Pudge Wars Arena (AoS)

Ognjen19 · Feb 9, 2012

Links :
Tower http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/demon-tower-95160/?prev=search=Demon&d=list&r=20&t=6
Baracks well this is soposed to be main building but it can be used like something else:http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...del-196853/?prev=search=Demon&d=list&r=20&t=6
This can also be baracks :
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...lker-123939/?prev=search=Fire&d=list&r=20&t=6
We will need to ad fountans undead grean fountan
NE red fountan

Shanghai · Feb 9, 2012

I do allready have creep spawn and revival

What i will need i think is following.

1. Skills for the spells. (Like updates for hook and rot and massacre)
2. Change rot and flesh heap so its like orginal spells. (like the real pudge ones, because now rot doesent damage your own unit and there we have to fix the bot to)
3. And then alos edit the bots. (Because some times they stop and stay still in gameplay)
4. Then edit the bots so they use the spells right.
(Its GUI)

And later i will need dialog so you can choose modes without typing and so. Also so pudge revives at start spawn after 20 secs instead of tavern.

You can start if you want the map is at the start post. Just start from that one.

Its kinda everything for now.

And if you have any ideas let me know.

Links :
Tower Demon Tower
Baracks well this is soposed to be main building but it can be used like something elseemonish Bulwark / Bastion / Citadel
This can also be baracks :
Shrine of the Deathwalker
We will need to ad fountans undead grean fountan
NE red fountan

The tower was nice but the other building use alot of space.

Ognjen19 · Feb 9, 2012

Lol they can be resized, we can ask for help,resizing can be doned using WE but i don't know how to do that

Shanghai · Feb 9, 2012

ok but find more buildings because the tower idea was good. I do import it after Chuchulain done some triggers.

Hexcellion · Feb 9, 2012

I'm getting lost, what's happening? Lol. Update me with the new map later, so I can check whether you're progressing nicely or not.

Shanghai · Feb 9, 2012

I will keep you up to date. (Dont worry) You can check the skillz if its right. I think Chuchulain will do it

So you can do some edits later. I will update you...

And also Ognjen19 had an nice idea to change the buildings. Because we dont know if trees will fit in the city. So i will do some building changes.

Hexcellion · Feb 9, 2012

Imo, trees would fit the city, but not at the battlefield. It's a city, so trees, houses, buildings would really fit it. But outside the city, trees are would not fit the terrain. Maybe you could reterrain the Sentinel's base area, and the Scourge's base area to fit their nature: Sentinel's having green areas, trees, while the Scourge gets a creepy base, undead bodies, corpses, corrupted towers, etc.

Shanghai · Feb 9, 2012

Ah thats even better. I will do remake terrain then. So evil base dead and icy and the good side have trees and green land. And still make it like an city. Good idea. Will see what Ognjen19 thinks about that. Il do this after Chuchulain doing some triggers.

Hexcellion · Feb 9, 2012

Shanghai said:
Ah thats even better. I will do remake terrain then. So evil base dead and icy and the good side have trees and green land. And still make it like an city. Good idea. Will see what Ognjen19 thinks about that. Il do this after Chuchulain doing some triggers.

Yes, and no. There's a city in there, right? That's what I meant. Trees could be added in Sentinel area or in the city.

Ognjen19 · Feb 9, 2012

Well nice idea ,we can make NE using Sunken ruins dodads and textures,undead will city lots of corpses for the Undead part use Dalaran fall dodats and textures.

Ognjen19 · Feb 9, 2012

PPL lets make skype group who is for ?
It will be faster then every time cheching the forum......

Hexcellion · Feb 9, 2012

Yes, I agree to that. Go make one, Shanghai, since you're the project leader and all.

Shanghai · Feb 9, 2012

I will remake so it mixed. Terrain like this.

Good side / Forest and some city
Evil side / City and snow and icy, also some city terrain

Also i will remove all the blizz cliffs. (Look uggly i think)

Tell me if you have any other ideas for terrain. I will try make it look much better.
Or shall i make map like HoN? Hereos of new earth what would be best?

Tell me your ideas.

And Ognjen19 im on facebook. Why not use facebook ?

Hexcellion · Feb 9, 2012

Shanghai said:
I will remake so it mixed. Terrain like this.

Good side / Forest and some city
Evil side / City and snow and icy, also some city terrain

Also i will remove all the blizz cliffs. (Look uggly i think)

Tell me if you have any other ideas for terrain. I will try make it look much better.
Or shall i make map like HoN? Hereos of new earth what would be best?

Tell me your ideas.

And Ognjen19 im on facebook. Why not use facebook ?

Because Skype could be open while playing, and it's a better messaging client. Try using Skype, lol.

Shanghai · Feb 9, 2012

ok i get it.

Hexcellion · Feb 9, 2012

And, using a browser + Facebook while playing, would make my comp lag so much.

Btw, if you decide to make a Skype, add me, my username's Hexcellion

Shanghai · Feb 9, 2012

Ognjen19 whats your skype name?

Hexcellion · Feb 9, 2012

His Skype name is ognjen8.todorovic I think. That's what I saw in his profile, lol.

Shanghai · Feb 9, 2012

no such user :/ Btw im talkign to you on skype no response

?

Hexcellion · Feb 9, 2012

Oh, sorry. I didn't see notifications, I was playing a game earlier.

Shanghai · Feb 9, 2012

Hex are you up for testing the map?

Chuchulain · Feb 9, 2012

I added dismember spell , i already add skill on The Pudge Butcher , just edit the tool tip and also change name of the skill something like (Bloody Massacre etc.) just like i said on pm , i'll make pudge hit the target with extreme speed instead of eating his target , let me update you later too busy right now . the ability is on neutral hostile - heroes.

don't forget to give credits to them.

GUI Unit Indexer System by Bribe
BloodySplat Missile By NewbieMapper
BloodOfDamage By JetFangInferno ..

and btw. this is my suggestion, why not change the map name into Hook Wars , so that we can create another hero with a unique hook style not just pudge on the game ..

Shanghai · Feb 10, 2012

yes

why not. But isent it better with 1 pudge or. Is it better with diffrent hooks rly? Because we were gona add skillz for the hook. Nice could you also remake the rot so its real pudge spell. Or mybe use the spell i got for rot.

Fact u need to help me with bots so they use all the spells correctly.

Chuchulain · Feb 10, 2012

I added rot on pudge now download it on the top, i'll do the mode thingy later. i'll will also try later to create trigger for ai because i never really done it before.

and one more thing about the items that upgrade the hook, we'll its not good when u leveling the hook and upgrading it on the same time . if you want just set the all skills to level 1 and let the items upgrade the them.

my suggestion, maybe let's just a mode that release some other heroes with different hooks (like hookshot of clockwerk). I think it will be fun.

Hexcellion · Feb 10, 2012

Chuchulain said:
I added rot on pudge now, i'll do the mode thingy later ... let me try on ai because i never really done it before ..

and one more thing about the items that upgrade the hook, we'll its not good when u leveling the hook and upgrading it on the same time . if you want just set the all skills to level 1 and let the items upgrade the them.

On, my suggestion, maybe let's just a mode that release some other heroes with different hooks (like hookshot of clockwerk). I think it will be fun.

Adding AI would suck, because no one would play it, why would you play a Pudge Wars AoS AI? Only a few would do that, because it's more fun on multiplayer.

Because the butchers would have 5k+ hp, that's why you're gonna level hook, rot, dismember, and the 3rd skill, and upgrade them. That's for their combos to work, and for other butchers to be able to kill each other. Making the hook damage like 500 only, would make the game impossible to finish when you're playing 1v1 or 2v2, you'll have to double team a pudge in order to kill one, when you could just solo one. That's why upgrades, and skill levels are better.

No, that would make the map's size rise up so much. Adding new models for hook, a new model for a hero, and new skills. I don't see the point of adding those, when you could just buy special skills like rattletrap's hook, tiny's toss, etc.

Chuchulain · Feb 10, 2012

Hexcellion said:
Adding AI would suck, because no one would play it, why would you play a Pudge Wars AoS AI? Only a few would do that, because it's more fun on multiplayer.

He said i need to work on ai, removing ai on my trigger will be fine.

Hexcellion said:
No, that would make the map's size rise up so much. Adding new models for hook, a new model for a hero, and new skills. I don't see the point of adding those, when you could just buy special skills like rattletrap's hook, tiny's toss, etc..

Map size ? it really doesn't matter as long the player enjoying the game, and map size won't hit 5mb+. A new model hero, new skills, new models for hook ? You don't really get what my point is. We'll nvm, i'll stick to the map maker ideas.

Hexcellion · Feb 10, 2012

Chuchulain said:
He said i need to work on ai, removing ai on my trigger will be fine.

Map size ? it really doesn't matter as long the player enjoying the game, and map size won't hit 5mb+. A new model hero, new skills, new models for hook ? You don't really get what my point is. We'll nvm, i'll stick to the map maker ideas.

You're the one who's not getting me. It's a Pudge Wars map, why would you add a Magina who could hook and stuff when you could just add special skills like his blink, etc.

I don't really see the point in adding another character, lol.

Chuchulain · Feb 10, 2012

Hexcellion said:
You're the one who's not getting me. It's a fucking Pudge Wars map, why would you add a Magina who could hook and stuff when you could just add special skills like his blink, etc.

I don't really see the point in adding another character, lol.

Not why ? Who would add a magina who could hook and stuff when you could just add special skills like his blink, etc. ? ... see, you don't really get my point ..

You're not reading the post after all. Just what i said in my post lately .. nevermind.

Hexcellion · Feb 11, 2012

Chuchulain said:
Not why ? Who would add a magina who could hook and stuff when you could just add special skills like his blink, etc. ? ... see, you don't really get my point ..

You're not reading the post after all. Just what i said in my post lately .. nevermind.

Lol, you do know that the Magina was an example right? Are you really getting what I'm saying? Okay, you said that there should be a mode where there are special hooks, wow. I just said that before you posted that. I've already said that days before you posted that. That's why there are special skills like blink right? Why make a mode for that, when you could just add special skills? Or maybe add a mode to enable special skills.

Shanghai · Feb 11, 2012

guys comon. Tell me your ideas and we do them togheter... And the Ai is good. I had Ai on my other map and got + for that. Its good if you wana train offline.

I think they r kinda good. But when your online u will play with people i think

Kinda sure you will fight versus others online.

So guys tell me both your ideas. And we can decide what ideas we use.

zlowly · Feb 11, 2012

maybe i can be the beta tester and the suggester how bout that?
am i accepted?
But,i don't mind if accepted or not
i'm just gonna giving my idea
first i want to ask "are this pudge wars with a town or maze map?"

here my first suggestion
1.maybe you should put a custom skill like in a custom pudge wars if you kill a enemy got a point and then upgrade strength,range of hook,and the speed of hook and don't forget the rot and the dismember ^_^
2.But,if you don't like my first suggestion how bout this.Your make a shop in there you can buy upgrade of your streng and Etc...
3.You must make the shop to buy a skill like a custom pudge wars map but you must add
(1.Entangling root:like rooftrelen skills you must upgrade it 4 or 5 time to make it to the ultimate the functions is a roots gonna come from ground and wrapping your enemies and the ultimate you can have a bonus armor and health regenerations.You can get 10 armor and 5 health regenerations/sec
(2.Eclipse:Like luna moonfang skill you must upgrade it 4 or 5 time to make it to the ultimate the functions is a eclipse beam gonna make a damage to enemies and the ultimate is the beam gonna make a damage to enemies 5 times and can make you invisible for 4 sec

Ok just that's my suggestion hope you like it

Ognjen19 · Feb 11, 2012

zlowly said:
maybe i can be the beta tester and the suggester how bout that?
am i accepted?
But,i don't mind if accepted or not
i'm just gonna giving my idea
first i want to ask "are this pudge wars with a town or maze map?"

here my first suggestion
1.maybe you should put a custom skill like in a custom pudge wars if you kill a enemy got a point and then upgrade strength,range of hook,and the speed of hook and don't forget the rot and the dismember ^_^
2.But,if you don't like my first suggestion how bout this.Your make a shop in there you can buy upgrade of your streng and Etc...
3.You must make the shop to buy a skill like a custom pudge wars map but you must add
(1.Entangling root:like rooftrelen skills you must upgrade it 4 or 5 time to make it to the ultimate the functions is a roots gonna come from ground and wrapping your enemies and the ultimate you can have a bonus armor and health regenerations.You can get 10 armor and 5 health regenerations/sec
(2.Eclipse:Like luna moonfang skill you must upgrade it 4 or 5 time to make it to the ultimate the functions is a eclipse beam gonna make a damage to enemies and the ultimate is the beam gonna make a damage to enemies 5 times and can make you invisible for 4 sec

Ok just that's my suggestion hope you like it

Nice idea but it is peter to make first ver simple,and if someone Weit we will make it more and more complicated.....
Shanghai you havent deleted unused materials .........

Shanghai · Feb 11, 2012

Na i will delete material later thats not in use. Fact i deleted 2 models

I will delete more unused materials later so u know

Chuchulain do you have skype?

zlowly ofc your accepted. Fact is hex did allready told me about those kind of ideas. And Chuchulain is the trigger. First we make simple version and then make updates. Skillz and more when the trigger have time.

Chuchulain · Feb 11, 2012

after 4 hrs of uploading, i'm having a connection problem it always fail when i'm uploading ..

I already done with pudge skills ... (Rot, Flesh Heap and Dismember) just add the abilities on pudge and edit the tool tips, Btw, i notice the Hook, when you cast it and hit a unit, the hook keeps pulling the unit even the unit is near the caster unless the caster move the hook will take off ...

No, i don't have skype, i only use facebook ...

Shanghai · Feb 11, 2012

could you possible fix that hook bugg? Thnx for help mate.

Chuchulain · Feb 11, 2012

I removed the map something wrong with it ... here's the map ...

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?62pmk8pt99kpu58

and yea i fix the hook, i think its fine now ...

zlowly · Feb 12, 2012

i'm downloading the map to test it maybe i can find a bug

zlowly · Feb 12, 2012

Hey i found something like bug maybe...
i already killed 2 enemies and then i'm suicide with the mana shield(Rot) but in the log message i see it's write like this
Zlowly killed zlowly hero for 90 gold
zlowly is Killing spree

-_- what?! i get killing spree for kill my own self?!

and when i choose a mode i choose uber mode it's say all hero start from level 10 but why i start from level 25?
and for what is the tavern in top left?
when i start the game i'm already having a hero with level 25

Chuchulain · Feb 12, 2012

that was a test map, i forgot to remove the heroes on the map, i'll fix it later or i'll let Shanghai fix it ...

about the killing streak system i didn't create it so i don't know, but i'll fix it soon.

the uber mode does not work because it has already a level 25 pudge on the game, i'm using it for a testing the spells i forgot to remove that.

thanks for checking it out ...

Shanghai · Feb 12, 2012

ok good. Ye he put out some testing units.

I wana test the map tell me if someone is up for testing.

zlowly · Feb 13, 2012

Ok,better be fast to make this map reach a beta stage because all of my friends want to test it

Ognjen19 · Feb 13, 2012

Tooltips

Hey doned the half,i leave the rest to Hexcellion no more ideas

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And make Pudge weaker i killed the bos in all mods in 2 mins ........ :ogre_haosis:

Item data Uploaded.
Lets test it someone whit good connection will be host.

Shanghai · Feb 13, 2012

thnx but how do i load this item thing.

Did find it thnx looks nice

zlowly · Feb 13, 2012

little step closer to beta test

Shanghai · Feb 13, 2012

ya its the bugg and some few more things then its close to finished.

Chuchulain i did upload newest map.

Ognjen19 · Feb 13, 2012

Ok go to object editor,selection items,pres file then import item seitings(or data) select mine and import it .

Shanghai · Feb 13, 2012

i did allready do it

Soon beta.... Gona need some beta testers.

Ognjen19 · Feb 13, 2012

Finaly loading screan X

Path is in the zip
link:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/56545066/Loading.zip
How ar we going to name our map making team my Sugestion is Frost Trools

Chuchulain · Feb 13, 2012

I'm sorry i'll be busy today

) ..

Btw.. lets not to about ai, lets focus on the items or the events to make the beta map release asap ...
and remove the unused models, start making item ideas, just pm me the bugs and i'll do it later ...

Ognjen19 · Feb 13, 2012

I did what i choud ,rest i will need to do whit you others map is greate only bad thing is that PUDGE IS TO POWERFULL....

Pudge Wars Arena (AoS)

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