Megalith Rebirth

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Date: 2012/Jun/20 22:02:16

Comment: [Approved]
Updated, approved.

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19:27, 19th Jun 2010
VGsatomi: This used to be a Director's Choice map at Search way back when. Still one of the best terrained AOS maps out there. Rejected until updated

 

[BlackCat500]

Even if it worked. I'm sorry to say, but whenever I see a map with a description that barely even tells me what the map is about and what makes it so special, or what doesn't make it special, I often don't even care to download them. Screenshots are always a nice addition to the description of a map to see the visuals of the map.
Judging by the description given by you that I'm reading today (21.02.2010) all I get to know that he map is supposed to be better than the dotas and dota clones, as for why, I don't know. I don't even know if you mean the old or now dotas, as you mention that the map probably doesn't function above 1.18, which is far in the past. The only thing you did mention is that there was a system similar to that of dota just with a few changes, which doesn't give me any idea about if it's better or not, or in fact even interesting. Well, sorry for ranting, I'm just giving you a hint on what to improve.

 

[meatfactory]

I added 2 videos of the map in the description they should be enough to describe it think ;]

Gives fatal error after i select the map...

Yes the same is with me in the older version of wc I had there was no problems I believe this error is caused by the text (font) but I am not sure how that messes with the game version.

 

[Darkey]

I remember this map, it's way freaking better than DotA in terms of terrain and creativity. Only thing that holds this map back a bit is the heroes, they're definitely not bad, but some more wouldn't hurt.

*EDIT*

It could also use some more items. ;P

 

[bok]

I watched the first youtube vid, the terrain is seriously awesome

 

[Glica]

The map preview looks good enough for players to download it :O, in my opinion.

 

[Nudl9]

After looking at the previews, i dont think you have any idea of what gameplay is and how crucial it is to make a map fun to play.

 

[meatfactory]

After looking at the previews, i dont think you have any idea of what gameplay is and how crucial it is to make a map fun to play.

Really? Enlighten me then... what is gameplay?

 

[arphax214]

Apparently the creator lost the unprotected map in a format a few months ago, so he can't update it to work with the latest patch :\

omg this is bad..then why not just deprotect it?

 

[Mike7742]

I was thinking something along those lines as well. Though I'm not really sure as to how well that works, I know its possible.

 

[Archael7]

Wow, people still talk about this map!

Hello VG, and hello new users! I'm the author of Megalith. It was a spare-time hobby project of mine during my 1st year of college. This seems like AGES ago!

I'm also the owner of the youtube account http://www.youtube.com/user/Archael7 which uploaded those content videos as a little memorabilia of this map I worked on so long ago.

I remember when this won Director's Choice on wc3sear.ch long ago, awarded by VGsatomi, it was a great honor.

Unfortunately, I did lose the original unprotected file a long time ago (99% sure of this, though it's possible it exists in some backup somewhere, out there.)

I am not sure if it is possible to properly open the latest file (which is protected, people cannibalized maps like crazy back then and protection was very common after the whole DOTA > Allstars fiasco). If WC3 TFT methods have evolved since then and it is possible to still open and salvage this type of map, I would be happy to update it for the newest TFT patch. I know one of the recent patches broke a ton of things people used and made Megalith and other maps unplayable.

You may reach me on that youtube account or on my website, www.insanedifficulty.com

Thanks for the memories guys, and let me know of any good news.

Worst case scenario, I've considered working on a new mapping project on the SC2 Engine, but am wary because of the way Blizzard will update the game with HOTS and then again with LOTV a year after that. Adds alot of potential to break existing maps.

 

[Vengeancekael]

Thread cleaned and map re-approved. This map now works.

 

[Fingolfin]

I remember this one, best AoS i ever played. I used to love the hero with the cenarius model, where each ability enhances your attack with an elemental effect.. like a fire element would cause meteors to crash on the enemy every time you hit them. And then you stack them all at once >

 

[meatfactory]

I remember this one, best AoS i ever played. I used to love the hero with the cenarius model, where each ability enhances your attack with an elemental effect.. like a fire element would cause meteors to crash on the enemy every time you hit them. And then you stack them all at once >

Some of the skills of the heroes have been changed more or less... and the one you are referring to "Doyen of Lore" has his skills changed entirely.

 

[Sliph-M]

Need more items...
But I Like this map, Good job!

 

[Archael7]

Hello all! I am the original author of this map (Started working on it around 2005 IIRC) and I created the small Youtube previews of the older, non-Bnet-functioning versions.

Meatfactory has been kind enough to take the time to use his skills to fix the map up and re-release it so that it is playable on Battle.net once again, so HUGE credit goes to him. I have been out of the WC3 Modding scene for YEARS so without him it would be impossible to play this map online today.

Enjoy

 

[Arrr]

Really enjoyed playing this.. if only there could have been more items, that would have been simply awesome

 

[wolfikun]

epic win bro I liked the map and my friends did too we played this for about 9 hours this is something worth comparing to dota... LoL and Hon can't compare to such amazing game hope this becomes a director's cut

 

[JesusHipster]

This used to be an essence of pure awesomeness.

 

[Diamur]

One of the greatest maps!!!
There are no neutral creeps?( After using "ulmaguest", "Blashyrk Assassin" has a blue tint.

 

[meatfactory]

One of the greatest maps!!!
There are no neutral creeps?( After using "ulmaguest", "Blashyrk Assassin" has a blue tint.

Yep the creeps along with some other thing will be added / fixed in the update thats coming.

 

[LordDz]

Is it possible to turn off the third person view? I've never liked those in wc3.

 

[meatfactory]

Is it possible to turn off the third person view? I've never liked those in wc3.

Well yes of course ... to switch between 3rd person and standart WC3 view just press Esc key. There are 3 camera modes one is the standard top view, and two 3rd person views.

 

[Narrat0r]

A new Megalith map?
HOW DID I NOT KNOW OF THIS FOR 2 YEARS?!

 

[Arisato]

same here, this map was awesome back then.

 

[wolfikun]

hoooooray I hope you keep on updating this game as like it will never be finish like what mark zuckerberg said the facebook will never be finish I hope it goes the same to this map thanks again

 

[Kgg123]

Really nice Map like a bit Dota

Terrain [+]
Spells [+]
Idea [0]
Custom [0]
Weapons & Armor [-]
Fun [+]

7/10 I like the Map =)

 

[Mgeterno11]

I have just played this map and i think it is creative and cool. First of all, the loading screen looks awesome.

Terrain

It is nice, a perfect terrain for an AoS map. The paths are wide enough, i like the variation of tilesets, doodads. However, to some places you should place more doodads, and place some rocks, etc. 5/5

Heroes

These have cool abilities, and the model files are nice, however, i think you should import custom things for all models, e.g. skins and models. i like their stats, too. 5/5

Gameplay

It has a lot of fun, i like the maps where you have to fight with a hero and kill enemies and their towers, and finally the main base to win. I am satisfied with the quests and the orbs which you can collect. However, i miss some things, these are creeps and custom final bosses which give you legendary items. 4/5

Items

I like the item recipes, and the other items, too, and especially the extended inventory system. How did you make that? However, i think you should import some custom icons for the recipe items and i think there should be more items, e.g. weapons, armors, and more hitpoint increasers. 4/5

Conclusion

I think it is a creative map with cool gameplay, but please do the think which i and the other people mentioned. Good luck. I rate this map 5/5 and +rep.

 

[Denny]

It crashes everytime I select a skill for a hero. Not just one hero, any hero it crashes.

 

[meatfactory]

It crashes everytime I select a skill for a hero. Not just one hero, any hero it crashes.

What version of the game are you running on?

 

[nGy]

I like this alot. The visuals are really awesome. I have only really played the wyrm maiden and i must say, I really like the concept, but the execution doesn't work that well for an AoS map. My main problem was the last hitting, as you can't really control the wyrm and thus it's near impossible to get those last hits.

 

[T. D. W.]

I just played this map, even if it a bit old, but seriously, how in the world did it get a 5/5 on both users and mod....
The map is too big, it takes too much time to travel it
There are not enough items and the idea of the spirit charms in not a gd one in my opinion
Too big buildings/trees etc..., i got lost in them, and lost the units with me + the map is big
Heroes are created for players automatically (AI) while i didn't add any computer players (Very bad thing)
Balanced but it leaks of excitement, when you kill a hero, an orb comes out (Yeeee > a hero has fallengame takes too much time to complete the game
Heroes are not powerfull, they are like creeps...
akhhh,, i don't want to continue >:

Rating:
Heroes : 1/1
Items: 0/1
Terrain: 0/1
Gameplay: 0/1
Overall Gaming: 0/1
Total Score:
1/5

 

[meatfactory]

I just played this map, even if it a bit old, but seriously, how in the world did it get a 5/5 on both users and mod....
The map is too big, it takes too much time to travel it
There are not enough items and the idea of the spirit charms in not a gd one in my opinion
Too big buildings/trees etc..., i got lost in them, and lost the units with me + the map is big
Heroes are created for players automatically (AI) while i didn't add any computer players (Very bad thing)
Balanced but it leaks of excitement, when you kill a hero, an orb comes out (Yeeee > a hero has fallengame takes too much time to complete the game
Heroes are not powerfull, they are like creeps...
akhhh,, i don't want to continue >:

Rating:
Heroes : 1/1
Items: 0/1
Terrain: 0/1
Gameplay: 0/1
Overall Gaming: 0/1
Total Score:
1/5

Feel free to hate on the resource

 

[RED BARON]

Feel free to hate on the resource

Even more so, as others (me for instance ) disagree with him. Nice work.

 

[meatfactory]

Even more so, as others (me for instance ) disagree with him. Nice work.

Thanks but most credit goes to archael in the first place. Also there will be an update soon.

 

[RED BARON]

Thanks but most credit goes to archael in the first place. Also there will be an update soon.

I know And I been looking by his site to perhaps entice him to come back to Hive for a little But still your doing a good job as well.

 

[meatfactory]

Credits section will be updated soon.

 

[FUJI]

I've liked this map and really awesome!!

 

[Velrog]

Guys, there's a problem with the map I encountered. The Ent warriors for the Aesyr do not get built. They only start and remain at 100hp wihle the Morkefolk Ents start growth, finish it and run to fight. Can the uploader please try to fix this if he can? Thanks in advance.

 

[meatfactory]

Guys, there's a problem with the map I encountered. The Ent warriors for the Aesyr do not get built. They only start and remain at 100hp wihle the Morkefolk Ents start growth, finish it and run to fight. Can the uploader please try to fix this if he can? Thanks in advance.

Do you mean in the treefolk - if yes the problem you are describing is ... how can it stop building ... it's regular night elf construction the wisp would have to go out from the building while in construction in order for it to stop the progress or maybe had to be paused. I will check it out but that sounds very strange.

Edit: I found what the reason is... and fixed it.

 

[sammath]

Nice map, like the idea of the treefolk fourth line, the secret areas with secret ventors too. I've have to play again because can't find the man in quest to complete, and maybe the way to go to the south islands.
4/5

 

[meatfactory]

Nice map, like the idea of the treefolk fourth line, the secret areas with secret ventors too. I've have to play again because can't find the man in quest to complete, and maybe the way to go to the south islands.
4/5

You get to the "south island" or Valion Isle as it's named with by teleport purchased from an npc called Baal which is located near the invisible force bridge between the center and right line of the map. Just look around you will find all your looking for.

 

[Velrog]

Theoden: Forth! And fear no darkness! ARISE! Arise riders of Theoden! Spears shall be shaken! Shields shall be splintered!...
And the rest you know it

P.S. Thanks for fixing the bug. Mind if i ask what was causing it?

 

[meatfactory]

Theoden: Forth! And fear no darkness! ARISE! Arise riders of Theoden! Spears shall be shaken! Shields shall be splintered!...
And the rest you know it

P.S. Thanks for fixing the bug. Mind if i ask what was causing it?

Well as I tried to make the unit tree in the editor more orderly so I changed the races on some units, but I forgot that by doing that I also changed the way buildings are constructed and so the Aesyr's treefolk guardian was human structure and the Morkefolk's was a undead (now back to being Nightelf). The first time you submitted the bug actually I didn't test it cause I really never took a look at it until recently and noticed what you described so +rep for that.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Gloomheart's Obscurity tooltip doesn't mention that it does damage to enemies. It also crashed the game when I was trying to kill Lascivia with it (after repeated uses).

There should be a counter to tell you how many kills are left for the blood pact quest.

 

[meatfactory]

Gloomheart's Obscurity tooltip doesn't mention that it does damage to enemies. It also crashed the game when I was trying to kill Lascivia with it (after repeated uses).

There should be a counter to tell you how many kills are left for the blood pact quest.

I will check out the problem with the item, but about the counter, I'm wondering how to implement that in a non-annoying type of way. If I make it as a text massage (even a short time displayed one) it seems rather spammy. If I make it as an item it would take place in inventory. Floating text above the hero, via command check? I would appreciate some ideas.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Maybe put it with a leaderboard in parentheses as a countdown, or create a new quest in the quest menu?

Also, the Soul Stone only seems to count kills made by the hero attacking instead of spells (again, this is with Obscurity, I'll have to try with other heroes).

You can hire the other side's siege engines when in their base.

The Town Portal scrolls don't work (it starts, then tells you "A unit could not be teleported", and leaves you with the cooldown.

Tried it with Surtur. When he dies, he respawns without the tree, and his damage box shows up empty. Also, I was level 9, had 86 kills on the soul stone, but it never said "quest completed" for the Blood Alliance.

 

[meatfactory]

Maybe put it with a leaderboard in parentheses as a countdown, or create a new quest in the quest menu?

Also, the Soul Stone only seems to count kills made by the hero attacking instead of spells (again, this is with Obscurity, I'll have to try with other heroes).

You can hire the other side's siege engines when in their base.

The Town Portal scrolls don't work (it starts, then tells you "A unit could not be teleported", and leaves you with the cooldown.

Tried it with Surtur. When he dies, he respawns without the tree, and his damage box shows up empty. Also, I was level 9, had 86 kills on the soul stone, but it never said "quest completed" for the Blood Alliance.

Ok I fixed the bugs you mentioned, but I'm going to wait till I make all the changes I want like update for the leaderbord and some new items *and then upload the new version*.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Wyrm Maiden: Frost wyrm kills don't count towards the Soul Stone counter.

Empowering Runes drops are weird, sometimes there's one for nearly every creep, sometimes I go through the game without seeing a single one.