SC2 Hive League!

[Deolrin]

What do you mean, past Sunday? The date for the first matches is on next Sunday.

 

[Ash]

We have until sunday for four more matches to get sorted. You should be starting to organise next week's matches now. ^^

 

[MiniMage]

Deolrin won with 2-0. I have no idea what you were expecting ash. Teaming me, a bronze player against Deolrin, a gold player. We played two games which he swiftly won.

Then a third just for fun, but Deolrin doesn't know the concept of fun and raped with nukes. So well, there you go.
Match me with similar level of rank or I'll drop out. I'm fine with a fun game. But this was just terrible.

 

[Deolrin]

I won against MiniMage, 2-0.

EDIT: Did not see the above message.
I'm sorry that you feel nuclear holocausts are not amusing.
Perhaps this will cheer you up?

 

[Avex]

If I recall correctly, many leagues and tournaments match people with awkward leagues to prevent awkward finals.

Think of it this way:

You have 8 players, a total of 3 bronze, 3 gold, 2 silver. This distribution allows for the better players to last longer in the tournament, leading to a like gold vs gold finals. The lower skilled players get knocked out immediately, leading to more gold vs gold games later on, likely reaching a gold vs gold final.


bronze
gold

bronze
gold

silver
gold

bronze
silver


What would happen if it were distributed against equal skill:

gold
gold

gold
silver

silver
bronze

bronze
bronze

One gold gets knocked out immediately garaunteed, the silver likely loses to the gold, meaning it's another gold vs gold, so by the finals you have a gold vs silver (or even gold vs bronze). Which is really silly. In the spread out distribution, you're more likely to get better games as the tournament grows longer, instead of the whole thing being a landslide.

 

[MiniMage]

Oh wow, what fun. For the game with TheBronze, a gold player. I forfeit.

So, wait, I get three battles against bronze players. For anyone who is not bronze. I forfeit.
I acknowledge I am not going to win the games against silver or gold, because I suck.

After being so brutually raped by Deolrin, I'm not really in the mood for more of that wave.

 

[Avex]

Oh wow, what fun. For the game with TheBronze, a gold player. I forfeit.

If you're looking to improve at the game, you should aim to find any way of practice possible, where playing against better players will allow you to discover your faults in comparison to their play. The difference between bronze and gold players is literally their sense of macro, nothing else. A bronze could beat a gold by never taking gas and massing their tier 1 unit in an efficient and timely manner.

 

[MiniMage]

If you're looking to improve at the game, you should aim to find any way of practice possible, where playing against better players will allow you to discover your faults in comparison to their play. The difference between bronze and gold players is literally their sense of macro, nothing else. A bronze could beat a gold by never taking gas and massing their tier 1 unit in an efficient and timely manner.

I'm not looking to improve. I'm looking to have fun. This is not fun.

Basically, in an attempt to pad out the battle. You'll present matches that the bronze will not win. Ending with a final toll of 3 gold and 1 silver.
Which then rounds off with 1 gold vs either silver or gold. Whichever are more likely, I don't really care.

I'm not really in the mood to be gunfodder to prolong a fight. I drop out from this thing. I'll play the games with the bronze in my own time.
If there's no chance of victory, then this fight loses it's meaning and its entertainment value.

 

[Shar Dundred]

I'm not looking to improve. I'm looking to have fun. This is not fun.

Basically, in an attempt to pad out the battle. You'll present matches that the bronze will not win. Ending with a final toll of 3 gold and 1 silver.
Which then rounds off with 1 gold vs either silver or gold. Whichever are more likely, I don't really care.

I'm not really in the mood to be gunfodder to prolong a fight. I drop out from this thing. I'll play the games with the bronze in my own time.
If there's no chance of victory, then this fight loses it's meaning and its entertainment value.

You know, he's got a point here.

This was supposed to be just for fun, but looking at the ranks of several participants makes me doubt that those who aren't that active in SC2 will have any fun.

I'm not really fond of facing people from platinum/gold rank.

 

[knight26]

Hey Minimage, I'll play a match with you tomorrow to cheer you up! :3

 

[Ash]

Oh come on MiniMage, I didn't deliberately place you up for a fall.

Let me be clear: everyone that signed up will play everyone. There is no strategic placement of people so that some are more likely to succeed than others, just a way to have people form a league and have fun playing. You can easily see this if you take a look at yohr fixtures. Try not to worry so much about that.

Knight26 is fucking awesome, for jumpig in, too.

 

[knight26]

Hey Ash next match set me up versus him, I mean I got a little practice I think I can also take you now Ash >

 

[SA Dashie]

I won against Heinvers 2-0
Was fun.

 

[Ash]

Again, just to reiterate: all of your matches are already set up for each week, and can be viewed under the fixtures sheet. Everyone plays everyone, don't panic. Of course some weeks will be more challenging than others, but I'd like to think we've got passed our teething problems now. ^^

 

[knight26]

OMG now I see that sheet, I'm up against Deolrin. Well there goes my optimism :')
Anyway can't wait for my match against Heinvers and Tomoraider >

 

[Heinvers]

I won against Heinvers 2-0
Was fun.

I be gunning flying fortresses using only SCV powar ;P

 

[SA Dashie]

I be gunning flying fortresses using only SCV powar ;P

and I counter with photon cannons and phoenix to force you to land
(dear god that fortress was scary)

 

[Shar Dundred]

Anyway can't wait for my match against Heinvers and Tomoraider >

Same. >

 

[kellym0]

my email is [email protected]

perhaps others should give their emails as well so the friend joining is more smooth.

 

[Ash]

I think Kelly makes a good suggestion. It seems like the friendcode thing isn't working too great for a lot of us. If you would like, we could add our emails to the spreadsheet (it's private) and it should make adding people much smoother.

 

[kellym0]

the friend code doesn't seem to work very much at all actually, not sure why.

but the email seems flawless.

 

[Avex]

Something that confuses alot of people is this:

There's 3 ways to add people.

1. Battle.net RealID Email (____@___.__)
2. Battle.net RealID BattleTag (Name#4 numbers or so)
3. SC2 Friend ID (Name.###)

Many get 2 and 3 mixed up because of the # or .

 

[Ash]

Just a few updates:

• I've added a column for RealID's into the spreadsheet. If you would like your RealID/Battletag adding, please PM it to me - I recommend you do this to make playing games smoother!
• The standings are fully updated for all the matches so far.
• It looks like all the games from this week are going to be played.

Something that confuses alot of people is this:

There's 3 ways to add people.

1. Battle.net RealID Email (____@___.__)
2. Battle.net RealID BattleTag (Name#4 numbers or so)
3. SC2 Friend ID (Name.###)

Many get 2 and 3 mixed up because of the # or .

I actually didn't know you could add people via #2, I thought only 1 and 3 existed. Thanks for the heads up - it should make running our matches easier.

 

[TheBronze]

Fun games, looking forward to next week, it's on minimage!

 

[Avex]

Since it doesn't seem known, I made a guide to find each:

Method 1, your RealID email;

This is just the email you log in with, it will display your real name (or whatever you put for your real name) if this method is used.

Method 2, your Battle.Tag;

You can find this by logging onto Battle.Net, going to "My Account" and looking at the left of the page, it can be found under your real name, above your country of residence.

After obtaining someone's Battle.Tag, you can add them here:

The format is Name, number sign, then the number, for example, my battle.tag could be: JohnBrown#1234

The last option is to use Character Codes, which can be found by the same method, but clicking Character Friend instead of Real ID. Your character code can be found on this page.

The format is your ingame username (for example, mine is Avex), and then the code (where mine is 110)

So mine would be Avex.110

 

[kellym0]

never realized their was a number sign or a period required, that explains alot.

 

[Ash]

I've added Avex's tutorials to the OP. Again, make sure you send your throbbing thank you missiles his way.

 

[kellym0]

2-0 for me as the winner vrs GioV

 

[Ash]

Nicely done! GioV told me he was planning on "cheesing the shit out of you", so I'm glad you put that scrublord in his place...

 

[Avex]

Forgot to mention, both forms of RealID will make it so you can contact eachother cross-game. So if you use battletag or email, you'll see who's playing passionstone or WoW when they should be playing your league match

Just incase people want privacy.

 

[Deolrin]

I won 2-0 against knight26. Good games!

 

[knight26]

I got MiniMage'd 0-2 by Deolrin! Good games though, I'm really into it now!
Beware of his nukes. No seriously, stop him from obtaining nukes.

 

[SA Dashie]

I won't be able to play any matches of Sc2 due to no internet access at home till the 24th.
Will this cause any issues?

 

[Ash]

So long as you arrange the matches you're missing to be played as soon as you can, absolutely not. Just make your opponents aware. Enjoy being off the grid!

 

[Ash]

My internet installation was cancelled, so Powlett and I are still without interbutts at home >_<; Additionally, Voegnu's on holiday for 2 weeks. Gawd daymn.

How's everyone else's matches going? Nat's still up for casting a few games, does anyone fancy that?

 

[Shar Dundred]

My internet installation was cancelled, so Powlett and I are still without interbutts at home >_<; Additionally, Voegnu's on holiday for 2 weeks. Gawd daymn.

Are we still able to play these days?

How's everyone else's matches going? Nat's still up for casting a few games, does anyone fancy that?

I still don't really fancy that.

 

[Ash]

I'm going to see if I can use my neighbour's wifi, so give me until tonight to work this out and then I'll let you know from there.

I see three solutions:

1) (ideal) we can use the neighbour's wifi, solving the problem.
2) we treat the lack of internet as a holiday for Powlett and myself until the 28th
3) as we have a few participants out of touch (holidays, no access to internet) we put the league on hiatus until the end of the month.

I would rather not do number 3, but it is there and a possibility. How do you all feel?

 

[Deolrin]

I say let's just continue playing for now. Best if you hand out the map lists for the upcoming weeks already. Unavailable folks will catch up later.

 

[knight26]

Unavailable folks will catch up later.

^ Exactly my thoughts.

 

[Ash]

Please make sure you've checked the fixture sheet for your matches! I'm having a little more trouble than I expected, so the PMs will be a day late this week. Don't wait for me, get organising your stuff already! ^^

If anyone could take charge of PMing people today with their opponent though, just as an added extra, that would be awesome...

 

[Shar Dundred]

If anyone could take charge of PMing people today with their opponent though, just as an added extra, that would be awesome...

I can do that in a few hours. Gonna use your PM as template if that's okay.

Any way for you to think of maps to play? Else I'll skip that part.

 

[Ash]

Generally speaking, I've just been choosing a HotS season map pool, and feeding the maps through a random selector. Be my guest!

 

[Avex]

I assumed you did a veto system. If it's a BO3 then each player should get 2 vetoes. Higher seeded player normally gets the first veto in tourneys.

 

[Ash]

Avex, that's outlined very clearly in the rules of the first post. Shar was talking about which maps are used to generate the pool that players then veto.

 

[Shar Dundred]

PMs have been sent. Just couldn't find a way to contact BYE due to a lack of Hive account.

 

[Ash]

Hahaha, I hope that's sarcasm...

BYE means there's no match for the other person this week, as in a bye week. ^^

 

[Shar Dundred]

Hahaha, I hope that's sarcasm...

BYE means there's no match for the other person this week, as in a bye week. ^^

 

[Avex]

Avex, that's outlined very clearly in the rules of the first post. Shar was talking about which maps are used to generate the pool that players then veto.

Oops, been a while since I read the OP

 

[kellym0]

2-0 for me against minimage

 

[Deolrin]

Valtar hasn't been online in quite some time. Does anyone know how else might he be contacted?