Mastermind Tank System V1.20

[Moderator]

14:50, 28th Jun 2011
Maker:
Last created hashtable:

• (Load 7777 of (Key Temp_UnitID) from (Last created hashtable)) Equal to 8

Temp_UnitID should be an integer.

Maker, v1.20, 14.07.2011
Changes made, approved.

 

[Archangel678]

Didn't see any leaks.

I game began to lagg when the tanks were taking over several units. Probably the nature of the ability.

I'd suggest creating fewer effects, as it a real game with many units it can cause heavy lagg.

Also, in RA2 the tank could run over troops and kill 'em. Perhaps you could add that?

 

[Tank-Commander]

I would be able to reduce the lag from the sfx, but I'd require the creation of a specific missile with Ribbon effects to create the tail to be able to do it, however sinse this is not available at the current time, it's unavoidable without making the effect look terrible, as for running over, that was a game mechanic more than an ability, and can be done using immoliation alone, thus I don't think it'd be appropriate to add.

The lag though is purely caused by the amount of sfx on my computer I do not notice the effect of it when I control 20-30 units with a single mastermind tank

 

[maddeem]

I could have sworn that the mastermind was a tank with a giant brain on it... Though, I could be wrong. Also, if the sfx is lagging it just use lightning

 

[Tank-Commander]

It was created to fit the spec misha requested P=
it originally had Lightning sfx, but it didn't fit/misha didn't want it/at long ranges it came all over the place (if you stretch lightning effects you'll see what I mean)

 

[Axarion]

Hmm maybe add an ability to free all units. It kinda sucks if you control 4 units and see your Mastermind die slowly without having a chance to do anything against it.

 

[Maker]

You could use variables, store both of these and use them instead of calling GetEnumUnit() and GetHandleId() functions repeatedly.

• Set unit = (Picked unit)
• Custom script: set udg_ID = GetHandleId(udg_unit)

Loading stuff:

• Set Temp_Point[1] = (Position of (Load 2 of ID in Mind_Control_Hash))

Whoopsie:

• (Load 7777 of (Key (Picked unit)) from (Last created hashtable)) Equal to 8

• If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
  • If - Conditions
    • And - All (Conditions) are true
      • Conditions
        • (Load 10 of (Key Mastermind_Tank) from Mind_Control_Hash) Greater than Config[2]
        • (Load 50 of (Key Mastermind_Tank) from Mind_Control_Hash) Equal to 0.00

->

• If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
  • If - Conditions
    • (Load 10 of (Key Mastermind_Tank) from Mind_Control_Hash) Greater than Config[2]
    • (Load 50 of (Key Mastermind_Tank) from Mind_Control_Hash) Equal to 0.00

This won't save "null" as the unit, the unit's handle will still remain there:

• Hashtable - Save Handle OfNo unit as 2 of (Key (Picked unit)) in Mind_Control_Hash

 

[Misha]

Ah, nice to finally release this

Also, in RA2 the tank could run over troops and kill 'em. Perhaps you could add that?

mastermind tank in Yuri's Revenge would go around even an attack dog XD you mixed it up with other tanks that mow down all near them

I could have sworn that the mastermind was a tank with a giant brain on it...

yes, that is true, but concept, my model hides the brain under the TC dome, as the original YR unit looks

Hmm maybe add an ability to free all units. It kinda sucks if you control 4 units and see your Mastermind die slowly without having a chance to do anything against it.

In YR, Masterminds die when overloaded unless you send your units to be killed

EDIT: Mind removing the "mastermind presence" altogether? it lags and obstructs the vision of my model, lol ^^
EDIT2: if not, then at least remove the "aura"

 

[88WaRCraFT3]

fail ... 5/5 for this, i had same idea to do, and i was finishing it :d
EDIT: After long testing, map gets serious FPS Drop, and if anyone wants to make army of tanks, that would cause huge fps dropping, idea is great, but method isn't best, + bow doesn't works when tank or units are moving. But all in all gj again

 

[Misha]

looks a lot better now

hope you find that long-tail- TG_ribbon missile, with no sound while launching and dying

 

[Bribe]

"Setup" trigger should be a Map Initialization event.

Temp_Group - This shouldn't be an array but rather a single variable for each Temp_Group[1/2/3] ... or even better, skip the Temp_Group and use the custom script "set bj_wantDestroyGroup = true"

 

[88WaRCraFT3]

it looks better, now only to fix when the mastermind tank is moving

 

[Misha]

it looks better, now only to fix when the mastermind tank is moving

Mind telling what problem is when it's moving? triggers or my model?

 

[88WaRCraFT3]

well, triggers, i think there is no solution because you have to move units to tank, and old projectiles still moves from where they was.

 

[Misha]

well, triggers, i think there is no solution because you have to move units to tank, and old projectiles still moves from where they was.

i wish there was some.. continuous-beam-missile that's like.. still..

 

[clockwork2]

nice looking from the picture.

 

[dangles20]

Nice i see it's nothing like it now, nice spell though it is exactly like the mastermind tank.

edit: i think i found a bug randomly a dummy will attack another mastermind without taking it over, also if i control 4 units force kill 1 the mastermind still takes damage every second or two, you might want to check this.

 

[Tank-Commander]

Upon uploading and approval of the system, neither of those bugs existed, I'd assume map corruption from being old, that or there's some really special cercumstances when that happens.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Excellently-made, and I love a good over-powered master race Red Alert 2 reference. Masterminds were one of my favorite units. One question; may I edit this for my personal uses? I would love to implement this somewhere cool, but need to modify a couple of things.

I, too, ran into the issue described by Dangles20; once my Mastermind goes above 3 Mind-Controlled Targets, it takes damage from that point on until it dies (i.e. even killing off the extra ones doesn't stop it). This would be more of a problem for me, but I personally won't be using that aspect of it (if I have permission to edit).

Also, I think I'm going to quote this thread and Request an SFX for it; just too good/lag-saving/important to go without.

Again, good job, and thanks.

 

[Tank-Commander]

Certainly, you have permission to edit so long as this is credited and linked (if the map resource is on another site), and the new version is not redistributed as a new resource - I believe getting an appropriate ribbon effect model was attempted before but nobody took it up, but yes I agree with you whole-heartedly about it being lag saving, though I myself due to this being old have forgotten how you control the projectile frequency and such, I believe it's an attack from a dummy unit - can't remember if I ever made that attack homing or if there was some reason why I didn't, goodluck eitherway.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Certainly, you have permission to edit so long as this is credited and linked (if the map resource is on another site), and the new version is not redistributed as a new resource - I believe getting an appropriate ribbon effect model was attempted before but nobody took it up, but yes I agree with you whole-heartedly about it being lag saving, though I myself due to this being old have forgotten how you control the projectile frequency and such, I believe it's an attack from a dummy unit - can't remember if I ever made that attack homing or if there was some reason why I didn't, goodluck eitherway.

Schweet! Thanks.

I'll have to see about that Ribbon. And yes, it appears you just used a Dummy Attacker with uber-Attack-Speed and that purple-arrow model to make an connected line... Once I get the ribbon, it shouldn't be an issue to make the attack speed much lower, to match the Tank's speed.

Actually, the way I'll be using it, a lot of my problems are already solved; as a "Mastermind Ward" for a Trollish hero, it can't move (just the target can), and it can't die (Ultimate ability), so the Overload damage not going away isn't an issue.

I'll let you know how this pans out. Thanks again!

 

[Kam]

It would be useful if there was a maximum range and maximum number of units controlled (as in it can only be used on X units at a time) in addition to the max units before damage.

 

[Kyrbi0]

I am absolutely flabbergasted to realize my last post in this topic (& ostensibly the last time I thought about using this) was 4 years ago.

Here we are, then. I've finally (re)downloaded it, imported it into my map, did all the troubleshooting (it replaced all the instances of Dummy Attackers & Mind Control abilities with already-existing custom units/abilities in my map, lol)... And it works. It's great! I plan on doing the 'streamer missile' thing (though I'm still trying to decipher that section of the code, trying to make sure I don't break it; is there a reason the Dummy Attacker exists for 0.80 seconds?), but overall I'm pleased.

There is one thing, however:

It would be useful if there was a maximum range and maximum number of units controlled (as in it can only be used on X units at a time) in addition to the max units before damage.

I guess I just assumed that's what the Config variable in the Setup trigger was for... Unfortunately it's not. I cannot figure out how to hard-limit the number of mind-controlled units; for the purpose I am working towards, a stationary but destructible (don't know why 4-years-ago-Kyrbi0 thought it wasn't; it should be tough but destructible (well, wait, it is an Ultimate, maybe that's why...)) Ward that should only be able to mind control a certain number of target enemy units.

Unfortunately as it is, this 'Mind Control Ward' will simply keep snapping up nearby enemies. Whether or not it can die is besides the point.

Any help?

@Tank-Commander

 

[Tank-Commander]

The code was original built to specification which didn't have a hard limit for the mind controlled unit count - only a limit by which controlling more would deal damage, you'd have to add your own configurable for it and then when the code -would- add a new target compare it with the current number and if it's reached the max, don't add it pretty much only requires adding the configurable and an if-then-else, or additional condition when adding the targets

 

[Kyrbi0]

The code was original built to specification which didn't have a hard limit for the mind controlled unit count - only a limit by which controlling more would deal damage, you'd have to add your own configurable for it and then when the code -would- add a new target compare it with the current number and if it's reached the max, don't add it pretty much only requires adding the configurable and an if-then-else, or additional condition when adding the targets

I'm gonna sit down for several minutes & try to parse this, but in the mean-time, I should ask the primary question: "How willing would you be to making those changes?" : )