Solar Conquest v0.97e

[Dwarf_King]

Found A Bug With The Cyborgs

I found a bug with the Cyborg Commando unit. Occasionally, when using their jump ability, a Cyborg would become stuck mid-jump. They would become invulnerable, and unmovable.

 

[H3lios]

New stuff

Dreadlords

This would be an awesome ship if it weren't totally overpowered. With he ability to sneak through any planetary defense network without a horde of stealth detection, this ship can easily blast through any plantary defender in a few runs. It also has the annoying aspect of making space battles completely absurd via it's perm invis ability (The same culprit which allows it to infinitely bombard a planet). These guys will decloak, fire and recloak before weapon systems can hit them. The result is a nearly invulnerable ship in space battles. This becomes absurd when both sides have dreads and you end up with a never ending battle as both sides will end up shooting the others detector ships.

 

[Hunter9G]

In .84 the Empire controls could not be selected. has this been fixed?

 

[H3lios]

Yes, empire controls can be selected. THis is a problem only for you.

Also, the new version is totally broken. I just hosted a game and I had a 100% crash rate on load with a full house.

 

[TKF]

I found a bug with the Cyborg Commando unit. Occasionally, when using their jump ability, a Cyborg would become stuck mid-jump. They would become invulnerable, and unmovable.

I will look onto it.

Yes, empire controls can be selected. THis is a problem only for you.

Also, the new version is totally broken. I just hosted a game and I had a 100% crash rate on load with a full house.

I never had problems with empire controls in 0.84

Also I never had a crash either. Does this happen everytime in fullhouse games in 0.84b?

 

[H3lios]

.84 runs fine.
.84b crashes even in SP. I watched a full house on solar disconnect as soon as they finished loading. Got a few whispers that they crashed a few mins later. I can't get it to run on anything.

 

[TKF]

.84 runs fine.
.84b crashes even in SP. I watched a full house on solar disconnect as soon as they finished loading. Got a few whispers that they crashed a few mins later. I can't get it to run on anything.

Weird. I didn't do any major trigger changes for b version. I downloaded it to see if it was corrupted, but it did work for me in single player. I can't see any reason why it should crash or understand why. Tried to redownload the map? Mac?

 

[H3lios]

Nah man, I'm on windows. I'm redownloading the map right now to see if it was just my bad.

Just re-downloaded, no problems. Was my fault after all.

 

[Hunter9G]

O don't think it was just me, considering when i asked all the peeople in game they had same problem

 

[SasuhKun]

Keep the good job, keep the good job, keep the good job! +rep.

 

[TKF]

In .84 the Empire controls could not be selected. has this been fixed?

O don't think it was just me, considering when i asked all the peeople in game they had same problem

Does this problem occur in 0.84b? I don't have that same problem.

 

[Hunter9G]

I'm not sure. no one else has hosted .84b

 

[Jargalhurts]

I think Robotics research shouldn't be a final tier tech. Cuz it offers so little for a Final tier tech: Cyborg commandos, spider drones and repair drones. Should make it a normal research or give more capabilities.

 

[SasuhKun]

lol? Until TKF assumed, it was one of the most rigged techs on the whole game...

 

[TKF]

I think Robotics research shouldn't be a final tier tech. Cuz it offers so little for a Final tier tech: Cyborg commandos, spider drones and repair drones. Should make it a normal research or give more capabilities.

No, its very powerful as it is. The cyborgs have the ability to EMP and jump, so they shouldn't be so unbalanced with these amazing abilities. Also they are very good at ground invasions, but they aren't as overpowered as they were before. If you have a decent defence you should be able to also keep them back, unless you are facing an armada of them ^^


About the Cyborg jump bug, I'm going to remake the jump system from scratch by making a basic movement trigger. When that's done, the new version comes along with the star base readded again, but now it's customizable with module system.


Edit_
Version 0.85 has been released!

Featuring module system for capital ships. Battlestation and modules will change the gameplay radically (blame me for trying stars ^^). For example install jump drive module without need of warp tech. I would like feedback on this system, cuz I might need to balance it cuz it's hard to predict how much this change the gameplay.

 

[Jargalhurts]

I think that a Final Tier Tech of Terraforming would be nice.
Like: Changes the Climate of a planet and its occupiers will have lesser resource gains, slowed research speed, slowed construction speed and other economically affecting stuff.

 

[Arcmage]

I think that the recent changes to Ion tech have made the Dark Matter tech tree rather rigged and fusion near useless. Fusion costs pretty much the same amount of tech as Dark matter you don't need to get Dark matter discovery but you do need lasers which require a bunch of ground tech to get so they are pretty much equally expensive. That said Fusion ships are obviously supposed to be good vs other ships and Dark Matter sneaky and well rounded but an uncloaked Dark Matter fleet with not tactical maneuvering was able to easily beat my Fusion fleet. This is because Dark Matters tier 1 ships is pretty much superior to Fusions in every way.

I think Dark Matters tier 1 ship needs to have a lower range this would force you to use it in conjunction with Dark Matters cloaking ability instead of just using it as a massed assault unit and balance it vs Fusion. The Ion cannon in my opinion is also rigged it can fire very rapidly so you can sneak it over someone world during combat and reduce there economy to ash without ever having to invade there world. Oblivions are pretty balanced in my opinion and I haven't used dread lords enough to know. Please note this is coming from someone who usually uses fusion and ion tech, believe me its unbalanced.

 

[TKF]

I think that the recent changes to Ion tech have made the Dark Matter tech tree rather rigged and fusion near useless. Fusion costs pretty much the same amount of tech as Dark matter you don't need to get Dark matter discovery but you do need lasers which require a bunch of ground tech to get so they are pretty much equally expensive. That said Fusion ships are obviously supposed to be good vs other ships and Dark Matter sneaky and well rounded but an uncloaked Dark Matter fleet with not tactical maneuvering was able to easily beat my Fusion fleet. This is because Dark Matters tier 1 ships is pretty much superior to Fusions in every way.

I think Dark Matters tier 1 ship needs to have a lower range this would force you to use it in conjunction with Dark Matters cloaking ability instead of just using it as a massed assault unit and balance it vs Fusion. The Ion cannon in my opinion is also rigged it can fire very rapidly so you can sneak it over someone world during combat and reduce there economy to ash without ever having to invade there world. Oblivions are pretty balanced in my opinion and I haven't used dread lords enough to know. Please note this is coming from someone who usually uses fusion and ion tech, believe me its unbalanced.

Hmm... I saw in the editor that the cheapest dark fighter did cost 280, which is to cheap for it to be balanced. I increased it's cost to 400 to make it correctly balanced. It will be fixed for next version (thanks for noticing me of this)

As for the long range dark Shade ship which requires lv6 dark drives, it's meant to be effective against short range ships with it's gravity well and effectively chase ships that is caught in the gravity well. But I will add a minimum speed on most ships so the biggest ships wouldn't be slowed to much.


Ion cannon is a super weapon as with the nuclear and mutagen. It's a good bombardment weapon when you have taken out the space defense presence, but it's weak against good GTS and PML defence. But I think I'm going to increase it's cooldown from 60 seconds to 90. I can agree that the ion cannons are pretty powerful compared to it's price. However if a player don't build defense around his planet, he will be vulnerable against such surprise actions.

Edit_

I think that a Final Tier Tech of Terraforming would be nice.
Like: Changes the Climate of a planet and its occupiers will have lesser resource gains, slowed research speed, slowed construction speed and other economically affecting stuff.

That would be to much to edit, and I have no plans about it. I was thinking on giving Antarion a destroy planet ability in 0.82, but it would prove to be to much work since the entering planet triggers and everything related to planets must have been redone. Instead I gave it bombard ability with low cooldown. Also it would been a way to simple to win. I have no plans of terraforming either...

Edit_

New version!

Solar Conquest 0.86b
Featuring a new final tier tech, a economy tech which gives the player a huge economic advantage as a trade federation. Also several polishing, unit balancing and lot of bugfixes; also concerning the planetary missile launcher nuke bug. I discovered that my silos failed me when I tried to defend my planet with nukes, but due to a trigger bug it didn't fire :/
Oblivion is the only capital ship which has 2 module slots now (It's a super capital ship which also depend on a final tier tech)

I haven't received a single feedback about the modules I've implemented. I was planning on removing them of they did destroy/alter the gameplay to much, but I'll keep them for now and they will most likely stay as a permanent addition. They can make the space battles maybe to complex for everyone to handle it easy...

 

[Albtraum69]

Hello, ive been playing solar conquest now quite a while and im hosting it a few times a day and must tell you im impressed that i never saw such features and triggering in a space warfare map before.

Anyway, besides that there cant be much complainment about balance (hence everyone have the same choice of techs anyway) i wanted to suggest an additional game mode.

Something like infestation, choosing 1-2 random player who will change to a alien-kind(thinking of zerg similiarity) of race, while every player will gain a Main capital building.

Its simple, if either alien or human lost their main capital building they're also defeated, however that would open a few ways for customization and special features in that mode who could attract even more people.

For example, alien player could choose to either destroy (for a ressource bonus) or infest another players main capital.

But after all, its just a suggestion, and im aware that creating an alien mini-tech tree could consume some time.

Looking forward for future versions, great work.

 

[TKF]

Hello, ive been playing solar conquest now quite a while and im hosting it a few times a day and must tell you im impressed that i never saw such features and triggering in a space warfare map before.

Anyway, besides that there cant be much complainment about balance (hence everyone have the same choice of techs anyway) i wanted to suggest an additional game mode.

Something like infestation, choosing 1-2 random player who will change to a alien-kind(thinking of zerg similiarity) of race, while every player will gain a Main capital building.

Its simple, if either alien or human lost their main capital building they're also defeated, however that would open a few ways for customization and special features in that mode who could attract even more people.

For example, alien player could choose to either destroy (for a ressource bonus) or infest another players main capital.

But after all, its just a suggestion, and im aware that creating an alien mini-tech tree could consume some time.

Looking forward for future versions, great work.

Well thanks!

As for you idea for gamemode, I think it doesn't fit for Solar Conquest and it would make the game "to alien" to players.


However I have an idea for mutagenic lifeform evolution which I'm going to add in next version so they act as a independent threath.

Also I'm going to add a new ship for fusion dock so they have a new capital ship to choose from. It's a special ship armed with drones.

Spoiler

 

[DarkKnight]

Space was scorched, anyway, you made me think of something, how about making the, perhaps over-powered, end-techs have dangers? For example, something like genetic research, would spawn the danger of creating a hostile mutationous creatures-race? =3 (Just throwing a random suggestion in)

 

[Lungdrache]

I am Fan of Space Contest Maps!Please say me who I can make the in- and out zoom Planet Cam?

 

[SoulFire]

A hero unit in the space and on the ground would be great (Commander) with different auras and support skills. (maybe a final tech or an expensive unit and tech)

EDIT: I hosted the new version twice and I get 2 fatal:
Object: CUnitListNode (.?AUCUnitListNode@@)

 

[WerewolfR]

0.87b lagging =(

 

[TKF]

EDIT: I hosted the new version twice and I get 2 fatal:
Object: CUnitListNode (.?AUCUnitListNode@@)

When did that problem occur? Far ingame or short? I look over everything and I can't find what I did wrong when I optimized.

Did someone use any super weapons?


______________

I may have to enable IsUnitType Enforce safety to prevent unitgroup fatal errors, but this again would increase the lagg ingame even more....

 

[SoulFire]

short in game no superweapons or anything i just used rocket marines flame throwers

 

[TKF]

I'm going to figure out why the latest version crashes and do some testings until I get a game which do not crash at all the way to the end. I hadn't had one yet today and trying to find why error occurs....


I think I'm going to revert to 0.86b version and start from there, unless someone also experience fatal error problems with that version as well.

Edit_1

0.88 is released! Hopefully without fatal errors.

Edit_2

0.88 version is stable and good to go. Have fun with the new version. I tested the new ship recently added and it proved to be effective against smaller ships in formations.

 

[Shadowthehedgehog]

Hi. I can't get this map to work. I put in warcraft 3 file and started warcraft 3 and it was their in maps but when i clicked start the chained wall things went up and back down. It didn't start the map. Can someone pls help?

 

[-Kobas-]

Really awesome map but I don't like few stuff:

1st of all there is no some DIS BTN/PAS icons grrrrrrrrrr dude!

2nd some icons are made in different art style than others that also looks a little bad!

I needed to play game 3 or 4 times to find way to go to space, build some powerful units etc etc!
Maybe you can create something like hint system for new players...
Player can write: -help and each few sec on screen can be displayed base information, what to build, how to make defense, you know, tips and hints!

 

[TKF]

Well, I did fix some "green icons" and also added -hint command in next version.


You have a research center, which can be upgraded into 3 different tech trees. In order to access all, you must have 3 tech centres and choose economy- ground- and space research. In order to access space research you need to research some ground techs first. It takes some time until you are able to enter space.


It might be hard for players who plays this map the first times, but you will learn in a few games about most of the game mechanics. It's recommended to conquest your entire planet for maximum economy output before entering space.


________

0.88b being is released with recent bugfixes and addition of new Command Center Upgrades.

 

[-Kobas-]

I played game and learned all that but I needed some time, there are some dudes that will quit game after few min when they see how it looks so I give idea to create help system

 

[frostloh]

rofl i just uncloaked an oblivion in the middle of my opponent's HUGE fleet and used my ion storm ability and KABOOM...all of them died...shortly after that he rage left

 

[DarkKnight]

Did the Ion storm come from above, and not from the ship? Becouse if it did, then I think it'd need some fixing, either that it can only be used on a planet, or that it comes from the ship, if I'm wrong, correct me =D.

 

[TKF]

The Ion Storm is a space super weapon generated by Oblivion and it attacks space units only. Also Oblivion has wrong costs and should cost 5000, not 4000 which makes it unbalanced compared to other capital ships. I forgot to readjust costs of oblivion after I buffed its HP.

Also fixing the camera bounds and zoom bug when using starport change view ability.



The editor is having fun with me. For no reason at all the scaling values on the units were modified without me editing it. Funny bugs in the editor. For some odd reason battlestation is insanely overscaled which I must fix. If you find any bugs report it within 4-5 hours before I release the quickfix version.

 

[DarkKnight]

Okay, so my post was irrelevant, thanks for clearing it up =D.

 

[Lungdrache]

Can you make a survive mode?
On every Starting planet is a mutant/virus or somthing
Never endings attacks
and why have you remove the Elektric Fence?
More powerfull weapons please (for every Final-Tier-tech a Titan)
Examble:
Robotics________Titan on Ground
Warp___________Spaceship (that can go to a planet)
Mutation________Big Monster (that can burrow in the ground)
Nuclear Warhead_Spaceship (full with Nuclear bombs and on death explode it)
..........

 

[TKF]

Can you make a survive mode?
On every Starting planet is a mutant/virus or somthing
Never endings attacks
and why have you remove the Elektric Fence?
More powerfull weapons please (for every Final-Tier-tech a Titan)
Examble:
Robotics________Titan on Ground
Warp___________Spaceship (that can go to a planet)
Mutation________Big Monster (that can burrow in the ground)
Nuclear Warhead_Spaceship (full with Nuclear bombs and on death explode it)
..........

What is the point that a ship that can jump to a planet? Ships can jump around in space with warp drive. You cannot jump inside gravity well and to prevent cheatful instant spacecraft invasions which bypass defenses.


And electric fence won't be back. Several lightnings will cause the game to crash. I replaced it with a huge artillery instead.

The super weapons are pretty powerful already and I have no plans of buffing them with extra techs or whatever. You have more than enough nuclear powers already with nuclear tech.


About modes I won't add survival mode. Maybe I'll add a Space Age mode which gives you the most basic space techs already researched at start to play a quicker game for unpatient players who won't spend the first 10-20 minutes in the game just to research space techs and get into space.

 

[Arcmage]

In my honest opinion Ion tech is still rigged. It gives you the best space ship in the game Oblivion and one of the best bombardment weapons (Ion cannon) which is still highly glitzy (you don't have to wait for the cool down to fire it you can fire it unlimited times) The ion cannon is amazing because its perfectly acuret and you can just blast there GTS lasers and GTS rocket launchers with it. The oblivion is amazing because it can decloak anywhere and obliterate an entire fleet. I would recommend that ion tech require tier 8 DM engines as it use to to stop people form rushing Ion cannons and that Oblivions not be invulnerable during ion storm (you can kill them to stop the storm and they kill themselves at the end).

 

[TKF]

In my honest opinion Ion tech is still rigged. It gives you the best space ship in the game Oblivion and one of the best bombardment weapons (Ion cannon) which is still highly glitzy (you don't have to wait for the cool down to fire it you can fire it unlimited times)

Does this bug also occur in 0.88c? I've tested it several times and I cannot recreate the Ion Cannon bug. I thought it was fixed.

 

[Lungdrache]

Thanks for the Answer!
I don´t mean that the Spaceship from warp tech can warp on a planet.
I have mean that the Spaceship are very powerfull and can attack on the planet.
oh a other idea:I have play Solar Conquest and i have made a planet full with Creatures(mutanten).Now I cannot conquer the Planet ,because to many Creatures are on the planet.When i have a Spaceship that was Very powerfull against ground-units,but low against vehicles and buildings.My Questionlease make this Spaceship.

 

[TKF]

I'm working on a new version of Solar Conquest. I've added a bunch of triggers for the new unit I'm going to add. Also I'm going to nerf Oblivion Ion Storm a bit, and also so you have to research dark energy engines lv10 before you can build it. It's a super capital ship, so I add lv10 restriction on all super capitals ship classes for each drydock. Those super ships cost 5000 each and hard to unlock which requires expensive researches.


Also I'm going to add quick camera controls (F2) so you can quickly shift between planets in addidtion to the ESC/Select planet interface.

I saw that Callex already implemented the triggers for it, so I don't get it why he removed it. I'm just adding it to existence for players.


0.89b released!

 

[Lungdrache]

A BUG!!!!

Screen Capture

I have fired with the Galaktik Cannon.

 

[TKF]

The Galactic Planet Buster Cannon wasn't supposed to rape terrain is space. When did that happen?

 

[Hunter9G]

Gotta admit that looks pretty kickass though. reminds me of The HitchHikers guide to the galaxy, when they were making a hyperspace bypass

 

[huntere15]

I found a bug, when I researched Ion final tier some upgrades that weren't final tiers dissapeared also like the laser cutting tools and laser weaponry and a few other vital upgrades

 

[H3lios]

Aren't Laser cutting tools and such a pre-requisite to Ion?

 

[TKF]

I found a bug, when I researched Ion final tier some upgrades that weren't final tiers dissapeared also like the laser cutting tools and laser weaponry and a few other vital upgrades

Hmm this shouldn't happen. Well if you research laser stuff before they should become available. I'll take a look on this.

I fail to fix the galactic cannon terrain rape bug. It tends to do that just randomly. I leave it for now cuz I don't know how to find the cause of it.


And no actually laser cutting tools isn't a pre-requisite for ion cannon.


Edit_

About modes I won't add survival mode. Maybe I'll add a Space Age mode which gives you the most basic space techs already researched...

Released a new version with space mode implemented for those who don't want to spend the initial 10-20 minutes of the game getting to space.

Also bugfixes as usual and some importand ingame balancing.

You must now research stealth fields in order to cloak dark energy ships. Since it's possible to rush them and easily bypass players planets which maybe don't have detection at that moment get a unfair slip-trough attack, you must also make hard researches on ground to unlock stealth capabilities.

Also another important fix is that you can now use space flight in groups, so you don't have to select one and one ship at the time to get them back to orbit.

And finally, Planetary Shield is now useful against Galactic Cannon shots. Making shield technology more useful than ever before.

 

[Lungdrache]

The Galactic Planet Buster Cannon wasn't supposed to rape terrain is space. When did that happen?

I have shoot with the Galaktic Cannon on the Planet and on the Space and in the planet was that.
Ps:It is not that first time that such things happened.This also happens by a nuclear bomb

 

[huntere15]

Yea the upgrade bug is still present in .89c, Laser upgrades dissapear

 

[Hunter9G]

Anyone know any clans that host this?