Stunning Problem

[idodik]

Greetings Empire,

A problem, I have.
I made a trigger which fires impales facing outwards as soon as a unit does a war stomp. I made the war stomp have more stun duration than the impale, yet always when I fire the spell all stunned units are stunned only for the duration of the impale spell, because it hits them after the stomp.

Does anybody have a solution?

 

[Steelrose]

so the problem you are having is you combined Warstomp and impale.

Warstomp does a long stun on them... but when impale stuns them it overwrites the long stun?

Can you just use an alternate Impale and change the stun duration on Impale to the same as Warstomp?

 

[xXMephistoXx]

Reverse the process. Make the default ability Impale and use War Stomp with triggers. You'll get rid of the problem =)

 

[idodik]

Reverse the process. Make the default ability Impale and use War Stomp with triggers. You'll get rid of the problem =)

The problem with your solution, Mephisto, is that I want to make a 360 impale (lots of impales around the hero), meaning the ability has to be instant cast.

Can you just use an alternate Impale and change the stun duration on Impale to the same as Warstomp?

I would like the warstomp to stun them for more time, so - no. Sorry.

 

[xXMephistoXx]

Set the "Event" in your trigger to "Unit - A unit begins casting a spell". Then set casting time on the war stomp to a little (as little as possible, while still making it happen after the impales).

 

[idodik]

But that messes the animation order (the spell fires before the unit finishes casting)...

 

[xXMephistoXx]

Not if you set it to very little. Just so that it's 0.01 second aftet the impales.

 

[idodik]

Not if you set it to very little. Just so that it's 0.01 second aftet the impales.

Understand you, I did not.

 

[xXMephistoXx]

Just so that he casts War Stomp at almost exactly the same time as the Impale-trigger kicks in. But it has to be atleast 0.01 second after, so that the stun won't be overwritten.

 

[ninjaen]

idk if this will work but try removing stun effect from impale?

 

[Saishy]

Why can't you make the impale stun last the same as the war stomp? Or the war stomp don't stun at all...

So the unit will be stunned for the max duration, its not important where the stun comes at all...

 

[Nevermore]

Or could you base the warstomp on something without a stun? Like thunderclap, perhaps?

Dunno... just an idea.

 

[Deon]

Well, maybe you can try to add another buff for warstomp. Like it slows attack/movement speed by 100% and silences the targets so basically it works like stun (target cannot move/attack/use items) but it's not a stun so it continues after impale's stun worns off.

 

[Saishy]

Well, maybe you can try to add another buff for warstomp. Like it slows attack/movement speed by 100% and silences the targets so basically it works like stun (target cannot move/attack/use items) but it's not a stun so it continues after impale's stun worns off.

It don't work that way...

 

[idodik]

Mephisto, even if I were to trigger a warstomp before the impale - only the impale's stun would have effected the unit. That's precisely our case.
Nevermore's idea was the one I used... Instead of stunning I slowed the units with earthquake, that way the effect doesn't overwrite.
This is half-solved, because my case is finished, but I'd like to discuss how could we make a stun longer around the casting unit. Using Deon's idea this might be accomplished but it will be complex.

 

[xXMephistoXx]

You could pause the unit with triggers and add a special effect like the one for stun. That won't be exactly the same, but it will make the unit unable to do anythin, like stun.

 

[Lord_of_sausage]

Or, base the spell over a thunderclap. When the thunderclap is cated, it casts impale, and then it makes a dummy that casts warstomp. That way, the impale will hit first, but all units inside warstomp area, will get their stun overidden, and replaced with a longer one.

Hope you understand

 

[idodik]

Understand I do, and thank you I also do!

 

[M4stah]

Ehmm, how about creating the impale missle outside the warstomp .

 

[idodik]

Yes, I know, the Impale is just for the showoff.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Solution 1.
Make a dummy cast another stomp after the impale to overwride the short stun.

Solution 2.
Make the impale stun duration long, but use triggers to remove it after a while for units further away from the caster.

 

[idodik]

Make the impale stun duration long, but use triggers to remove it after a while for units further away from the caster.

How? With "Remove buff from unit"?

 

[Dr Super Good]

Yes, I do believe that works.

 

[idodik]

Okay, thanks.

 

[Wazzz]

Why don't you just change impale's stun duration to that of the War Stomp? The seems to be the most logical solution.

 

[Acutesharpness]

Idodik, a way to make the stun longer is to use the stun multiple ability that will do multiple stun using the, periodic time event. Like chronosphere in dota, it picks up units and stun them with no buff. There is no exact way to determind a stun duration from a unit but it can be done using trigger with variable real with an array (call it stundur)to make it mui.
A variable of type unit with array(call it stununit)

First you will need a trigger, event of periodic time that runs every 0.05
Action will be for loop 1 to (depends of your array){if stununit[integerA] not equal no unit then { if stun duration greater than 0 then {stundur[integerA] - 0.05}}}

if you understand, the rest will be piece of cake

 

[idodik]

Idodik, a way to make the stun longer is to use the stun multiple ability that will do multiple stun using the, periodic time event. Like chronosphere in dota, it picks up units and stun them with no buff. There is no exact way to determind a stun duration from a unit but it can be done using trigger with variable real with an array (call it stundur)to make it mui.
A variable of type unit with array(call it stununit)

First you will need a trigger, event of periodic time that runs every 0.05
Action will be for loop 1 to (depends of your array){if stununit[integerA] not equal no unit then { if stun duration greater than 0 then {stundur[integerA] - 0.05}}}

if you understand, the rest will be piece of cake

Meh, too complicated.

 

[wolfman]

Did you use the same buffs? Or maybe the same base ability. If you used the same exact stun buff for the impale stun and warstomp stun, then maybe the second time the unit gets that buff, the first one will then be cancelled. So try to make 2 different buffs for stun, one for the warstomp and one for the impale. Also if you used warstomp for the base ability for your 360° impale try using the naga warstomp instead. Idk if thats the problem but its worth a try.

Oh yea Destiny.Knight, i believe that chronosphere selects all units within range and pauses them and their animation, not stuns them.