Mimic

[Moderator]

18:21, 27th Oct 2008
Pyritie: Walk anim is weird. The model itself should be moving up and down, not forward and then suddenly appearing back. You also need a death sound event object.

31st Oct 2008
Pyritie: Need a decay anim.

7th Nov 2008
Pyritie: Changes made, resource approved.

 

[Infrisios]

Oooo finally a mimic
Checking ingame...

 

[Delaguthix]

I like it Ribenamania, I like it
makes me think of the mimic model in Dark Deeds and ive wanted a Mimic model ever since o.o

 

[Ribenamania]

I like it Ribenamania, I like it
makes me think of the mimic model in Dark Deeds and ive wanted a Mimic model ever since o.o

Did you tried it in game? Any bugs you've seen?
Please inform me if you found any, I would fix them.

 

[Aspard]

Okey, if u are so interested in someone's opinion, who tested it in game, I'll help you. I'm modeller/animator on my own, but talking about test in comparing with other models, I hope, I can make some comments.

The main thing, that I don't like, it's how he moves =( If you tried to illustrate some kind of jumping, you failed. On moving, the lower part of chest moves on the ground, and the higher part !Jumps out from whole chest model! and follow it. Did you try it in game yourself? And as for me, I think, that "Stand" animation mustn't have any movements, as from my past, they were very-very dangerous in Final Fantasy serie =) Because they looked like common treashure chests, and on coming up to them, they were starting to attack.

Don't think, that it's very objective answer, but I hope, u'll think about it somehow.

 

[Ribenamania]

Okey, if u are so interested in someone's opinion, who tested it in game, I'll help you. I'm modeller/animator on my own, but talking about test in comparing with other models, I hope, I can make some comments.

The main thing, that I don't like, it's how he moves =( If you tried to illustrate some kind of jumping, you failed. On moving, the lower part of chest moves on the ground, and the higher part !Jumps out from whole chest model! and follow it. Did you try it in game yourself? And as for me, I think, that "Stand" animation mustn't have any movements, as from my past, they were very-very dangerous in Final Fantasy serie =) Because they looked like common treashure chests, and on coming up to them, they were starting to attack.

Don't think, that it's very objective answer, but I hope, u'll think about it somehow.

xD, yeah I haven't tested this model in-game cuz my WE won't work in the cpu I'm using now. Btw, I'll fix the move animation.. As for the "Stand" animation, I think it's better than no movement since this model aren't based on Final Fantasy series but on Ragnarok Online. =) Thanks for the review.

EDIT: Remade "Walk" & "Death" animation

 

[MUHAHA_MASTER]

nice modell 4/5

 

[Avator]

I was just looking for a Mimic for my FF9 map! Thanks a lot

 

[Ribenamania]

Well, once again when Avator was posting.. I've updated the model.
Fixed some major animation bug. Still, the walk animation still has some bug that the body digs into the ground and comes out. I'll fix that ASAP.

Note: The best Art - Animation - Run/Walk Speed is 400 -> 500

 

[Ordworse]

Very good model!

 

[donut3.5]

You should fill it with gold and make it look like a real treasure chest.
--donut3.5--

 

[Ribenamania]

You should fill it with gold and make it look like a real treasure chest.
--donut3.5--

Mimic are treasure chest that are demon, not really needed to fill with gold.
Mostly mimic won't have gold in it. =)

 

[donut3.5]

True, I was just thinking so that in WC3, you really wouldn't be able to tell the difference until it attacked
--donut3.5--

 

[Avator]

Then you need to use a closed chest (or if there's a closed animation of this one, use that) and change to an open chest that attacks when you get nearby.

 

[x.Zeus]

nice... it can be useful...

 

[Devine]

Interesting idea. However i don't like the mesh. it's like a closed box with a lid on it :/.
also the walk animation sucks ... pretty badly. I'd suggest that in the stand animation you make it jump instead of making it flutter with its lid. I like the attack animation, however it gets a bit boring after a while ... so I'd suggest you make a second attack animation and the portrait sucks ... probably because there is no camera.

Not rated until improvement.

 

[Cham[p]ion]

Nice job!!

 

[somecrazyhobo]

this makes me think of the mimic from dark cloud

 

[Ribenamania]

Interesting idea. However i don't like the mesh. it's like a closed box with a lid on it :/.
also the walk animation sucks ... pretty badly. I'd suggest that in the stand animation you make it jump instead of making it flutter with its lid. I like the attack animation, however it gets a bit boring after a while ... so I'd suggest you make a second attack animation and the portrait sucks ... probably because there is no camera.

Not rated until improvement.

I'm actually fixing the walk animation, I'll put a camera for next update. =)

EDIT: Okay, all done.

 

[Direfury]

Wasn't this from Dark Cloud? Nice.

 

[Aspard]

As for me, it's playable enough now =) But maybe it will be better to make portrait-camera closer?

 

[Ribenamania]

As for me, it's playable enough now =) But maybe it will be better to make portrait-camera closer?

Okay, I've make the portrait camera closer. Enjoy! =)

~Ribenamania

 

[Lestat(br)]

Interesting idea. However i don't like the mesh. it's like a closed box with a lid on it :/.
also the walk animation sucks ... pretty badly. I'd suggest that in the stand animation you make it jump instead of making it flutter with its lid. I like the attack animation, however it gets a bit boring after a while ... so I'd suggest you make a second attack animation and the portrait sucks ... probably because there is no camera.

Not rated until improvement.

This animations are awesome, use as inspiration (by DevineArmy)

It should animate more lively to be a Mimic.
I don't like the 2-key movement you use. It looks pretty stiff.
I suggest you to animate it again with more keys and more detail.
Or maybe I do it for you, if you want to.

But it is useful! 3/5

 

[Ribenamania]

This animations are awesome, use as inspiration (by DevineArmy)

It should animate more lively to be a Mimic.
I don't like the 2-key movement you use. It looks pretty stiff.
I suggest you to animate it again with more keys and more detail.
Or maybe I do it for you, if you want to.

But it is useful! 3/5

L0l, my walk animation actually has 16 keyframes... has some bugs..
Fixing it right away~

 

[Lestat(br)]

I was kidding about those animations, they are worse than the one you have, but I can surely give you a help with animating. like I did in this sword I made, I will send it to you in Pastebin and you see what you think, and you can upload if you want to...

 

[Ribenamania]

I appreciate that you wanted to help.But anyway, I've fixed the keyframes.
=)

 

[Devine]

This animations are awesome, use as inspiration (by DevineArmy)

It should animate more lively to be a Mimic.
I don't like the 2-key movement you use. It looks pretty stiff.
I suggest you to animate it again with more keys and more detail.
Or maybe I do it for you, if you want to.

But it is useful! 3/5

LestatBR, you're lame. Nuff said. Stop with whining about those models.
Give me a break. Now go back to your own cool world and stay there, making some very cool models. You should know YOU animated with 3DSMAX. I animated with NOTETRACK.
Do you understand why my animations suck compaired to yours? Now do you? I think i was one of the first guys that made an animated model from scratch with OINKERWINKLE tools. Boasting about your model just makes you lame and pitifull. Now drop the subject and stop posting comments that directly offend me. I demand you delete that link. Now. Or i'll ask some moderator to do it for you.

Sorry that i had to spamm your thread with this but LestatBR offered me no choise.

Like Pyritie says in his review, your walk animation screws up because of the forward <-> backward movement.

You say you made changes but i can't view your model at the moment but i'll do so as soon as i can.

 

[Ribenamania]

Like Pyritie says in his review, your walk animation screws up because of the forward <-> backward movement.

It's already fix .. so .. =)

 

[Misha]

ON TOPIC: There was a Mimic in the "NOX" game xD how many of them are they? xD

 

[Devine]

It's already fix .. so .. =)

ah to bad i can't look at it at the moment. What animation program did you use? Notetrack or warforger or ...?

 

[Misha]

Good Smeagol, Nice Smeagol xD (to Devine)

You shouls make a gap for placind somethig inside (atachment) then it would be kewl

 

[Pyritie]

DevineArmy, stop trolling. I deleted your post and gave you some negrep. :/

 

[Devine]

DevineArmy, stop trolling. I deleted your post and gave you some negrep. :/

No problem. Now that the dude is banned i wont troll in a long long time.

 

[goldenkevin]

pretty model 4/5

 

[kimpakim7]

thought it were a mimic from dark cloud nice!

 

[Devine]

okey...
Because i still can't check out the ingame animations ...
i'll give a comment about something i just noticed ...
you should fix the wrap on the lock.

 

[Ribenamania]

okey...
Because i still can't check out the ingame animations ...
i'll give a comment about something i just noticed ...
you should fix the wrap on the lock.

The lock is the same as the treasure chest you use in Warcraft III, well you won't notice that in-game.

 

[Pyritie]

The lock is the same as the treasure chest you use in Warcraft III, well you won't notice that in-game.

That's no excuse.

 

[Devine]

That's no excuse.

indeed.
And you will notice it in the portrait if there would be a camera wich apperantly still isnt there.
The stand animation ... I think it's pretty bad ... it could be used as stand 2 but as a stand first, you should just make him jump .. or just make him stand on the ground. Also, your model still needs a decay bone or dissapate animation.

 

[Ribenamania]

indeed.
And you will notice it in the portrait if there would be a camera wich apperantly still isnt there.
The stand animation ... I think it's pretty bad ... it could be used as stand 2 but as a stand first, you should just make him jump .. or just make him stand on the ground. Also, your model still needs a decay bone or dissapate animation.

Well, actually I'm still not that good in animation. Btw, why must a mimic need decay bones.. it doesn't have any bones.. And also, warcraft III's treasure chest model's lock is the same wrap as this one.

 

[Devine]

Ribbenamania ...

it really needs a decay ... i think it's one of the rules (not quite sure) however the decay animation for this model would be really ... and i mean really easy to make.
It still needs a camera and just because blizzard made a dumb mistake ... your model shouldn't suffer from it.

If you want me to ... i could do the decay and the portrait really fast. If you don't know how ... and i'll show you how it would be done.

 

[Pyritie]

Well, actually I'm still not that good in animation. Btw, why must a mimic need decay bones.. it doesn't have any bones.. And also, warcraft III's treasure chest model's lock is the same wrap as this one.

You need a decay anim otherwise it'll just disappear after a while. That looks bad.

And add a camera, like DevineArmy said. (I completely forgot about that part )

 

[Ribenamania]

Ribbenamania ...

it really needs a decay ... i think it's one of the rules (not quite sure) however the decay animation for this model would be really ... and i mean really easy to make.
It still needs a camera and just because blizzard made a dumb mistake ... your model shouldn't suffer from it.

If you want me to ... i could do the decay and the portrait really fast. If you don't know how ... and i'll show you how it would be done.

I did put a camera.. didn't I, l0l maybe I remade the animation and forgot to put the camera. Well anyway, can you show me how do I make a decay animation for a model? I can't always call other people to make it for me.. need to learn too. So, can you show me/link me a tutorial or teach me step by step? =)

P/S: I wonder why THW set this kind of rules (unit models must has decay animation)
Even a mimic =.=

 

[varsaigen]

I think the chest needs to rock forward, jump in the air, and land on the back edge and return to a flat position for the walk anim, giving it a jumping effect... Just my opinion.

 

[Pyritie]

I did put a camera.. didn't I, l0l maybe I remade the animation and forgot to put the camera. Well anyway, can you show me how do I make a decay animation for a model? I can't always call other people to make it for me.. need to learn too. So, can you show me/link me a tutorial or teach me step by step? =)

P/S: I wonder why THW set this kind of rules (unit models must has decay animation)
Even a mimic =.=

At the end of the death anim, just wait a bit, then make it sink into the ground or something.

 

[Ribenamania]

How do I hide the model? Do I need decay bone and decay flesh... or just decay flesh.

 

[Pyritie]

Just decay flesh should be fine.

And if you just sink it into the ground WC3 will remove it for you when the decay flesh anim is done.

 

[Ribenamania]

Just decay flesh should be fine.

And if you just sink it into the ground WC3 will remove it for you when the decay flesh anim is done.

Wow.. that was easy, what animation tag for it?

 

[Pyritie]

Decay Flesh