Resurrecting Heroes

[Spectre4802]

As an RPG is populated almost entirely by heroes, and the fact that it's inevitable that one of those heroes will die, is it possible to resurrect heroes as you would resurrect a unit?

 

[Skudgemuffin]

I don't recall ever "resurrecting" a regular unit, but is this what you mean?

• Hero - Instantly revive Paladin 0000 <gen> at (Center of (Playable map area)), Show revival graphics

 

[Spectre4802]

The spell "Ressurection" for the Paladin in W3 lets you revive 6 nearby friendly corpses. Thats what i mean by 'Resurrecting'. I hope that made it a bit more clearer.

But you have given me an interesting idea...

 

[hoplitespear]

Check the ability properties of ressurection. There should be a line:

Stats - Targets Allowed
I think if u add hero there it should work, and just put the number of corpses raised to 1 and this way you should be able to ressurect a hero.

 

[Spectre4802]

Doesn't work.

I think its impossible, because heroes don't leave a corpse.

 

[ap0calypse]

Doesn't work.

I think its impossible, because heroes don't leave a corpse.

What if you change the "Combat - Death Type"?

That defines the properties the unit/building/hero's corpse has after it is killed. Determines whether it can be raised by abilities such as "Raise Skeleton" or "Animated Dead", and also whether it experiences natural decay or not.

Might be worth checking out ^^
(set it to "can raise, can decay" or something)

 

[Dr Super Good]

Um.... Heroes do have corpses. When a hero dies, its body is hidden and moved to the edge of the map I rememeber reading and seeing. Thus why you should always remove heroes that will never be resurrected again.

Try moving the hero back to where it died and unhiding it.

 

[mikeaadams]

Just give all the heroes reincarnation with like a 1 second cooldown so you never have to wait if they die.

 

[Just_Spectating]

Giving the heroes reincarnation means that they never really die. so any Death Running triggers on the heroes would not work.

 

[jadegolem]

Revive them Via Trigger

 

[ap0calypse]

Revive them Via Trigger

If Dr. Super Good is right (and I think he is), this won't work, since the ressurection-spell needs to be in a certain area (let's say 600), but the body of the heroes are moved to the edge of the map (and thus probably no within 600AoE of the caster).

 

[manstie]

Maybe you could make a dummy spell, that when you "use" it, it opens up a menu which u can click on the name of a player to revive. Then do the rest trigger.

 

[Spectre4802]

All brilliant ideas!

Rep shower!

 

[Spectre4802]

What if you change the "Combat - Death Type"?

That defines the properties the unit/building/hero's corpse has after it is killed. Determines whether it can be raised by abilities such as "Raise Skeleton" or "Animated Dead", and also whether it experiences natural decay or not.

Might be worth checking out ^^
(set it to "can raise, can decay" or something)

Unfortunatly, this doesn't work. The resurrection spell couldn't seem to find any corpses.

 

[ap0calypse]

Unfortunatly, this doesn't work. The resurrection spell couldn't seem to find any corpses.

What if you combine that with Dr Super Good's idea?
Move the corpse of the hero to the position of the dying unit (I suggest to wait a moment before doing that).

(It appears that the corpse of the hero is moved to the edge of the map)

 

[Spectre4802]

Would this be the right trigger?

• Action - Unit - Create a (Unit-type of (Triggering unit)) corpse for Player 1 (Red) at (Position of (Triggering unit))

 

[ap0calypse]

Not really, since the hero has a corpse, it has just been moved.
Try this:

• Set TempLoc = (Position of (Triggering unit))
• Wait X.XX seconds
• Unit - Move (Triggering unit) instantly to TempLoc
• Custom script: call RemoveLocation(udg_TempLoc)

The wait has to be a little bit more than the duration of his death-animation, since he is moved after that (I think)
Be sure to set the Hero's death type to "Can Raise, Does Decay".

If this doesn't work, you can try yours, but you have to keep this in mind:
- You have created a new hero then, so it will be completely resetted
- The other hero needs to be removed

(and if it doesn't work, Dr. Super Good was wrong :O - that's something you don't see a lot ^^)

 

[jadegolem]

• Events
  • Unit - A unit dies
• Conditions
  • Borlean - Dying unit is a (Hero) equal to true
• Actions
  • Hero - Revive (Dying Unit) at (Position of (Dying Unit))

 

[ap0calypse]

• Events
  • Unit - A unit dies
• Conditions
  • Borlean - Dying unit is a (Hero) equal to true
• Actions
  • Hero - Revive (Dying Unit) at (Position of (Dying Unit))

He wants to revive them with a spell (ressurection), your trigger is just a hero-revive system (which leaks by the way, use variables to remove the leak).

You can create the entire spell with triggers, but if there is an easier solution...

 

[Spectre4802]

Dr Super Good said

Um.... Heroes do have corpses. When a hero dies, its body is hidden and moved to the edge of the map I rememeber reading and seeing. Thus why you should always remove heroes that will never be resurrected again.

Try moving the hero back to where it died and unhiding it.

Im trying to figure out how to go about doing this in the Trigger Editor.

 

[jadegolem]

theres an action in units called Move Unit

 

[ap0calypse]

theres an action in units called Move Unit

Did you read the previous posts, or do you only read the first post and then reply?

• Set TempLoc = (Position of (Triggering unit))
• Wait X.XX seconds
• Unit - Move (Triggering unit) instantly to TempLoc
• Custom script: call RemoveLocation(udg_TempLoc)

 

[Cov3r70ps]

Did you read the previous posts, or do you only read the first post and then reply?

To be fair, I think he might be referring to how to unhide the unit.

• Unit - Unhide (Triggering unit)

 

[ALiEN95]

Doesn't work.

I think its impossible, because heroes don't leave a corpse.

Everything is possible in we ..You can make corpse
lets say you have a hero called "Rambo"
than you make unit (with no attack and invulnerable) and you can call him "Rambo´s corpse"
He must not have a model file ,click on model file holding shift+enter and clear everything accept ".mdl"
now unit "Rambo´s corpse will be invisible and unable to be selected
Make that unit flying

There is an ability called "Spawn Hydra" but u make it spawn unit type "Rambo´s corpse" and give that ability to "Rambo"

• Untitled Trigger 008
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Dies
  • Conditions
    • (Unit-type of (Dying unit)) Equal to Rambo´s Corpse
  • Actions
    • Set POSITION = (Position of (Dying unit))
    • Hero - Instantly revive (Random unit from (Units owned by (Owner of (Dying unit)) of type Small Rambo)) at POSITION, Hide revival graphics
    • Custom script: call RemoveLocation(udg_POSITION)

• duble hero
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Finishes casting an ability
  • Conditions
    • (Ability being cast) Equal to YOUR ABILITY
  • Actions
    • Set FIXLAGS = (Position of (Casting unit))
    • Set UNITGROUP = (Units within 512.00 of FIXLAGS matching (((Matching unit) is A flying unit) Equal to True))
    • Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units in UNITGROUP) and do (Actions)
      • Loop - Actions
        • Unit - Kill (Picked unit)
    • Custom script: call RemoveLocation(udg_FIXLAGS)
    • Custom script: call DestroyGroup(udg_UNITGROUP)

 

[Toilet Maker]

Here, try this system.

(Use the manual attack to kill the mountain king)

WARNING: I do not know if it leaks, I am not good with leaks so be careful. If it does leak it shouldn't be too hard to fix.

Good Luck with your map and all.

(I did throw this together in a couple of mins while waiting for an answer to my own thread so instead of a wisp use something like a visible shade or tombstone and also remove the movement of this unit)

 

[Spectre4802]

Interesting idea, Toilet Maker.

Interesting indeed.

 

[mikeaadams]

I made an RPG and I used revival stones at certain points in the game and If a unit enters a region near the stone the dying unit will instantly revive at that point.

 

[ALiEN95]

unit begins casting an ability - raise dead heros in range

pick every unit that is a hero and is not alive
-revive picked unit
>if distance between picked unit and casting unit is greather than <1000>
than
kill picked unit

(it revives all heros around 1000 range of casting unit)

if you think this could be a good idea i will solve the hero death massages so they dont appear when you kill a hero with this trigger

 

[Toilet Maker]

Hey ALiEN, sorry to disappoint you but I beat you to it and solved this problem 4-5 months ago 3 posts up I think. But I guess that it's a little different with mine only resurrecting the target hero whereas yours resurrect everyone in 1000 radius.

Also, can't you do the opposite and only conditionally pick heroes within 1000 radius because right now it resurrects every hero then kills them all unless nearby. Also this will waste mana if accidental cast and also need to fix so doesn't revive enemies. Other than that I guess it works

 

[ALiEN95]

Hey ALiEN, sorry to disappoint you but I beat you to it and solved this problem 4-5 months ago 3 posts up I think. But I guess that it's a little different with mine only resurrecting the target hero whereas yours resurrect everyone in 1000 radius.

Also, can't you do the opposite and only conditionally pick heroes within 1000 radius because right now it resurrects every hero then kills them all unless nearby. Also this will waste mana if accidental cast and also need to fix so doesn't revive enemies. Other than that I guess it works

I couldn´t revive heroes around range for some reason,i did some mistake and i didnt see it...

>revive heroes within range

its just needed to pick every hero within (some range) of casting unit and revive picked unit

>revive targeted hero

unit begins casting an ability (ability that needs unit target or point target)

ability being cast equal to revive hero

revive rendom unit from (units within 100 range of target point of ability being cast) matching,matching unit is a hero...



when hero dies just create a wishp to know where it died

or better if it is possible to pause his animation when he dies so that he lies on the ground

 

[adsf123]

Hey ALiEN, sorry to disappoint you but I beat you to it and solved this problem 4-5 months ago 3 posts up I think. But I guess that it's a little different with mine only resurrecting the target hero whereas yours resurrect everyone in 1000 radius.

Also, can't you do the opposite and only conditionally pick heroes within 1000 radius because right now it resurrects every hero then kills them all unless nearby. Also this will waste mana if accidental cast and also need to fix so doesn't revive enemies. Other than that I guess it works

okay i know this is long ago but ive tried your trigger and it works fine but how to i set a cooldown for my skill? when it casts there isnt any cooldown

 

[Visimirsit]

Toilet maker's idea is awesome i would make the wisp looking like a grave and that he couldnt move so when you run around se a dead hero you can ressurect him cool cool plus rep for him

 

[adsf123]

oh btw i found another loophole, the rez spell only can be targetted at the most recent "soul" created and it wont rez any previous dead heroes

 

[Toilet Maker]

Alright, I haven't been on Warcraft 3/Editor or Hive for a while but I'll try to help you anyway.
To set a cooldown go to your Object Editor and find your Resurrection spell and look for a parameter called: "Stats - Cooldown" Just change that to whatever you want. You can also change other things here if you need to such as animation (Special Effect-like things that occur when you use this spell), Mana Cost, Cast Range, Name and Tooltips. If you want more information look for a tutorial on the Object Editor.

oh btw i found another loophole, the rez spell only can be targetted at the most recent "soul" created and it wont rez any previous dead heroes

Now in regards to the above;
I did put this together in about 10 minutes and I intended it for an RPG which I assumed had only 1 hero per player. It will work for the last killed hero of that player. You can change this to only work on your "main" hero (ie. you have a secondary/less important hero in your map) by adding conditions such as:

• (Dying unit) Equal to MAIN_HERO[(Player number of (Owner of (Dying unit)))]

Now if you have 2 "main" heroes for each player it gets a little sticky. I'm not in the mood for making a simple an efficient system at present but I will throw together a crude one for you:

Trigger:

• Dies
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Dies
  • Conditions
    • ((Dying unit) is A Hero) Equal to True
    • ((Owner of (Dying unit)) controller) Equal to User
  • Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Dying unit) Equal to MAIN_HERO1[(Player number of (Owner of (Dying unit)))]
      • Then - Actions
        • Unit - Create 1 Wisp for (Owner of (Dying unit)) at (Position of (Dying unit)) facing Default building facing degrees
        • Set WISP1[(Player number of (Owner of (Dying unit)))] = (Last created unit)
        • Set MAIN_HERO1[(Player number of (Owner of (Dying unit)))] = (Dying unit)
      • Else - Actions
        • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
          • If - Conditions
            • (Dying unit) Equal to MAIN_HERO2[(Player number of (Owner of (Dying unit)))]
          • Then - Actions
            • Unit - Create 1 Wisp for (Owner of (Dying unit)) at (Position of (Dying unit)) facing Default building facing degrees
            • Set WISP2[(Player number of (Owner of (Dying unit)))] = (Last created unit)
            • Set MAIN_HERO2[(Player number of (Owner of (Dying unit)))] = (Dying unit)
          • Else - Actions

• Ressurect
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Begins casting an ability
  • Conditions
    • And - All (Conditions) are true
      • Conditions
        • (Unit-type of (Target unit of ability being cast)) Equal to Wisp
        • (Ability being cast) Equal to RESSERUCT
  • Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Target unit of ability being cast) Equal to WISP1[(Player number of (Owner of (Target unit of ability being cast)))]
      • Then - Actions
        • Hero - Instantly revive MAIN_HERO1[(Player number of (Owner of (Target unit of ability being cast)))] at (Position of (Target unit of ability being cast)), Show revival graphics
      • Else - Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Target unit of ability being cast) Equal to WISP2[(Player number of (Owner of (Target unit of ability being cast)))]
      • Then - Actions
        • Hero - Instantly revive MAIN_HERO2[(Player number of (Owner of (Target unit of ability being cast)))] at (Position of (Target unit of ability being cast)), Show revival graphics
      • Else - Actions
    • Unit - Remove (Target unit of ability being cast) from the game

Hope that helps you. I strongly advise you mess around with triggers and look up tutorials especially on variables and arrays so that you can understand this and do it yourself.

Good Luck!
-TM

 

[adsf123]

hey man thanks for your quick reply, i know about the object editor thing but due to the trigger saying begins casting an ability, the cooldown and mana costs do not take effect, if im not wrong there must be a line to end this trigger and let the spell resume but im not sure what