Mini-Cinematic Contest #?

[Septimus]

really people, y is this contest invoking so much hatred, if you don't like the idea, please move on with your life. don't stop to post.

Nobody hate your thread, it's just that your thread lack of the necessary detail (Especially in Theme) to make it a successful contest.

Can we all stop being hostile to one another and discuss what this thread is meant for, rather then flaming each other?

You should be discussing whether or not you think this contest will work, and whether or not you will join it, not talk about all the BS you guys are now..

Please quit before I contact a moderator.

That is what we're currently discussing.

We ARE discussing the contest here. Some of us think it's not going to work and give valid reasons to think so. Gerra obviously can't take criticism on his idea for the theme.

I strongly suggest to hold a poll to determine the theme to keep it fair and open for everyone.

My exact sentiment, the freelance theme isn't going to work out too well.

What Garra want in the cinematic contest seems to be a mindless fight without any story or sequences. He need to make a better elaboration about it.

I suggest you find a better way to discuss it rather then trolling eachother.

He isn't trolling, he was making quite a valid point over here. If he is indeed trolling, he would be punish long time ago.

A bunch of sfx is not a reason to judge a cinematic, because, Mr. Avator, this is not a scripting contest; cinematic ones are based on several axes. This is a free contest, every contestant will submit freely what excites them the most, audio-wise and image-wise. If a bunch of sfx is what excites them, then this is what they will fill their cinematic up with. Just because I haven't submitted a cinematic submission or Devine, it doesn't mean that you must be biased of us not being responsible to deal with a contest. Who are you to tell us when to experiment ourselves?

That was mention by me, not by him. Regardless of it, the main priority that are currently under discussion was this.

1) Can the contestant finish it in time?

2) Are they really serious enough to finish their cinematic in time?

3) Do they already have sufficient idea on how the cinematic going to goes for more than 4 minutes?

It becomes an off-topic, you know. I really am not in the mood to answer all these things you call yourself arguments. You just place a tablet on this cinematic's theme, calling it a fail. You are so selfish, that you insist on revealing how you feel about this contest. I, myself find the theme exciting and just because you think it's not going to happen, you try to affect others' opinion to lead towards a disapproval of it. Don't tell me you don't, because you are continuously arguing with anyone that posts a different opinion than yours. The thing is you really are going on too much with this. I had the good mood to see this contest going on, but a bunch of people ruin it, by playing it smart (you really do), and in the end I have no mood of going on with this anymore. You've already ruined it and no, that's not because I give up easily, but if I start posting my things here, I will become what I currently judge. The conversation is a matter of multiple opinions that set the final decision. You've made yourself clear right from the beginning. Since then, you keep trying too hard to not make the contest happen. Just get over this thread, you are no moderator that decides the contests' approval, so this persistent behaviour gives me the light of calling you stubborn and selfish. It's not a big deal, it's just you.
Instead of just revealing a 'false' pattern (which I agree with), try to be more creative, by suggesting an additional theme. It feels like a mosquito in my ears, while I'm sleeping, that it is so attracted to my temeperature, that it won't let go. Don't be that mosquito please. Now, don't make another x10 arguments list, we've already had enough of, so, just tell us what would excite you more to participate in an upcoming cinematic contest. If you did that, make sure I wouldn't bother replying. Plus, you and Septimus only disagree with the theme, so, don't call yourself the 'voice' of the people, because you are voice of you, yourself and.. you.
And the "capability" points you've mentioned, trust me, they will do nothing to a contest. Skills are wanted here, not personality factors. Who cares if you are able of straighting minds up? Just because some people want this contest happen, it doesn't mean they are half brained, because you get yourself in an additional comparison with the others, still not making you the "voice" of the others. Please, we aren't speaking of jobs here, that people fly in the skies, that, after graduating a job will be waiting for them, it's just a small contest of the X billion sites they exist on the Internet. So, why do you think we're actually "flying" in the skies, just because we want a theme for a contest?

gosh, can you at least separate it with paragraph... =.=

If you did that, make sure I wouldn't bother replying. Plus, you and Septimus only disagree with the theme, so, don't call yourself the 'voice' of the people, because you are voice of you, yourself and.. you.

That's because we have seen countless of cinematic contest that goes into grinding halt due to withdraw, unable to finish in time and etc etc.

And we never called ourselves the voice of the people. We are entitle to have our own opinion, it was your decision and our decision to respect each other opinion.

If I'm really just here to spread a bad mood as you think I am, then why do you let it happen? If I'm only lying as you think I am, then why would people stop? It's not me why people forfeit, it's the facts that are here for everyone to see. Whether they want to see it or not is their choice, but I'll tell you this is the 3rd or 4th contest already that's going to end with me telling you: "I told you so.", if this contest gets approved. If you think I'm lying about this being the 3rd or 4th, then you can check the other recent contests.

Avator, some ppl wish for history to repeat itself so they could just slap themselves later.

4 minutes was way too long. To create an impressive cinematic, it could even took more than 1 months just for the 4 minutes.

The theme and it's description only mention the battle. That's all that matters if I may believe the description. That's why there's no official judging on everything else that's added to the cinematics. And we might have more entries right now compared to the previous ones, but I predict more will forfeit as well. I'll tell you out of experience of the previous cinematic contests: This will fail again because people don't know what they're starting and can't implement the theme correctly.

That's absolutely correct. It isn't just cinematic contest, many other contest had the same deja vu.

Infact, the only most successful contest I could ever think about is Speed Mapping Contest.

Anyway, what I am afraid the most is user who claim they have a free time and could join the contest. For example, some contestant could be free from xxx february till xxx march think they could join and manage to finish the cinematic in time, but forfeit because the contest begin at end of march.

This isn't happen once, but countless of time in every single map contest. Don't ever exclude this factor.

 

[Vengeancekael]

So i guess this contest is a no go?

 

[Midnighters]

Most likely.

 

[Vengeancekael]

Unless Garra works on the theme a bit.

 

[HappyCockroach]

Yeah, the theme is poor. Maybe something about rivality. A story where 2 characters are rivals. That can make possible many fights and such, and complex storylines

 

[Avator]

That's an excellent idea HC. It allows judging in both the storyline and a battle.

If anybody has another suggestion or thinks 'Rivalry' is a good theme, please post your opinions.

 

[Etzer]

I was actually going to enter but when i saw who i were coming in competition with i thought : "How will i ever win?" and didn't enter...

 

[Avator]

Never be scared of the competition. My first cinematic I ever made was in the Cinematic Contest #2. Yet, I became second place. So if you're willing to go for it and you got a good idea for an entry, you should go for it and try your best. If you're devoted and able to create a nice storyline, you have just as much chance to become first place as any other contestant (no matter how experienced they may be).

 

[Etzer]

Never be scared of the competition. My first cinematic I ever made was in the Cinematic Contest #2. Yet, I became second place. So if you're willing to go for it and you got a good idea for an entry, you should go for it and try your best. If you're devoted and able to create a nice storyline, you have just as much chance to become first place as any other contestant (no matter how experienced they may be).

Thanks, i'll give it a try then..

 

[Vengeancekael]

Well there could be a few sequences, where the 2 characters will stop fighting and talk again, then fight again and talk while fighting.... But that's still not acceptable. So maybe there could be an intro telling us a little about the story, that would make the cinematic longer.

 

[Avator]

That's exactly what the theme 'rivalry' includes. Besides a battle (which is by the way not necessary, but is allowed with that theme), you can create all the story you want.

If everybody could say if they like the idea of Rivalry as a theme, or if they have a better idea, it would be really useful for the contest. If there are multiple idea's, we can hold a poll in a new thread to determine the theme. But if there are already clearly enough people who agree with Rivalry, we will change this contest theme and create a new format. One with a new theme description, new rules and new points to judge on.

 

[HappyCockroach]

Well there could be a few sequences, where the 2 characters will stop fighting and talk again, then fight again and talk while fighting.... But that's still not acceptable. So maybe there could be an intro telling us a little about the story, that would make the cinematic longer.

C'mon, it is pretty acceptable. Just use some of your imagination, rivalry theme can output awesome cinematics.
The rivalry should be restricted to 2 characters? I don't think there is a problem about a rivalry between 3 or more.

 

[zt2211]

If this new theme of rivalry is accepted and is restricted to individuals, I'm out. Let it be duly noted, Garra.

 

[Narrat0r]

Let me see... this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXN2C_q65n0
Most epic and badass anime fight ever. Why can't 2D animation always be this awesome?

 

[Avator]

If this new theme of rivalry is accepted and is restricted to individuals, I'm out. Let it be duly noted, Garra.

Do you mean the rivals are individual persons? In that case: I don't see where you get that idea from. Rivalry is anything that opposes eachother, whether it's 2 people, 3 teams or 7 continents. It's the same theme as the 1 Gerra made up, except that people can actually work with this, the description can actually make sense, and there can be properly judged on more then just animations, SFX and music.

 

[Vengeancekael]

C'mon, it is pretty acceptable. Just use some of your imagination, rivalry theme can output awesome cinematics.
The rivalry should be restricted to 2 characters? I don't think there is a problem about a rivalry between 3 or more.

I didn't say it should be 2 players, that was just an example.^^

 

[RoboHippo]

Sounds pretty cool, actually. A short scene invoking a strong sense of conflict would be awesome.

I'm getting ideas...

 

[Red]

There's already a thread in here for another cinematic contest with a similar theme, but I think a mini-contest would be more doable for many people, and you'd end up with more than 2 or 3 final entries at the end. I'd support the idea of a mini contest over a normal contest any day. Good idea!

 

[Pyritie]

anyone still interested in this?

 

[Vengeancekael]

Not necessarily me, but seeing that it's just 2 minutes, then I suppose we will see more entries and it's summer, so more free time. I say do it and I'll judge if ya want, we haven't had any cinematic contests for some time now.
Edit: People could also make a cinematic with a small side story and then a battle of 2 minutes.

 

[Vengeancekael]

Maek this happen noa.
If this gets approved, then I'll join it.

 

[RoboHippo]

I'd probably join, if that means anything

 

[Lightskin]

I'll give it a shot, can I join?