memory error waygates

[[K40$]-Spectre]

Hi all,

When I added waygates (~40) to one of my big maps (~216 x ~216 terrain with 10 players) I get a memory fatal error after about playing ~2-3 minutes. It is when the AI want to build their structure I think. I suspect that waygates take some memory/RAM of the comp and so there is too little left for the AI, could this be possible?

I tried deleting all the critters, fog, doodads but that did not fix it. When I removed the waygates or 'tested' the map (so only me and 1 cpu played) the memory error did not occur.

What are your thoughts? (that are relevant to this post )

Error log

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Warcraft III (build 6401)

Exe: c:\warcraft 3\war3.exe
Time: Aug 24, 2013 2:44:47.343 PM
User: Skynet
Computer: Skynet-Defence-System
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This application has encountered a critical error:

FATAL ERROR!

Program: c:\warcraft 3\war3.exe
Exception: 0xC0000005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION) at 001B:6F3E0D43

The instruction at '0x6F3E0D43' referenced memory at '0x0000000C'.
The memory could not be 'read'.


War3Build: 1.26.0.6401
Played Maps\Skynet\SH\(10) SH v1.3 Island Deluxe.w3x
Player 0 WorldEdit Race Undead StartLoc 3
Player 1 Bionic AI Race Human StartLoc 7
Player 2 Bionic AI Race Human StartLoc 0
Player 3 Bionic AI Race Human StartLoc 1
Player 4 Infested AI Race Orc StartLoc 8
Player 5 Infested AI Race Orc StartLoc 9
Player 6 Infested AI Race Orc StartLoc 5
Player 7 Void Predators AI Race Undead StartLoc 2
Player 8 Void Predators AI Race Undead StartLoc 4
Player 9 Void Predators AI Race Undead StartLoc 6
Player 10 <Unused> Race Human StartLoc -1
Player 11 <Unused> Race Orc StartLoc -1
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x86 Registers
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EAX=00000000 EBX=00000000 ECX=00000000 EDX=6E776774 ESI=00000003
EDI=00000003 EBP=000FCE10 ESP=000FCDB0 EIP=6F3E0D43 FLG=00010246
CS =001B DS =0023 ES =0023 SS =0023 FS =003B GS =0000


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Stack Trace (Manual)
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Address Frame Logical addr Module

6F3E0D43 000FCE10 0001:003DFD43 c:\warcraft 3\Game.dll

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Stack Trace (Using DBGHELP.DLL)
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6F3E0D43 Game.dll <unknown symbol>+0 (0x000FCE40,0x00000003,0x6F2DF420,0x000FCF9C)
6F2DF61C Game.dll <unknown symbol>+0 (0x00000000,0x00000000,0x00000000,0x00000000)


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Loaded Modules
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0x00350000 - 0x00359000 Normaliz.dll
0x00400000 - 0x0047D000 war3.exe
0x00480000 - 0x005B4000 urlmon.dll
0x02D60000 - 0x03025000 xpsp2res.dll
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0x5D090000 - 0x5D12A000 COMCTL32.dll
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0x60000000 - 0x6005D000 ijl15.dll
0x605D0000 - 0x605D9000 mslbui.dll
0x68000000 - 0x68036000 rsaenh.dll
0x68B20000 - 0x68B40000 GLU32.dll
0x6D990000 - 0x6D996000 d3d8thk.dll
0x6D9A0000 - 0x6DAC8000 d3d8.dll
0x6F000000 - 0x6FBB5000 Game.dll
0x71A50000 - 0x71A8F000 mswsock.dll
0x71AA0000 - 0x71AA8000 WS2HELP.dll
0x71AB0000 - 0x71AC7000 WS2_32.dll
0x71AD0000 - 0x71AD9000 WSOCK32.dll
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0x73760000 - 0x737AB000 DDRAW.dll
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0x755C0000 - 0x755EE000 msctfime.ime
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0x76F60000 - 0x76F8C000 WLDAP32.dll
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0x77120000 - 0x771AB000 OLEAUT32.dll
0x773D0000 - 0x774D3000 comctl32.dll
0x774E0000 - 0x7761E000 ole32.dll
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0x78130000 - 0x781CB000 MSVCR80.dll
0x7C800000 - 0x7C8F6000 kernel32.dll
0x7C900000 - 0x7C9B2000 ntdll.dll
0x7C9C0000 - 0x7D1D7000 SHELL32.dll
0x7E410000 - 0x7E4A1000 USER32.dll


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Memory Dump
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Code: 16 bytes starting at (EIP = 6F3E0D43)

6F3E0D43: 8B 53 0C 85 FF 0F 94 C0 33 C9 83 FF 02 0F 94 C1 .S......3.......


Stack: 1024 bytes starting at (ESP = 000FCDB0)

* = addr ** *
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[Malhorne]

Maybe it use the same place as the AI place :/
Otherwise trigger the waygate

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

Thanks for the fast reply Malhorne,

Maybe it use the same place as the AI place :/
Otherwise trigger the waygate

, the waygates are fairly close to the player bases, but I think they did not enter them yet.

Problem with triggering is that the AI will not use them intelligently I think.

What if I reduce the amount of Waygates to ~20? I will try that and add some shallow water to replace those removed waygates.

 

[Malhorne]

You're welcome for the answer...
I think 20 will not lag.
But i didn't know that many waygate can take place in AI, with your problem i think we cn admit it xD

EDIT : That's true that AI won't use them if they are triggered.

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

You're welcome for the answer...
I think 20 will not lag.
But i didn't know that many waygate can take place in AI, with your problem i think we cn admit it xD

EDIT : That's true that AI won't use them if they are triggered.

, hmm I just tried 20 and it still crashed (added an error log in my first post). Maybe there needs to be a big enough range between the AI bases and Waygates.

 

[Xonok]

, hmm I just tried 20 and it still crashed (added an error log in my first post). Maybe there needs to be a big enough range between the AI bases and Waygates.

Are you absolutely sure that the problem is in waygates and not triggers? I've never encountered crashes from melee waygates(only from triggered versions of them, due to looping)

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

Are you absolutely sure that the problem is in waygates and not triggers? I've never encountered crashes from melee waygates(only from triggered versions of them, due to looping)

, don't know exactly since I use custom AI (from AI editor) instead of melee AI. However now that I have removed the ones that are close near their bases I get no memory crash. I will now try to position the closer waygates a bit futher away and see if that still works.

 

[Malhorne]

Waygate close to starting points are crashing ?

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

Waygate close to starting points are crashing ?

, yes they trigger the crash apperently.

I have now positioned them a bit futher away from the starting locations and the problem seems to be solved I think.

anyway +rep

-edit, I stilll got a memory error but much later on. After the computers already attacked several times (/ used the waygates) so I think it is not an infinite loop, but maybe it is too heavy Waygates with 10 custom AI?? Or maybe the regions for the waygates (where the units teleport too) are too small or something like that.

 

[Dr Super Good]

I suspect that waygates take some memory/RAM of the comp and so there is too little left for the AI, could this be possible?

Completely impossible.

If it is a Out of Memory error then some infinite loop causes the game to crash by allocating structures infinitely until all allocate-able virtual memory address space is used. In modern computers this is a process size of 4GB or if the page-file is full. 64 bit OS does not change this as the Wc3 process is still only 32bit compiled.

If it is a segmentation fault (or "program tried to reference memory at X, the memory could not be read") then some logic error has occurred resulting in the program trying to manipulate memory at a page that does not support that type of manipulation. Most common is a "dereference null pointer" error which results in the game process trying to write some value to read-only program memory pages around address 0.

What could be happening is the AI tries to path to attack you using the waygates but never finds a route. It keeps going in an infinite loop between waygates searching for a path. Eventually the search becomes so complex that the process runs out of memory trying to retain the state information.

I advise turning all AI off and seeing if the crash happens. If it still happens you can rule out AI. It might also be caused by the AI building something near a waygate that should not be built (as the AI does not comply to standard interface interaction rules, such as using abilities in a spell book that players cannot open). It could also be a object editor bug, as setting some fields to certain values is known to cause fatal errors.

 

[jonhysone]

it may be a lack of triggers . There are some triggers that have a relationship with these triggers. otherwise...

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

-edit, I moved some waygates a bit futher away from some expansion spots & played for ~1/1,5 hour and got no memory crash so far (with 9 cpu players). It is probably stable now. Thanks guys!


Thanks for the comments guys, really helps;

@Dr Super Good, wow you know a lot about memory.

What could be happening is the AI tries to path to attack you using the waygates but never finds a route. It keeps going in an infinite loop between waygates searching for a path. Eventually the search becomes so complex that the process runs out of memory trying to retain the state information.

, that is quite possible I think. Since if it decides to attack from its main base to someone elses main base it needs to go through 2 waygates (/passing 4 waygates) which do not have a very wide terrain path. Maybe I should give them a bit more space than.

It could also be a object editor bug, as setting some fields to certain values is known to cause fatal errors.

, I have set the pathing/collision of the Waygate to nothing (to be able to place them on shallow water). Nothing else really that matters I think. I only have it in this map (it is part of a series of maps for my Starcraft Hybrids project) and in the other maps I did not have a memory error yet (where one had no Waygates and one had only 4 Waygates in total).

t may be a lack of triggers . There are some triggers that have a relationship with these triggers. otherwise...

, what do you mean by a lack of triggers? The Waygates are not triggered (just standard with preplaced regions in the map).