Sanctuary of Champion v0.99

[Moderator]

19:54, 7th Sep 2011
Vengeancekael: Status: Approved
Update: Re-moderating with reviews:
Orcnet's review:

Sanctuary of Champions (v0.97b)

Rating System:

Rating	Number	Percent	Letter
	5/5	91-100	A

Rating	Number	Percent	Letter
	4/5	81-90%	B

Rating	Number	Percent	Letter
	3/5	75-80%	C

Rating	Number	Percent	Letter
	2/5	70-74%	D

Rating	Number	Percent	Letter
	1/5	50-69%	F

Overview:

Gameplay

As I start matching up with people in the game, I realize this hero arena was actually straight on in the fight, likewise with other hero arenas were their are creep camps and 1v1 hero time event, this map is only to show face to face action rather than earning and pawning with strategies.

I also notice the item shops were quite helpful and monotone at the same time, maybe because it can help beginners start of with basic provisions instead of the early item builds like some maps would differ. other than that, the round by round lasting times would open these shops and get a better item to work on.

Terrain

As I've expected "Sanctuary" means "consecrated spot". the terrain features like a stage instead of a monastery or such mansion wonders that would attract players to urge on the fight. but since the map's gameplay was on the spotlight for firstblood. I would decide myself that the terrain is okay or great.

the outside sightings of it looks more a small forest if the host would manage to set this in visible, I wonder if that can also fill in the battlefield and not the design of the map.

Managing

With just a quick check-up of the game, I find this map good to play, since the game was fast or time-eating entertainment at a registered dialog. it also provide the player their battle status, text message hints, and round up item shops that won't overpower beginners in their start of play.

players don't need to doubt anymore for resources, since the game management gives players gold every end of the round so they won't suffer resource harassment loss in some other maps. also this game only use gold as resources instead of lumber and recipe systems.

Total Score:

Rating	Number	Percent	Letter
	10/15	83%	B

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Kael's review:

Date: 2011/Oct/07 20:43:52 Vengeancekael: VM // PM: Status: Approved Rating: 3/5 Acceptable Rep Received: 0

Reasons: Other: If you have any complaints or questions directed towards a moderator, make a thread here: Map Resource Moderation If you think the moderator's judging is unfair or you have overall complaints, make a thread here: Admin Contact Please read the rules thoroughly: Rules Comment: Review: Gameplay: The 4 game modes are really neat, nothing original, but what you've done with this map is combine 4 different game types into one, making it really fun and not repetitive. There are also 2 settings, casual and competitive allowing for more options. There's a nice variety of heroes, however their spells aren't really custom and not that flashy or anything, the Lightning Warlock only has one custom spell and purge has never been a cool and really good feeling spell. Originality-wise it really isn't anything special, but the map can still be fun. The different item shops are also a neat idea, you're not giving the player too many items to buy right at the start, so anyone knows what to buy at the start. Terrain: It looks like an arena, like it should, although the outside area is kinda random, maybe put a city around it with people watching you. You can't really judge the terrain well, but it does the job and is polished. Other: Would be nice if the hotkeys were bound to QWER. Overall: A really well executed arena map, very polished and a lot of fun to play, but originality-wise and terrain-wise not so special.

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Kael's rating+Orcnet's rating: (3+4)/2: 3.5 -> 4.0

 

[RehSinP]

Seems nice add more stuff though. I'll check your triggering later XD 4/5

 

[Raging Ent]

The published version is Protected

However, if, for moderation or learning/complaining you guys want to see the triggers, download the version attached to this post!

 

[RehSinP]

Alright

 

[Bugz]

I should mention it's protected..
If you guys want to take a look at triggering I can upload a unprotected version.

Paste it, since you cant upload it twice

 

[Raging Ent]

Unprotected version is added in my first reply!

 

[Bugz]

Support ai?

 

[Raging Ent]

Support ai?

Not one of my main concerns, I make this map for players, not for AI.

Sorry if this sounds too cruel, and if someone comes along that wants to make a AI version of my map I will gladly give him unprotected versions, but for now...

 

[Bugz]

It's just because i cant test it if its not able to get played alone :s

 

[Raging Ent]

It's just because i cant test it if its not able to get played alone :s

You could ask me to host it on battle.net

 

[Bugz]

I think i be capable to test it.

 

[Raging Ent]

I think i be capable to test it.

Uhm, okay!

 

[Raging Ent]

A new version is out!

And feel free to comment on the new presentation below!

 

[switchtotems]

the "unprotected" version you atached is not an unprotected version ... it just crash when trying to open ... alot of guys like you here wich says unprotected version check triggers to make download and bam bam a big dick just another protected version...

 

[Raging Ent]

the "unprotected" version you atached is not an unprotected version ... it just crash when trying to open ... alot of guys like you here wich says unprotected version check triggers to make download and bam bam a big dick just another protected version...

Got issues? The unprotected version is outdated anyway.. play the real deal!

 

[Death_lcnight]

No title

Really nice map , but it still needs some balance though
and needs some int items as well

 

[Vengeancekael]

Thread cleaned.
Map approved.

 

[Orcnet]

Sanctuary of Champions (v0.97b)

Rating System:

Rating	Number	Percent	Letter
	5/5	91-100	A

Rating	Number	Percent	Letter
	4/5	81-90%	B

Rating	Number	Percent	Letter
	3/5	75-80%	C

Rating	Number	Percent	Letter
	2/5	70-74%	D

Rating	Number	Percent	Letter
	1/5	50-69%	F

Overview:

Gameplay

As I start matching up with people in the game, I realize this hero arena was actually straight on in the fight, likewise with other hero arenas were their are creep camps and 1v1 hero time event, this map is only to show face to face action rather than earning and pawning with strategies.

I also notice the item shops were quite helpful and monotone at the same time, maybe because it can help beginners start of with basic provisions instead of the early item builds like some maps would differ. other than that, the round by round lasting times would open these shops and get a better item to work on.

Terrain

As I've expected "Sanctuary" means "consecrated spot". the terrain features like a stage instead of a monastery or such mansion wonders that would attract players to urge on the fight. but since the map's gameplay was on the spotlight for firstblood. I would decide myself that the terrain is okay or great.

the outside sightings of it looks more a small forest if the host would manage to set this in visible, I wonder if that can also fill in the battlefield and not the design of the map.

Managing

With just a quick check-up of the game, I find this map good to play, since the game was fast or time-eating entertainment at a registered dialog. it also provide the player their battle status, text message hints, and round up item shops that won't overpower beginners in their start of play.

players don't need to doubt anymore for resources, since the game management gives players gold every end of the round so they won't suffer resource harassment loss in some other maps. also this game only use gold as resources instead of lumber and recipe systems.

Total Score:

Rating	Number	Percent	Letter
	10/15	83%	B

 

[kleinerhauck]

1st impression after a short game

I only got to play one round (which was 'respawn' mode) before the other 3 players left.

For 2 players the altar had too much life and the respawn time was too short..
Thus it took ages to lower the hit points of the enemy altar -> people left.
It might be better with 4 players though, idk.

The terrain is unusually nice for a hero arena, I really enjoyed it.

The balancing amongst the chosen heroes was also good.

Going to play again now

//Edit: Played it again (3v3)
It was a lot of fun this time, the game modes are really good.
'Respawn' mode is better later in the game when the heroes have more damage, so I suggest u adjust the hit points of the altar to 1) the number of players and 2) the hero level.

Then I found a small bug: The item 'Fefala's Spellblade' costs 2800, which is the total costs and not the recipe cost.

And probably some balancing issues (but I'm not sure, maybe the other team's players just sucked):
The healing wave hero (forgot the name) seems to be a little OP due to his damage returning shield. Especially on 'assassinate' mode it was a very powerful spell.
But on the other hand the players of the other team just kept attacking the buffed hero so it was kind of their fault..

And then one of them left and there didn't seem to be any kind of balance for that so they had no chance for the rest of the game.

Anyway I had my fun. 4/5 for now.


PS: Some screenshots in the presentation would be nice. (Maybe more people DL then)

 

[Raging Ent]

1st impression after a short game

I only got to play one round (which was 'respawn' mode) before the other 3 players left.

For 2 players the altar had too much life and the respawn time was too short..
Thus it took ages to lower the hit points of the enemy altar -> people left.
It might be better with 4 players though, idk.

The terrain is unusually nice for a hero arena, I really enjoyed it.

The balancing amongst the chosen heroes was also good.

Going to play again now

//Edit: Played it again (3v3)
It was a lot of fun this time, the game modes are really good.
'Respawn' mode is better later in the game when the heroes have more damage, so I suggest u adjust the hit points of the altar to 1) the number of players and 2) the hero level.

Then I found a small bug: The item 'Fefala's Spellblade' costs 2800, which is the total costs and not the recipe cost.

And probably some balancing issues (but I'm not sure, maybe the other team's players just sucked):
The healing wave hero (forgot the name) seems to be a little OP due to his damage returning shield. Especially on 'assassinate' mode it was a very powerful spell.
But on the other hand the players of the other team just kept attacking the buffed hero so it was kind of their fault..

And then one of them left and there didn't seem to be any kind of balance for that so they had no chance for the rest of the game.

Anyway I had my fun. 4/5 for now.


PS: Some screenshots in the presentation would be nice. (Maybe more people DL then)

I have to say 'thank you' for reviewing my project, it's hard to get anything started these days, but your comment lifted my spirit!

Okay on to the actual review:
1) The Altar's hp has been a discussion subject for some time and it will be adjusted properly before version 1.00 comes out, right now I'm just adding Champions and Items and making sure everything is bug free.

2) Your tooltip error was noted and I will take care of it!

3) Balancing champions at this stage is hard because, like you said, players are new. They see Troll Priest's shield and don't quite get what it does yet, actual gameplay and balance will form when more people play it on a regular base, any major imbalances are removed as soon as I find them though

4) Players of the team that has a leaver will get "200+(Champion Level x 25)" gold to compensate, other than that they are doomed. Not a big fan of DotA's switch function since it usually ruins the game more than balances it. Just make sure you have no leavers!

5) I am going to make a video and screenshots once I do hit version 1.00, I don't like advertising with media that can still be changed before version 1.00.
For instance, I can make a video where a Champions uses War Stomp, then decide to replace War Stomp with Thunder Clap before version 1.00, causing the video to give a wrong impression

Thanks for reviewing my project, and I surely hope you will keep on playing and enjoying it!

 

[Vengeancekael]

Review:

Gameplay:

The 4 game modes are really neat, nothing original, but what you've done with this map is combine 4 different game types into one, making it really fun and not repetitive.
There are also 2 settings, casual and competitive allowing for more options.
There's a nice variety of heroes, however their spells aren't really custom and not that flashy or anything, the Lightning Warlock only has one custom spell and purge has never been a cool and really good feeling spell.
Originality-wise it really isn't anything special, but the map can still be fun.
The different item shops are also a neat idea, you're not giving the player too many items to buy right at the start, so anyone knows what to buy at the start.

Terrain:

It looks like an arena, like it should, although the outside area is kinda random, maybe put a city around it with people watching you.
You can't really judge the terrain well, but it does the job and is polished.

Other:

Would be nice if the hotkeys were bound to QWER.

Overall:

A really well executed arena map, very polished and a lot of fun to play, but originality-wise and terrain-wise not so special.

Rating: 3/5

 

[Rufus]

Wow this was one of the best ideas i have seen! Downloading it right now!

 

[Raging Ent]

Just a question, is anyone waiting for a next release at all?

 

[Raging Ent]

Gold, gold, gold!
With some testing, and a huge break behind us, we concluded that gaining money in Sanctuary of Champions isn't the easiest of tasks, so we thought up some changes that will be added in our, delayed, version 1.00!

Last Man Standing
Dying is never a good feeling, being the last one on your team is even worse. Last Man Standing is a status gained by
the last alive player on your team, and it makes all the kills you make worth 200% of the initial worth, and upon
being killed your death will only be worth 50%. We hope that this new system will create a scene where the last player
alive will struggle 'till death.

Changes to First Blood!
With the new Last Man Standing system, we decided to change the First Blood gold bonus from a solid amount to 150%
of what the hero would be worth initially. This will lower the amount on the first rounds, but with the new system
First Blood! will be possible every round.

Furthermore, if you want to keep in touch with our development, we created a twitter account just for you! Find us at www.twitter.com/SoCDevTeam

I hope you guys are as excited about the upcoming features as we are!

 

[Alain.Mark]

I really enjoy simple and fun maps like this. I like the terrain it's simple but aesthetically ok, unlike maps that boasts terrain so much, that terrain is the only important thing in it (therefore it becomes an overkill XD). This 5/5 for an epic simplicity, and oh i also like the hero synergy. :3

edit: the terrain needs to be altered a little for additional juking chances