potential player , I want to know : what does your map have that (I haven't seen before, or) others don't ?...if you can answer me that, you get your map a review and probably approval.

* As a side-note : Respecting the Hive rules always comes first.

You are exaggerating too much, even a child of 7 years realizes what must be done with just seeing the overview of complete map with those yellow arrows.
Would be wonderful that all hive's maps were uniques and specials... but, welcome to reality, that is imposible. People in bnet does not play the best maps always, this kind of maps are the reason that the other maps, those you know as "differents with things you never have seen", are really uniques. But that doesn't mean that this map sucks. Rules are stupid since in DC there's a non traslated german map. Come on, report this commentary, maybe the moderators will stop using their cronyism and ridiculous preference to hosted projects above rest of maps. And maybe you will receive the Hive's Brain Washed award. But then you may say me "Welcome to reality".

 

[kleinerhauck]

Kl3sk get ahold of yourself.
No need to chat him up just because the presentation's English isn't perfect.
In fact it delivers all required informations about the map which is imho a lot of fun.

 

[Ironside]

Information:


As a Reviewer of the Map Reviewers Group, I joined the THW Cleaning Event.
I end up writing a fast review, or just posting the end state of the map, rating is not always included!


Current State for this map: Approved


I will contact the moderator to Approve/Reject the map, depending on what you recieved.

 

[-Kobas-]

Small suggestion:
Add whole map description into

[box=name :D]
MAP DESCRIPTION
[/box]

This way you can remove that bug with text place

 

[Frotty]

@Barathrum Thx for approving
@Kobas Thx for the tip!

 

[Frotty]

Small Update that improves the light Shield and fixes all known Bugs of 05k

 

[snowman990]

i think you must make more heroes.

 

[Frotty]

Well i like to say, "better a few good ones, than many crappy ones!" , but you are right.
There are more Heros coming, but to make Heros in this map with only custom Spells takes the most time.

I replaced the old Screenshots with some new, current ones

 

[Frotty]

Finally i worked again abit on this map and can release 05n now.
Not really big changes, tho im working on some new Heros.
I also added a changelog and reupped the Screens, i hope the description is okay like that.
Pls report any bugs and imbalances u can find.
e: sry map wasnt working, fixed that issue in 05o

 

[Strikest]

Hey I played your map, it's pretty good but I found some glaring issues.

Major bugs—
After a while the waves stop spawning completely. So I far I've found this on normal mode, after you survive a lot of the scorpion waves, all waves stop spawning entirely.

Holy Knight's Reflections of Lights works on buildings. Makes killing towers and spawning grounds way too easy.

Holy Knight's Light Shield tooltip also states that it works on enemies. It does not.

Minor—

Got a lot of errors saying Double free of type—sefx.
I assume that's a bad thing. I notice that it tends to happen when you cast the fire guy's ultimate.

There's a typo in the water guy's ultimate—the learn tooltip says that level 4 does 500 damage, but there is no level 4.

Balance issues—

The vampire hero sucks, mostly because his skills are summons, and the summons suck. His skeleton summon is also a lot stronger than 10 of those zombies his ultimate summons.
The summons suck because they attack too slowly and die too fast. You should give them cleave since their slow attack speed makes them useless against large mobs, combined with how fast they die.

The Fire Lord's passive sucks.

The sea giant boss doesn't give any gold. Seems kind of a waste of time to kill him, especially since he has 45k hp and 20 armor.

It's very hard for non-aoe heroes like Holy Knight to get gold, especially since bosses stop giving gold after a while.

 

[Frotty]

Hi, thx for the feedback.
The bugs are known, but i dont intend to update this old messy map

After the scorpions the game is over, not really a bug, just no more waves - you then have to kill the rax to win.

The doublefrees are indeed coming from the firelord's ultimate, but other than spamming the screen it shouldnt be doing harm.

E: and yes, the vampire's ult is kinda sucky in this version - I nerfed it too much (used to be op)

I guess I could release a small balance update if I find the unprotected copy...

 

[Frotty]

The sea giant boss doesn't give any gold. Seems kind of a waste of time to kill him, especially since he has 45k hp and 20 armor.

It's very hard for non-aoe heroes like Holy Knight to get gold, especially since bosses stop giving gold after a while.

Bosses don't stop giving gold, they give gold to every player when killed (there is a message saying that).

When I play holy knight I have no gold problems, maybe it's your playstyle?
Items get sort of useless (except a few) lategame anyways, so yea.

 

[Strikest]

Ok, well the sea giant boss is the last boss(I think?) And he doesnt give gold to all players. No message, no nothing.

If you do intend to update the map, I suggest that you keep sending scorpion waves indefinetely, until the barrack of the lane is destroyed. Because it seems like kind of an abrupt end, when you're struggling to survive in your base, then suddenly the spawns stop and it becomes mega easy.

 

[Frotty]

k that's a bug then

 

[deepstrasz]

This is not easy on easy...

 

[Frotty]

in other words, the map is a challenge on all difficulties, but they still differ a lot.

 

[Sirmarkis29]

Nice map!!

 

[Frotty]

Why, thank you