Rotating an attachment point

[Solu9]

Hey folks.

I have fizzled around with some of the common tools like War3ModelEditor, VertexModifier, AnimTransfer etc. and most of the time I got the results I wanted. Simple edits since I'm new to this.

There is a thing I can't seem to fathom though. How do I rotate an attachment point (in this case "Hand Left Ref")? For fun I wanted to make a model wield his left weapon backwards.

My initial thought was edit the "Hand Left Red" node itself, by simply using the "rotation" in War3ModelEditor.

It says:
0: { 0, 0, 0, 1 }

I figured I should just change the "1" to "-1" (remember I'm new to this). That didn't work. So after searching in vain I decided to finally ask here.

Am I close or far far away from doing it right? What do I need to do?

 

[General Frank]

The easiest way to do this is by using Oinkerwinkles EulerToQuat tool. It may be found here but I am going to attach this here in case.

The documentation is pretty good too.

 

[Solu9]

The easiest way to do this is by using Oinkerwinkles EulerToQuat tool. It may be found here but I am going to attach this here in case.

The documentation is pretty good too.

Thanks Frankster. At first glance it seemed pretty straight forward. However when I imported the edited model it held the weapons exactly as before.

Here is a picture of the editing stages. Where do I go wrong?

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[General Frank]

Those pivot points have nothing to do with that.
Pivot points are just the coordinates where the attachment point is located.

In the Right Column you need to enter the angles of rotation. You would have known that if you read the it in the help menu.

Furthermore you need to specify in which animation the attachment point is rotated.
The animation is shown in frames.
The '0: {[...]}' part

If it is too hard for you, post the model here and I will simply to it for you

 

[Solu9]

Hehe no no, I need to learn this for myself. I actually quickly glanced for the instructions, but as I missed the little "help" I just thought: "Pfft, the instructions are probably in a missing readme file"...

So I need to do the edit for every animation? Oh noes.

 

[General Frank]

Read the instructions. Seriously. Do it.

Yeah, you need to make this for all animations or you could simply use a global animation with the same start and end frame.

 

[Solu9]

... so all I needed to do instead of: 0: { 0, 0, 0, 1 }, was: 333: { 0, 0, 1, 0 }, -.-

Now. I used the stand animation in this example which begins at 333. The same animation ends at 1533 but I should just ignore that?

And lastly. The global sequences. If I have two globals should it be like this:
1933: { 0, 0, 1, 0 }
4433: { 0, 0, 1, 0 } ?

 

[General Frank]

Yes for the part with the quaterions.

No to the part with the global animations.
If your global animation is 1933 frames long just make it:

0: { 0, 0, 1, 0 }
1933: { 0, 0, 1, 0 }

Oh, btw, which model are you trying to edit?

 

[Solu9]

Hmm I can't seem to make the globals works. Does it matter that there are two gobals in the model?

Oh it's just a simple Satyr model which I have added some new animations to. I needed it for a map of mine. So instead of requesting someone to do the model I decided to try myself

 

[General Frank]

You need specify the correct global animations ID in the rotation window.

 

[Solu9]

Alriiiigt! It works! Haha awesome.

Thanks for the help

 

[General Frank]

Always a pleasure.