Orcs & Humans: Orc Missions (ALPHA)

[Anaxie]

Yay nice to see this campaign nearing its completion.

I agree on Orgrim bashing in Gul'dans face untill he breaks out in tears and "swears allegiance" sounds like a good Idea for an epilogue .
In the epilogue Gul'dan should also mention the propable raider revolt and promise to create death knights.
Perhaps show some preparations for the second war, like building ships, amassing forces, enslaving dragons etc.
I suggest making a dungeon map after Stormwind siege where you have to dismantle the Shadow Council and find Gul'dan though.

As for WC2 Campaigns, Id be happy to see the Human Campaign too, but I think Orgrim ransacking Northern Kingdoms until the Siege of Quel'Thalas and Lordaeron, gaining alliance with Zul'Jin and losing it later and then finally Sargeras' Tomb are all major plotlines which should be implemented in an Orc Campaign

Yeah but the orc campaign isn't canon. You could remove all the filler battles and take the major skirmishes during the war from alliance PoV and it gives an excuse for mission varience. Siege of lordaeron was orc in WC2 this did happen in lore but they didn't success unlike the game due to gul'dan. This could easily be reflected as a huge defense mission leaving with an interlude after showing GulDan being ripped apart and the fleet setting sail from capital city to pursue to orcs back to Black rock spire. It gives it a cohesive story and removes fluff. Like for instance the grim batol mission seems pointless to remake. Nothing relevant happened and as far as lore is concern grim batol was never dismantled unti . Day of the dragon well after the 2nd War ended.

Untilmately though its up to adney and if he even wants to pursue the 2nd war or his own story. After Warcraft . Though I'm just hoping he doesn't retire anytime soon.

 

[Lazarator]

OMG! So good campaign, I have really enjoyed playing it! I agree with others, Adney, you should really consider about making WC2 campaign with focus on humans and having Lothar as a main human hero. This campaign was really a masterpeace and I'm giving a 5/5 rate :-D

 

[Joinma]

This campaign is pretty good. Orc's units are all inferior to Human's units. Without Orgrim, orc can never win the battle against Human in this campaign.

 

[Anaxie]

It doesn't matter if their inferior. The enemy has no heroes and Mass Raiders truck everything

Also Orgrim being key is kind of the point I would think

Adney after your last V1.6 update Hard difficulty is spot on for the missions that had too many waves like the Redridge Camps ect.

Go balls out on those last 3 Maps. Can't wait

 

[Dethret]

I tried this campaign, but I haven't finished it. I love it so far and it's a great campaign.
The only thing that bugs me is the language; it is not that good, grammatical errors and badly structured sentences.
I suggest you get some help from this site with structuring your dialogues to correct sentences.
I know it is a lot of work re-writing everything, but it really helps with the quality.
Other than that it is good

 

[joaquim98]

The campaing is great I had a lot of fun, how is progress going?

 

[Bloodly]

Consider letting the Hero healing aura of the Town Hall apply to units too. As it is, it's something of a mess with the constant waves of units, no choke points to use, and no real way to recover.

 

[Anaxie]

Consider letting the Hero healing aura of the Town Hall apply to units too. As it is, it's something of a mess with the constant waves of units, no choke points to use, and no real way to recover.

Enemies have no hero.

Not particularly hard really. Be smarter with orgrim

 

[Bloodly]

Doesn't matter that enemies have no hero, Orcs besides Orgrim are apparently too dumb to fix themselves up between fights, and the waves are big enough to require large armies to match them in turn-as such, 'they' win through attrition. He's not dying, everyone ELSE is. Orgrim only really gets powerful enough(Both in terms of abilities, and the mana pool to do more stuff) to really turn battles and play 'healable tank' for the army at around Mission 3. Swamps of Sorrow and Borderlands have gone from tutorial to bloodbath, whilst still claiming to be tutorials. It feels off.

It's clear the issue is recognised, hence everything dropping healing potions, mana potions, runes, scrolls, salves. Orc Mission 5 was always my sticking point in original War1, yet it was simple here despite things like Chaos damage slimes, thanks to all the 'help' given(Is killing your own unit to resurrect them 'gamey'?). The fight with Turok was interesting. I wonder if there'll be more such?

Still. It's a thought. It made the difference for me.

 

[Anaxie]

Use orgtim the tank and his shockwaves. Troops die so obviously make more or retreat hurt ones till you obtain a scroll. Also raiders end mass are op as fuck.

I had no issues on hard mode use orgrim and loseing minimal to no units on max difficulty before tuning made some missions easier.

Again use orgrim properly.

Also what makes you think this game is supposed to have tutorial settings? I doesn't and shouldn't. The difficulty across the board is about the same. Except until u get orgrim a certain item and he can solo missions 8D

Also in hindsight adney in final version I'd change a certain item black hand rewards with something else or perhaps a similar aura item. Its far too game breaking for your final 5 missions once obtained [but hella fun tho)

Think my orgrim has like +52 damage and he has crits + leech mask = one man afk army

Any who back to my point. Difficulty is fine. if It is too hard downscale it. If u don't want to downscale it then try harder and don't pander for campaign nerfs. If somehow your playing on normal then idk. Turn the game speed to max slow I guess. Wanting town hall to heal units is absolutely ridiculous.

 

[TheNoLifeKing]

there is a trick here find the ankhs and healing salves now once you use charges 1 & 2 on salve sell it to town hall and buy back later and repeat, i just wish item transferred on hero between chapters there was a few time i was wishing id start a mission with gear from previous mission, then i got into habit of selling everything for a final push

 

[Anaxie]

What? All items carry over. Unless your talking aboutnmore then 6. Also neat salv trick. Did not know or need it but will do on next playthrough unless adney fixes. Technically is a bug.

 

[TheNoLifeKing]

not sure why but items never transfered through the whole campaign for me. over all i loved the missions and the story look forward to continuation or human counterpart

 

[Kenshi1007]

not sure why but items never transfered through the whole campaign for me. over all i loved the missions and the story look forward to continuation or human counterpart

Thank you sir for the reply. The triology will be fixed for bugs. Also im working on map 3 REMASTER, improving the map, adding new features, etc. Map 1 and 2 will also suffer REMASTER improvement, but i don't know when.

 

[Anaxie]

Thank you sir for the reply. The triology will be fixed for bugs. Also im working on map 3 REMASTER, improving the map, adding new features, etc. Map 1 and 2 will also suffer REMASTER improvement, but i don't know when.

I'm lost who are you?

 

[Kenshi1007]

I'm lost who are you?

i was replying about my maps and not about orcs and humans. He send me a reply about my own project about his comments about the issues of one of my maps. people got confused even the admin about what i said cuz i said on Orcs and humans page and they easly compared orcs & humans with my own maps XDDD

About orcs and humans its a great sequence of maps i Love it.

 

[Anaxie]

Any new info? Eagerly waiting on the last two missions

Human 2nd War next?

 

[Emoall]

Please tell me that the project is not abandoned and that you will also create the human missions as well.

 

[Anaxie]

Dear sweet Adney.

Give us an update! Can't wait for your final 2 missions to be released.

HYPE

 

[joaquim98]

The proyect is really good, are there ay updates?

 

[Anaxie]

Any new info man?

You only had 2 missions to go!

Don't skimp the finale

 

[djsailbeat]

i think mod is dead

 

[Raresh.]

Interesting

 

[Lazarator]

i think mod is dead

Yeah, it's pretty dead. Such a shame

 

[deepstrasz]

i think mod is dead

Yeah, it's pretty dead. Such a shame

Spare us the unproven sentences. I highly doubt the creator of this campaign would not have the decency of at least posting a farewell before any of these assumptions would start spamming the campaign's thread. His last visit on Hive was not long ago. Life and time are factors that play a role into either impeding or nourishing work, and might prove either me or you wrong.

 

[Biber]

I'm following this campaign for years now and I hope you will finally finish the last two missions. This campaign is a really good remake of the orc story of Warcraft I and I want to see the end of this! Especially I want to see the last mission and the destruction of Stormwind city. There exist no Warcraft III map in which I can do that and it would be such a great satisfaction playing the old horde and burn it down!

 

[Anaxie]

I desperately hope to hear from adney again and get the final 2 missions. As far as polish goes i cant find anythi ng wrong with this campaign and ive played it 3 times. Its a masterpiece and every bit as good as blozzards work and one of the best campaings ever made comparable with tomoraider and others work.

Please come back and let us know the status.

Its a shame this campaign says ALPHA because the levels we do have play like a V2.0 of someones campaign.

If you havnt played this yet you have been missing out.

 

[Adney]

Hey guys!

Time is fast... It is like the last update was yesterday. But it was not, and I have to say that you have to wait for it, because as someone has said that there are factors in life which do not allow me to make this campaign. I learn at an university amd it take much of my free time. If I have any I am with my girlfriend, the meaning of my life, so it would be very hard to finish the campaign. Do not be sad, I want to finish it, but it will not be done for years from now.

I am really sorry for this, because your like to this campaign makes me happy. I did not thought that it will be this good for you.

Thanks you playing with my creation!

I have to say with sadness, you have to wait for the next update. I promise you that you will be gotten a message by me.

Have a great time till then!

 

[Anaxie]

how sad

 

[Lazarator]

Great to hear from you, Adney. I really thought that you'd given up from making the last few chapters of the campaign that are left. No problem. Just keep up with your University and don't worry about the campaign. You'll finish it when you have time. Best regards

 

[joaquim98]

Although it is sad to read that it will take some time, I trust that you'll finish it. It is good to see that you still care, great work btw.

 

[tulee]

Just finished the campaign yesterday, it was fantastic! Hard difficulty was incredibly challenging, and even when ogrim become insanely strong (like with lifesteal) you still made it challenging (i.e the enemy mages had stun which would result in death if you sent in ogrim to just solo with his lifesteal effect). Thank you author (adney) for making this campaign and keeping warcraft 3 alive for those people like me who are stuck in the past

 

[Lazarator]

Just finished the campaign yesterday, it was fantastic! Hard difficulty was incredibly challenging, and even when ogrim become insanely strong (like with lifesteal) you still made it challenging (i.e the enemy mages had stun which would result in death if you sent in ogrim to just solo with his lifesteal effect). Thank you author (adney) for making this campaign and keeping warcraft 3 alive for those people like me who are stuck in the past

Stuck in a past like me lol. I love WC1 and 2 events more than WC3 and WOW events. This campaign is just great, but there are just lack of characters. It'd have been better if there could've been more characters involved to make the campaign events even more interesting. I just hope Adney will return one day and finish the campaign, since it's almost done.

 

[Anaxie]

Hey guys!

Time is fast... It is like the last update was yesterday. But it was not, and I have to say that you have to wait for it, because as someone has said that there are factors in life which do not allow me to make this campaign. I learn at an university amd it take much of my free time. If I have any I am with my girlfriend, the meaning of my life, so it would be very hard to finish the campaign. Do not be sad, I want to finish it, but it will not be done for years from now.

I am really sorry for this, because your like to this campaign makes me happy. I did not thought that it will be this good for you.

Thanks you playing with my creation!

I have to say with sadness, you have to wait for the next update. I promise you that you will be gotten a message by me.

Have a great time till then!

Any updates

was so sad to leave this polished masterpiece off before the last 2 maps to destroy Goldshire+Moonbrook , then Stormwind!



miss you!

 

[LordPerenolde II]

Cool. Why am i seeing all of this just now?

EDIT: anyway, what i wrote on my remake trailer was never so right:
"Many have tried, some have stopped, others were inconclusive. Everyone except one player, moved by the desire of playing a remake which could have been as accurate as possible." Man, i feel proud!

 

[Anaxie]

True but this is a true warcraft 3 conversaion style not a replica. Its very sad too. It put his level design on par with blizzard.

 

[LordPerenolde II]

Yes i've seen some screenshot. Notable. Plus he had a team too. Had to be a pretty big size of work despite that. What a waste.

 

[Anaxie]

Yes i've seen some screenshot. Notable. Plus he had a team too. Had to be a pretty big size of work despite that. What a waste.

Didnt know if he had a team or not.
I wouldnt just check screens id play it. it would endorse this without a second thought for inspiration and to see what he did to the first 10 orc missions since you know wc1 intimately well.

He to me made one of the most fitting swamp like levels ive ever seen and his sunnyglade mountain map is a benchmark for terrain imo.

 

[standardtrickyness]

Okay ridiculous bug in mission 7 engaging blackhand if you have to retreat the camera will CONSTANTLY pan back to some weird spot in the north WTF

see save file here buggycamera.w3z

p.s. why can't I upload save files thats like the best way to report bugs.

 

[Herod]

This map for reforged? When?

 

[LordPerenolde II]

This map for reforged? When?

lol, good luck even hoping to get some custom material on Refunded.

 

[anzelayne]

Please please someone finish this masterpiece

 

[Lone_Wolf_2021]

Just asking this here cause I don't know where=

you know? there is this chapter in wc1 were you go kill the warchief's daughter who allied with the ogres. "HOW TF SHOULD I KILL THE SLIMES?" they are so hard to kill and I can't get past that level without cheats.

 

[deepstrasz]

you know? there is this chapter in wc1 were you go kill the warchief's daughter who allied with the ogres. "HOW TF SHOULD I KILL THE SLIMES?" they are so hard to kill and I can't get past that level without cheats.

In the original game it was a good idea to either use run and gun tactics or just avoid those creature completely.

 

[Lazarator]

Just asking this here cause I don't know where=

you know? there is this chapter in wc1 were you go kill the warchief's daughter who allied with the ogres. "HOW TF SHOULD I KILL THE SLIMES?" they are so hard to kill and I can't get past that level without cheats.

I remember I used to kill them all without problem. Your hero is a great tanker, so you just need to buff your hero as much as possible with the best items you can find. Try puting Orgrim at the front. Also, spread you units when battling, make good formations, make sure they're all (or at least most of your units) engaging in combat and you'll achieve most of it.

 

[deepstrasz]

I remember I used to kill them all without problem.

Oh wait, this isn't LordPerenoldeII's remake.
Yeah, it's easy, just kill one then wait to regenerate and repeat.

 

[Lazarator]

Oh wait, this isn't LordPerenoldeII's remake.
Yeah, it's easy, just kill one then wait to regenerate and repeat.

I don't remember correctly because I played it years ago, but I do remember there were numerous healing runes dropped after killing the enemy units. So there was no need to wait for units to regenerate.

 

[Lone_Wolf_2021]

I remember I used to kill them all without problem. Your hero is a great tanker, so you just need to buff your hero as much as possible with the best items you can find. Try puting Orgrim at the front. Also, spread you units when battling, make good formations, make sure they're all (or at least most of your units) engaging combat and you'll achieve most of it.

Um, I am talking about the original game. Are the heroes in the game?

 

[Anaxie]

After the blachand mission you can solo the last 3 missions with orgrim. Mask a death that casts aoe silence and there are enough attack items to push him 40+ easily and his critical strike. And you get command aura. GG and have over 15 armor

That mixed with raiders being essentially Knights

The entire campaign drops in difficulty regardless once you can mass raiders. Just use orgrims shockwave intelligently and tank eith him since the great hall is a healing fountain for him.

Rely heavily on spearthrowers before raiders. Grunts are junk in wc1

The enemy has no heroes to counter orgrim the only threar is wizards.

Also protip after you kill the ogre chief in the gaves wait for the corpse to dissappear and then his entire inventory will drop. Do this on blackhand mission and the shadow councilor will drop the +10 shadow orb once his corpse despawns

 

[Ricox19]

I finished the campaign couple of weeks ago, I wanted to do a detailed review but my neighbour's dog ate my notebook , so I will make a very general review:

• First of all, the terrain desing is astounding, every map is very unique, with its secrets and unique loot, exploring every map was satisfactory, finding side quest to do and finding some enemies and allies with dialogue, truly this campaign design feels like it was made by Blizzard. 5/5

• I guess I'm too young to play Warcraft I, but the way the story is explained in this campaign is very efficient, not interludes and explaining some things from the first game during the loading screens and the dialogue. The cutscenes are skipable but I don't recommend skipping them because they are short and it can bug the gameplay though. 5/5

• The gameplay is good enough, the humans and orcs are very similar except for the type of armor and mages, would've like an enemy hero though, I reached a point where the hero is too OP with +30 damage and +15 armor, making Orgrim unbeatable, the idea of making the main orc building like a fountain for the hero to regenerate is an original idea? or it was also made in the original game? that was a good idea btw. 3/5, not much variety, just spamming wolfriders that are OP.

In general the campaign felt refreshing after every loading screen, the design of the loading screens and the description were awesome.

• Bugs: I only found one bug that triggered on the first 3 missions, a very, VERY weird bug, every time that I clicked on F10 to spam the menu, for some reason the game wouldn't pause and kept running behind the Menu Screen, as if I was playing multiplayer, would love to read some comments if other people experienced this.

Played on v1.27b, good campaign.