^ Amazing.. and? Tell me how many people actually play them? just a few on THW and no one else anywhere else? please, any of the new games > all that war3 stuff which is OUTDATED. Whatever... time for another break and maybe longer if not permament. It's not like I should be changing this place to my likings.
Just because they are not popular doesn't mean they are not good/great.
So you're fighting for being mentioned rather than trying to make the site recognized and receive what other fansites receive from Blizzard? Maybe i would have had a better impression about the place. Like reporting, making articles, videos, streamings, telling Blizzard 'Look at us we are presenting your NEW game!' And Blizzard may have a spot on this site.
Or you could do it yourself and become a Moderator here, the kind which keeps THW well known to the world. Instead of bashing it around as if you are in some kind of loss.
Edit: As a hiver with a low average of 120 posts per year, I have to say that...
If THW wants to have a future, a real future, a serious future, a future which impacts upon others...
THW really does need to make the jump to newer games like SC2 and D3.
Now I will agree that you might have lost the start, but in no way did you lose the run. All you need is a few devoted members, who are really skilled in moding, in order to create tutorials and good maps. For example that Wc3-D3 map was so popular that it brought attention towards THW. Yes, other comunities started already, but do they have the Giants?
Back when wc3 was popular, the Giants were on THW and Wc3c.
Your fortune, is that the SC2 scene starts 3 times. First time with WoL, second time with HotS, third time with LoV. So windows of opportunities exist. You guys can make a cool SC2 map, it doesn't even need to be complete, it can be just a preview, and than send it over to HuskyStarcraft to present it. Husky might just do this because this site is TheHiveWorkshop, who made a name for themselves.
But here is the thing. The real concern is what the capable individuals want, and what the rest want.
Because for example, if all this is just the capable individuals not wanting to make an effort, not wanting to seriously grow THW beyond Wc3, but everyone else in the community push the matter of "Lets do SC2", and than the capable individuals say "well just because you guys want it, we will do it", than it will just result a half arsed deal where this site didn't fulfill it's goals in growing out of Wc3, so it would be just wasted work. So what I am saying is, people who are demanding a more aggressive and serious change towards SC2 need to realize, that they need to contribute with more than just words, than just pushing from the back and giving driving lessons from the back seat.
And you don't need to force the current community to make changes. You just need to attract new people, up and coming talented moders to THW, and than naturally, THW has the chance to grow with SC2 just like it had with Wc3.
And at the same time, you need proper leadership who want to make these changes, who want to do them, who want to work for them. So I think either Ralle needs to personally get on top of things, or make some kind of a council.
And I don't know all the moderator drama, and I don't know you all /that/ good, but really if you are going to do this, you need DSG. He is so good at what he is doing, and I think he proven his loyalties. And that he is more than capable to contribute to THW and not create drama.
At one point on this forum, it was discussed that THW is split into two types of groups. The actual moders who do stuff, and the social people who are fans of this game (like me). On this note I want to ad, that I myself, I like League of Legends. And when I want to spend time on League of Legends content, I could spend it on the Riot Forums. But I don't do that, because Riot Forums are slow and bunch of trolls there anyway. So instead I spend it on reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends. Because the LOL community there is much better. Now to ad this phenomenon to THW, it means that I myself, as someone who likes Wc3, I chose to spend time on THW because of a better quality community, than on Blizzard forums. And I'm saying that THW has this going for it, and that it's a really important part for any community which wants to expand. And the thing is, these two groups are kind of dependent of one another. If the modders disappear from THW, so will the social guys, and the other way around. That's why Wc3c fell early and THW has not yet.
So moving forward I feel that some people really want THW into SC2, they see the potential of THW of being so much more than it is, and that the leadership are taking things at a slow pace. I feel that this slow pace will kill the entire process. That with this slow pace, you will miss the LOV launch. And than there is a third group of people who would want to see this happening, but don't actually get involved either because they don't know how, or they are not sure if it's worth it or not, or they just stick to providing "backseat driving suggestions" (Kinda like me, except I don't mod).
So I feel like, this entire conflict in which one voice is eImtor, and the second is Ralle, mostly translates into what do the capable members want? Do they want to get serious into the whole SC2 business, or do they want to make this transition half-arsed.
