Spellbook and Morphing Spells

[Shadowclaimer]

Alright, first off haven't been here in awhile so apologies if I'm in the wrong section.

But here's my issue.

I created a Spellbook called "Mutate" and put 3 spells in it, one of them summons a Placeholder Zombie and replaces it with a real one when summoned (no biggie).

The issue is the other two spells, both use Bear Form as a base. When I try to use one of them the other one triggers, and if I use the other it triggers right, whats going on and how can I fix it. I had this same issue earlier with two summoning spells in the same book as well ><

 

[Deathbringer]

Sorry this is my main account*

 

[Eleandor]

It doesn't matter whether the spells are in a spellbook or not. This always happens with spells that are based off the same basic spell. You'll either have to:
- find an alternative to bear form summon with a DIFFERENT order Id, for instance the far seer summonspell.
- Base your second spell off channel, change the order id of channel and trigger the effects of the second spell...

 

[NO_exe]

you have to change the spell ID in the object editor, if a unit has two spell with the same ID, they both cast.

edit: damm...eleandor was faster, maybe mine helps you, too

 

[Deathbringer]

So is there anyway to change the specific ID of the spell without changing the entire spell? I don't see anything inside the object editor about it. The Channel thing is always an option but I'd choose to avoid it for the time being (no need to complicate it if I don't have to)

I'm running WE Unlimited if that helps at all ><

 

[DragoonZombie]

They use the same Order. That means if you cast it, the unit tries to cast both, since they have the same order. Sadly you can't solve that problem.

You either have to use another morphing ability like Metamorphosis or the Storm Crow form.

 

[Deathbringer]

So this means I'm literally limited on how many summoning spells one unit has then unless I use channeling ><

I'll go with the channeling thing, thank you for your assistance, I may be back for more help later.

 

[Eleandor]

Sorry, I thought you meant you had summon bear from that half-ogre hero... So you can't use the far seer summon ofcourse

 

[NO_exe]

So is there anyway to change the specific ID of the spell without changing the entire spell?

yes, my WE is german, so I tell you the rawdata code ,
for a morp spell change Order to 'ravenform' and Unorder to 'unravenform'

for a summon spell change Order to 'spiritwolf',

thats only an example, of course you can take other orders

 

[Deathbringer]

Another question, how can I make channel have a tooltip <.<

 

[DragoonZombie]

Wait, wasn't this about morphing the hero?
If it was about summoning then as already said use Channel.
When casted create a dummy unit, give it the real spell and let it cast the summoning.

//Edit:
You guys are replying too fast =/

 

[Deathbringer]

No its about morphing, ignore the summoning part it was just part of the entire explanation of the situation.

Unit has two morphing spells both based off bear form, both use simultaneously.

I'm going to try using channel to proc the spells, but Channel doesn't have a tooltip ><

Edit: Rather have too much help then not enough

 

[NO_exe]

just change 'Text - Orderstring - Activate' to 'ravenform' and 'Text - Orderstring - Deactivate' to 'unraveform' for one of these morphing spells based on bearform, this way you dont need to create a new spell. (my editor is german, I translated those fiels, they maybe dont fit with yours)

 

[Deathbringer]

That would work, but then I'm limited on exactly how many summon spells are available to me.

I'd have to do Raven Form, UnravenForm, Bear Form, Unbearform, SphinxForm, UnSphrinxForm, Stoneform, Unstoneform, etc.

Theres only about 10 available of that type, and I plan on more morphs then that available.

 

[NO_exe]

I guess u can use the immolation order as well,

 

[Deathbringer]

Immolation isn't a morph type spell =/

 

[NO_exe]

I know, but if u make a spell based on bearfrom and just change the order to immolation, it probably works.

 

[Deathbringer]

No good, swapping up the IDs does NOT work, I've tried swapping the second spell to about 5 different spellIDs now and none of them work.

 

[DragoonZombie]

You could try using Channel and if casted give the hero the according morphing skill and order it to cast it.

Once the UnMorphing skill is casted you can remove the skill again.

 

[NO_exe]

yeah, just create for each morphing spell u want, a dummy spell based on channel, if he casts, add him the real morphing spell and order him to cast,dont forget to remove the spell later, like DragoonZombie told you.

this way all your morphing spells can have the same ID, Ï€€

 

[Need_O2]

Order doesnt matter its about Base ID

Just use Metamorphosis or crown form for other one

 

[Deathbringer]

But what about channel, it has no tooltip, its ugly and just shows up as words, anyway I can fix this?

 

[Eleandor]

Create a tooltip perhaps?

 

[Deathbringer]

Create one? There is no Tooltip string in the object's list

 

[Need_O2]

shift + double click value

 

[Eleandor]

Create one? There is no Tooltip string in the object's list

uhm...

"Text - Tooltip" not good enough for you?

 

[Deathbringer]

uhm...

"Text - Tooltip" not good enough for you?

Um Text - Tooltip doesn't exist in the list for Channel.

As for shift + double click value I'm trying it now, never even heard of it.

Edit: Shift-Double Click is cool, but didn't fix what was going on.

Also heres a screenshot of what Channel offers..

 

[Eleandor]

What version of TFT do you have??

 

[Deathbringer]

1.21

I'm using WE Unlimited

 

[DragoonZombie]

Try it with the normal WE.