Requiem of The Gods 1.71

[1)ark_NiTe]

Sounds great man, glad to see you put a lot of work into this one! I'm sure RotG fans will be very pleased.

 

[Duechso]

Ihre Karte ist die funnest Karte herum in diesem ganzen Forum! 5/5!

 

[Duechso]

Pressefreiheit!

 

[mjllonir]

Great map! +Rep

 

[Vengeancekael]

Really cool, but maybe you could put the changelog into hidden tags.^^But for the map +repXD

 

[MortAr]

Omgwtfhaxx discription fix plox!

 

[kekeke]

Nice map I really like it but version 1.61 has a few things you forgot to change.

The thing in the top right hand corner that tells you your scores in team play mode still says version 1.60 when it is version 1.61.

Other than that the map is awesomely good and keep up the good work/updates,
Ke

 

[MortAr]

Did ya implemented an AI into the map?

 

[Steelb_l_ade]

The map has no AI implemented im afraid, it remains purely multiplayer only.

 

[X-OMG-X]

Will downloand test. Looks interesting-

 

[Steelb_l_ade]

I am now actively working on AI for both the teamplay and duelling modes so soon it will indeed be possible to play solo.

AI will also work for taking over leavers in online games, with the ability to toggle teh AI on/off for each team.

 

[Steelb_l_ade]

Being as this is a modding community I thought i'd share some of my development notes for the AI as some of you might find it intresting, so heres what it does in basic terms:

NEW TEAMPLAY ACTIONS:
every 5 seconds

SUMMONS:
gets all summoned units owned by player

if hero is alive and not in boss room or in base
if hero si getting ritual bonuses then attk moves near ritual altar
then summon attck moves to position of hero
if dead, or home, or in boss arena
if summon is in base
then leaves base
if summons is in duel arena
then attk moves to argo region else attk moves to ritual

CHECKS IF HERO IS ALIVE and not in BERSERKER RAGE

CHECKS IF IN BASE
TITAN ORB CHECK
if home and has titan orb drops it.
SHOPPING CHECK
if gold greater than 350 & inventory not full OK
if gold greater than 850 & inventory full + upgrades possible OK

if shopping is OK
SHOPPING REGION CHECK
if so, has a 30% (unless game time under 4 mins 100%) chance to start a shopping cooldown timer expires in 160
(sets ai-shopp ON)
if not in region, moves there.

===(not shopping but still in base)===
HP CHECK
less than 95% means no orders
if over 95% ordered to move out of base

===(not in base)===
CHECKS IF HERO IS IN BOSS ARENA
if so, and order is non-spell then is ordered to attk boss monster
else no orders

HERO INJURY CHECK
if hero life is less than 15%
do nothing (sent to HP CHECK TRIGGER)

ENEMY UNIT CHECK
gets units within hero point if night radius 800 else 1000 (does not get dead,mechanical, titans, units in base, allies)
if bad guys found,
PREFFERED TARGET CHECK
if more than 1 enemy hero in range (not titan) compare hp -current preffered has 20% bonus
if no heroes in range AITARGET =1st unit in targets group
NET CHECK
if target is a hero on 20% or less hp & unit has net & order is attk USE IT.
MERC CHECK
if hp of hero less than 75%, mercs are ok to use, (cooldown), order is attk & has mercs then USE THEM.
ATTCK CHECK
if not using mercs or nets
if order string is non-spell
RITUAL TARGET CHK
if ritual on, this hero is near it, enemy is not issue NO order
else order hero to attk target
if order is a spell issue NO ORDER

ITEM LOOKING (no targets in range)
checks for items in region 750 radius
if inventory has ok slot, or if a powerup, and item si not in a base and order is non-spell then PICK UP ITEM

RITUAL CHECK
if private duell is off, timer is less than 1 min or ritual going & order is standard
RITUAL HP CHK
if ritual hasnt started yet (1min) hero life elss than 50% and not near rit then PASS TO HP CHCKS TRIGGER
RITUAL ENEMY /ALLY CHECK
gets number of enemies in ritual arena with hp above 16% hp & number of allies anbove 15%
if hero is not capped & enemies is 1 or less OR if allies are 1 or more then attk moves to ritual zone.
ASSISTANCE CHECK
(TITANS)
checks if allied heroes are alive
checks for heroes (titans) (Nnot bossmonster) within 600 of ally, both titan *(5%) and ally must have hp over 15%
(HEROES) -OVERRIDES TITANS
checks if allied heroes are alive
checks for heroes (enemy) within 800 of ally, enemy must have hp over 40% *(20%) *(and ally above 15%)

if assitance conditions met, check orde ris non-spell if OK then attk move to location of ally.

WANDER CHECK
if order is non-spell
then patrol to ran point in map

EXECUTE SHOPPING CHECK
if any shopping then execute shopping trigger

(TELEPORTATION, SHOPPING TRIGGER)
if life of hero is 90%+ and ritual is on, or starting (60sec)
CHECK ENEMY/ALLIES
gets number of enemies in ritual arena with hp above 16% hp & number of allies anbove 15%
if alleis outnumber, tele in, or 1 enemy or less on rit AND guy si not capped.
orders teleport in


==================================================================

DUEL MODE ACTIONS:
every 3 seconds:

UPDATES SUMMONS
gets all alive units with summons class not matchign special spell units

if hero is alive orders units to attk-move to his location
if not, orders to patrol in duel arena stairs

HERO ALIVE CHECK
checks if hero is still alive.

Store % HP

SUDDEN DEATH CHECK
if so, orders hero to move to safe zone

ENEMY UNIT CHECK
checks for enemy units within 1100 radius, does not get workers or ancients.

if finds more than 1 enemy hero in range, checks % hp vs % hp of new target (+20%), if new target is weaker, will lock onto it.

if enemy hero in range, targets best with rules above, else gets 1st picked enemy unit.

===================IF VALID ENEMY IN RANGE =================
stores order of hero.

NET CHECK
if attacking and target is hero, and targets life less than 20% and has a net, orders a netting of him.

MERC CHECK
if hero hp less than 75% & is attacking and owns mercs
will use mercs

ATTACK CHECK
if order is equal to a standard order, or NONE
will "attack" target
else NO ORDERS
===============IF VALID ENEMY IN RANGE =================

if no enemies:
if hero is in middle of arena, patrol to spawn zone of enemy players,

==================================================================
DUEL MODE SHOPPING:
every 2 seconds
They go shopping if:
have a space in invent and more than 350 gold
or have full inventory, more than 850, and own an upgradeable item.


if in shopping region and AIShopping=true

PURCHASEABLE CHECK
if have slot in inventory and decide int equates:
if have 0 pur = 90%
if have 1 pur = 50%
if have 2 pur = 25%
if have 3+ = 0%
buys 1 of 15 possible consumables.

PERMINANT vs UPGRADE CHECK
if has no perminants, will always try to buy one.
if does have a perm, between 60% and 40% chance to buy another one.

must have greater than 1000 gold, be able to buy at least 1 type of perm and have a spare inventory slot.

if has armour + artifact will always try and buy a weapon.
if has only artifact will try and buy a weapon or armour with 50% weight.
if only has armour will try and buy a weapon or artifact with 50% weight.

UPGRADE CHECK
must have over 500 gold,
must also have a combination of item that can be upgraded.

if has only artifact will try and buy a weapon or armour with 50% weight.
if only has armour will try and buy a weapon or artifact with 50% weight.

FINAL PURCHASEABLE CHECK
must have a slot in inventory.
============================================================

 

[Warhunter]

Please put changelog and such things in hidden tags. [ hidden ]

 

[Steelb_l_ade]

Done. thanks for pointing out how to do this.

 

[Awnman]

Goodjob

 

[X-OMG-X]

Really awesome map. Love it!

 

[MogulKahn]

Awesome map.But u have some mistakes.AI are bugged when cinematic is on.And pls these 2 (i think its 2) secrets heroes make playable all time.And quest pls.Whic hero is deletad and Infernal is replaced with him?Make more heroes and GJ.

 

[Steelb_l_ade]

Thanks for your comments, some bugs may arise with the AI due to it beign a new system, a workaround to this is to "disable titan cinematics" in the frontend game options.

Also, the 2 secret heroes while nto being anymore powerful than anyone else are an incentive to random, however if u wish to play as them they are both pickable in the map's "duel mode" chosen also from the frontend.

 

[Dr Super Good]

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[MogulKahn]

Can u make that AI buys a boots or something for speed.I dont like whenzhey are slow.Like Thugg The Strong he buys some item which slow his ms and he dont have boots(hes slow 2 xD).I catch them fast.=)

 

[Steelb_l_ade]

yeah i could, but at the end of the day the AI wont be able to compete or compare with a human player's ability.

Also, this is the very 1st revision of the AI and doubtless improvements will be made as problems with it are identified.

 

[MogulKahn]

I really love 2 play this map.If I found any bugs i ll tell u.=) Gj and when ll come new version?(with more heroes pls)
EDIT:Can u on your offical website update some things like add this new heroeslike Wraith or Sniper or TC etc.(last new hero on your website is Arcane Crusader xD).And can u change ult from pit demon?Yestrday my friends and I was playing ROTG(3vs3).I was on low hp and when i try 2 run my friend cast ult and worms blocks me or when we was in battle my friend cast ult and they block us on.xD PLS CHANGE THAT,there is 2 many worms!

 

[Steelb_l_ade]

The pit daemosn ultimate is pretty much made obselete by any form of AoE and is designed like that to be an effective counter to an all "assassin" class enemy team.

A dispel wand and or aoe generatining weapon also negates the worms evasion.

 

[firas724]

Where can I find the models?

 

[MogulKahn]

Next version ll be?New heroes?And pls change some icons of heroes (no wc3 style) like sea drake,wraith,...

 

[rAmPaGingONI]

the ai seems to stop playing after 5-15 mins, just sit in base and dont do anything. also, could i possibly have access to some of the models? im particularly interested in the angel and 4-winged dragon hero.

 

[Steelb_l_ade]

If your playing multiplayer a teammate may ahve disabled your AI, if not can I ahve some more details? like game mode and so on, the "angel" is from WOW, buy a copy of the game and extract it.

 

[MogulKahn]

I "must" tell this.I didnt tell that u need 2 change ult from pit daemon i just say i wish if u can "shrink" number of worms.U can make that worms 2 have more hp and dmg but smaller evasion and smaller number of them.And u didnt answer when ll come new version?

 

[rAmPaGingONI]

im playing single player, team battle, 3 ai on my team 4 on enemy team

 

[Steelb_l_ade]

Rampaging-> dont suppose you could grab a replay of it happening could you?
Would really help, in testing with 4 ai vs 4ai i saw em go for 3 hours once so must be a glitch with the purchase ai system or something.

Khan-> New versions of this only tend to happen when a list of bugs from the previous has got to the point where its necessary. The map is 5.3 meg in size and thus lots of versions with not many changes actually push the map backwards as its a bnet directed map.

I have no plans as yet to do a new version until i can compile a comprehensive list of bugs and review the ai's performance. As you can guess by its changelogs new versions are ot done to add 1 or 2 heroes and change a few spell values.

The pit daemons ultimate isnt goign to change aytime soon as its designed like that to specifically counter certain enemy tactics.

P.s it used to have less worms, and it defeated its purpose.

 

[MogulKahn]

Man u have bug with Bereserkers ult.When i cast ult and they kill me.Hero revived and i controled him 30 sec then he is out of control again.I died again 30 sec control and no control.Ult didnt have cd.-_-"

 

[Basinator]

Great map for sure. 5/5 Worth downloading and playing

 

[Steelb_l_ade]

AI Freezing?

Hey guys, quite a few people have reported issues with the AI freezing but as of yet have not provided many details on what may cause it, it seems to be random but only present in the teamplay mode.



Today I found some intresting news on THW regarding a bnet hack that was around lately:

"The crash worked by abusing the finite stack size that the WC3 main thread had. Many people who map WC3 probably have noticed how triggers can only execute so much code in one batch before the execution stops whether or not the end of the code was reached. Getting too many operations to run at once will result in WC3 hitting its stack size limit and so prevent any further execution of actions.

The glitch that the hackers used to crash players was simply getting a unit to execute an order with a non positional exit and then que up approximately 10000 invalid build orders which will collapse instantly and so hit the main thread stack limit. When this stack limit is reached, the game crashes. The accompanying hack for this crash however made the cheater immune to the crash (by for example increasing the stack size) and then could be used to issue 1000s of invalid build orders to collapse instantly when ready. To get the orders to collapse, a building must be qued inside an existing building 1000s of times so they all the qued orders can collapse at the same time. This que is started by getting a unit to patrol or smart another unit in an order which only can finish when the unit dies and then, after queuing enough build orders, killing the followed unit so the builder tries to complete them. The hack helped here again by ordering buildings inside already built buildings which is impossible is normal WC3.

This patch prevents (or is said to) stack crash from occurring so melee ranked games should be playable again. However by fixing this bug they may have changed the mechanics behind certain systems of the game in a currently unknown way."


This non-complete execution of code is something I have run into before during Rotg's development and due to the sheer amount of commands being executed when the AI is, for example shopping it may be its not completly executing all the code and therefore the AI just seems to "stop" as its final order strings are not being ran.

Please let me know if this issue remains with the new patch as if it does I can try to reduce the amount of code the ai uses per execution.

One of my testers has been unable to replicate the AI freeze bug and this may be because he was using the anti hack contingency as he ladders.

 

[Billy the Cat]

What's up with the preview image?

 

[Steelb_l_ade]

Seems to be corrupted somewhere along the posting process. It's fine locally and in-game.

 

[Evil seal]

I love this Map. It's balanced, very nice terrain and gamplay, AI, nice triggers. Keep it up man! 10/10

 

[Steelb_l_ade]

Thanks! Always nice to know someone's enjoying it.

 

[Haumin007]

Good work for the AI!

5/5 rating

 

[Steelb_l_ade]

Thanks!
The irony is that solo in teamgames they seem to beat me, which is ethier rather amusing or really sad depending how you look at it.

 

[MogulKahn]

Pls make AI more "smarter" !

 

[kevin101olorvida]

this is my favorite map cool so DOWNLOAD IT

 

[N1ghthawk]

The irony is that solo in teamgames they seem to beat me, which is ethier rather amusing or really sad depending how you look at it.

LAWL, it's both mate. The same thing happened in my AoS. I lost 8 of the 10 "test" matches I played agaisn't the AI.

Positive
- Environment is fantastic (sunken ruins...nice)
- Heroes have synergy and theres a plethora of them to pick from
- Excellent use of imported models
- A unique item system that includes hundreds of base items/recipies
- Unit contracts that allow you to survive creeping at earlier levels or get that extra edge in pvp combat
- Demi-god idea is well implemented (though the Harpy is just annoying)
- A.I. is available

Negative
- A.I. players often get "stuck" in some corner of the map

Review
I honestly could not think of anything else negative about the map and that just goes to show that the 6/5 rating given to it is right on. This map gives a whole new meaning to "Hero Arena" and I would reccomend it to ANYONE.

Rating
6/5

(BTW, you get that angel model from WoW or did someone create a copy? Iether way mind sending it to me?)

 

[Steelb_l_ade]

Thanks for your comments!
Always nice to see someone opinion.
The AI getting "stuck" in corners or hanging around undesirable places can be resolved as it can be loosley directed by the players. (You can also directly take control of your own AI by turning it off temporarily in the menu, this gives you full shared control)
If your hero enters pvp with enemy heroes and some of your AI has nothign better to do, they will be drawn towrads you, you can use this to pull them from undesirable spots.

The blue angel is a direct export from Wow's archives.
I think that its not possible to upload Wow models anymore, so just re-inflate it from the disks.

 

[N1ghthawk]

I don't have the WoW disks anymore so maybe i'll find someone who does and borrow them.

Thanks for the tips for manually bringing the AI back into combat.

Thanks for the response mate.

 

[MogulKahn]

Wow rip models are forbidden?

 

[Steelb_l_ade]

I'm not sure, so check the hives rules etc, I don't want to open the Wow model debate on this thread though as its the project feedback thread!
In order to kind of direct your AI if you do not wish to control it directly, its designed to react like a player as far as possible, for example, if you want it to come and assist you fighting a mini boss, attack the boss, if you want it to go towards the ritual altar, go there yourself. If the AI is not currently engaged in some overriding action (i.e fighting Pve or PVP or collecting items, retreating and so on) it will move towards where the fighting actually is.

Hope this helps!

 

[MogulKahn]

When will come new version?

 

[Steelb_l_ade]

When enough things are identified that need changing..
Or I think of some new things I want to implement.

 

[deepstrasz]

Nice map.

I like the dueling system.
Some spells are greatly slowing the game.

 

[Steelb_l_ade]

Thanks, effort has been made to close emory leaks, but somemay still lurk (though what ones beat me)

What spells in partcular?
Could it be "Firewall" or "Tsunasmi?"