Shadow meld bugged?

[WarCortez]

For some reason, I can't trigger shadow meld. I wanted to add regeneration to it by trigger with no success. Then I made an incredibly simple trigger to it and it still didn't work.

• Untitled Trigger 002
  • Events
    • Unit - Hero <gen> Begins casting an ability
  • Conditions
    • (Ability being cast) Equal to Shadow Meld
  • Actions
    • Wait 2.00 seconds
    • Cinematic - Send transmission to (All players) from Hero 0018 <gen> named Hero: Play No sound and display Working. Modify duration: Set to 3.00 seconds and Don't wait

 

[chobibo]

Did you make sure the game time is night?

 

[WarCortez]

It was set to 0:00 and it stays that way.

 

[Bannar]

Use "Starts effect of an ability" rather than "Begins casting an ability".

Make sure you store data in variables (globals/locals) if you want to use waits. Refer to those variables later on, after waits to prevent null-references via native functions.

 

[Pharaoh_]

I am not sure if Shadow Meld is triggered by such ability-casting events. Try a unit is issued an order instead and set the order string/id to the conditions.

 

[WarCortez]

I can only put the hero in variable, but it doesn't change it. Start effect doesn't make it work either :/

Pharaoh: I'm not sure I'm getting this

 

[chobibo]

You have to order the unit to use shadowmeld, like Pharaoh said. I thought the trigger you posted was a debug message, my mistake, sorry.

 

[Bannar]

Shadow-meld might be an ability which on "auto-cast" doesnt really fire detectable ability order, thus is it impossible to react on such event.

In my (Polish editor) there are 2 abilities named similarly to "Shadow Meld", however, if you we speak about generic Night Elves one, then yes, this issue will bit you.

 

[WarCortez]

Now, that's confusing. How it make it work if I issue order to use shadow meld instead of doing it myself?

 

[Pharaoh_]

Unit - A unit is issued an order with no target
(Issued Order) Equal to Order(ambush)
Actions here.

 

[WarCortez]

Hmm, thanks, Pharaoh, this version working (although only with manually clicking on shadow meld.)

 

[Bannar]

As stated:

Shadow-meld might be an ability which on "auto-cast" doesnt really fire detectable ability order, thus is it impossible to react on such event.

So, only manual or forced action will actually call approriate event.

 

[WarCortez]

Yes, I read it. The only 2 other versions I know are the instant and the akama-version, but both autocast-type.

 

[Bannar]

Such issue usually ends up being a timer-dependant script. Periodic timer checks buffs of units which possess given ability A, (in your case, this "checking" should occurr only at nighttime) and if such buff is found you could fire "delayed" event for given unit B.

 

[WarCortez]

Does shadow meld count as buff?

EDIT: Anyway, I managed to make a trigger that causes shadow melded units to heal if they have a certain dummy ability. Although the process requires manual shadow meld it's still better than nothing, so thank you all.

 

[Bannar]

I don't think so. This case is even more wierd. Checking for unit being idle and/or current order might be a solution.

However, ask yourself at first what is it your really need and then proceed.

 

[Pharaoh_]

I just made a system based on Bribe's IsUnitMoving system.
You register the value "ShadowMeldFadeIn", according to your value in the field "Fade Duration" of the Shadow Meld ability.
The "TimedEvent" variable allows you to determine lower values, e.g. if you have a fading duration of X.3, you need to set TimedEvent to 0.3. For the example, I made a floating text saying "Detected!", but you can of course delete it and replace it with the desirable action.

This could be even better with local timers per unit moving, so as to avoid a global enumeration, but this is fine as well.

 

[WarCortez]

Umm, thank you, although this seems a rather complicated solution to my monkey brain. I'm not sure how simpler it would be if this only need to work on a single unit but I never used hashtable before and JASS is pretty much beyond me.

 

[Pharaoh_]

For a single unit, you only check for that unit with the events given in the test map, instead of enumerating. Additionally, you don't add it to a unit group, you simply use the variable that has the unit stored and finally, you don't even use a hashtable, just use a simple variable, from which you subtract "TimedEvent". If it goes to 0 or less, then turn off the trigger and set the variable of TimedEvent to ShadowMeldFadeIn value.

You don't have a monkey brain, you are just not familiar with certain functions and terms.

 

[WarCortez]

The problem is that I have hard time to separate which event exactly refers to what function (and since english is only a second language for me, it doesn't make it easier). Although you described the stuff to the trigger, it's pretty highly advanced for me to comprehend. The point would be giving restoring properties to the shadow meld. The only thing it misses is noticing the automatic shadow melding.

• Regeneration
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Is issued an order with no target
  • Conditions
    • (Issued order) Equal to (Order(ambush))
    • (Level of One With The Night for (Triggering unit)) Equal to 1
    • (Triggering unit) Equal to Hero
  • Actions
    • Wait 2.00 seconds
    • Unit - Add Regeneration (hero) to Hero
    • Unit - Add Mana Regeneration (hero) to Hero

I made 3 triggers for checking moving (it may sloppy, but I don't see 'or' option among trigger events)

• Stop reg1/2/3
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Is issued an order with no target/target object/target point
  • Conditions
    • (Issued order) Not equal to (Order(ambush))
    • (Triggering unit) Equal to Hero
  • Actions
    • Unit - Remove Regeneration (hero) from Hero
    • Unit - Remove Mana Regeneration (hero) from Hero

 

[Pharaoh_]

Okay, let me know how you create this unit (if it is preset or trigger-created), if it can die (e.g. it's not an NPC) and how do you bring it back to life (if you do), e.g. via Resurrection or a respawn system.

 

[WarCortez]

It's present originally, although it's moves between maps, so it's original ID isn't do any good. It's belong to the player (well, a rescuable hero) and has only one life. The campaign's structure is kind of a mixture of Warchasers and To Tame a Land.