realistic modeling help needed!

[Argo]

Hello, I've asked this question on other forums and searched Google a lot for a good tutorial on how to model a realistic rose and I've had no luck. If anyone knows a tutorial or knows how to go about making one please share. I'm using 3ds max 9 and plan on animating it from a tight rolled up rose to a fluffy "bloomed" rose.

Thank you, Argo.
*the attachment has two short videos of some effects i'm working on if you have any suggestions please share*
** may require a codec **
*** Used DivX ***

 

[Elfsilver Lord]

Check this out: http://hilton.gw.oiccam.com/showthread.php?t=93945

 

[Argo]

Sorry but that won't help me. I need this to have fully 3d petals and everything else, its not for wc3.

 

[Elfsilver Lord]

Ok then...

I guess what you would have to do is make bones for each pedal, have them each fold on eachother and bend, then straighten out.

To show it, I came up with an image, the crude red lines roughly representing the bones and joints you would need to put in.

The Image

 

[Argo]

yes i get that but the main problem is modeling it... i have no idea how to make the petals and in the proper formation of a rose. (and i think it would need more bones in each petal then just 1 with a few connecting to it, would need like branches and stuff to make it move in the wind more freely)

 

[Elfsilver Lord]

Just make little planes to make curves and sandwhich them, then add alternates for it.

 

[Argo]

i really don't think that would work, and when it comes to the dust part it wouldn't with planes

 

[Argo]

Added a new video in the zip. These videos use DivX as the compressor and may be easier to view then the last one i had up. Any suggestions on the effects would be appreciated.

 

[Argo]

ok i got a finished rose now (just have to add in the stem) tell me what you think. Its around 434000 polygons.

 

[donut3.5]

For having that many polygons, it doesn't seem to have the realistic feathery feel of roses.. It might have to do with the deep dark bold color used for the texture though. Nonetheless it looks nice.
--donut3.5--

 

[Argo]

well its not a texture just a colour of the objects. I'll put a normal map on it and a real texture putting it well over 1mill polygons lol.

 

[Kwaliti]

At the moment, it looks great!, However, you might want to fix it up a bit, because right now, it looks like the petals are ultra thick.