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Making of a Hero v1.5

Submitted by Legal_Ease
This bundle is marked as approved. It works and satisfies the submission rules.


Hero in the Making

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Gameplay
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Choose from eight races:
Orc, Dark Troll, Goblin, Night Elf, Ogre,
Naga, Pandaren, or Human.

Start as a worker.
Build a camp.
Transform into you choice of low level warrior.
Kill a critter to capture it. Train your new pet.
Critters can transform as well.


Examples:
Pig becomes Quillbeast
which becomes Quillboar
with option to become Tauren.
Skink becomes Dragonspawns
and eventually the Pit Lord.

Attack a creep camp.
Pillage gold.
Destroy the creep's structure to make it your own.
This increases food supply.
Transform into your choice of more powerful warriors.
Raid more camps.
Become a hero.
Defeat the Dwarf King.
Hold the mountain summit
for 100 seconds to WIN!


Features

Eight Players. All MUI GUI triggers. Four UIs.
The_Flood's 3rd Person Camera System.

Pleasant terrain loaded with 3D sounds.

Barbarian Knock Back and Repel,
Meat Hook, and Panda Roll (& spell pack)
to really shake things up.


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NEW!
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changelog
1. Fixed troll hut gold cost.
2. Orc High Warlock damage fixed / nerfed
3. Item table adjusted
4. Ogre Warlord now a new hero with new abilities.

NOW ENTERS: Icemanbo

5. NEW CAMERA buttons to turn on and off Hero Cam.
6. NEW Better Looking MultiBoard
7. FIXED bug with jumping to the mountain peek.
8. FIXED food issue.
Thanks to
ICEMANBO for this update!

9. Grom Hellscream morph animation added.
10. Max Hero Level increased to 20 and attribute bonus added.


v1.5

11. Fixed gold/lumber exchange at the mill
12. Fixed goblin blaster inventory
13. Fixed resurrection to raise Arthas upon death



Keywords:
Hero, Mutation, Goblin, Troll, Dwarf, King of the Hill, Ogre, Pandaren, Transform, Naga.
Contents

Making of a Hero v1.5 (Map)

Reviews
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16:25, 5th Nov 2013 Orcnet: Reviewed:
  1. 16:25, 5th Nov 2013
    Orcnet: Reviewed:
     
  2. Legal_Ease

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    New
    See changlog for latest updates.

    Custom UIs added - See Panda, Sunken Ruins and Goblin.
     

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  3. Daffa the Mage

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    Nice, better review this one later.
     
  4. Hell_Master

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    The Hive Workshop Official
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    Map Reviewer: Hell_Master
    Map Name: Making of a Hero
    Map Author: Legal_Ease


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    Originality


    A somewhat unque type of game type. What I like in this game is that you choose on what way your unit grows and become a hero though I do think some maps attempted this and is successful but there are just few of them so I can still considered this somewhat on a level of unique. And what's more is that you can have critters as your pet which also becomes a hero same as your main unit.

    Score: 77/100

    Presentation


    A very clean and original presentation. It contains all the possible informations needed and is followed with Features, Screesnhots which is also appealing and Credits. You also made your own template and it is great in form. You have your originalities. This deserves a perfect score to be honest!

    Score: 100/100

    Design


    Everything looks fine. Minimap Preview Image fits and is attractive though could also use a Loading Screen. Quest Menu is organized, all icons are seem to be working and no green icons and descriptions seems well though some parts could still be improved.

    Score: 61/100

    Terrain


    Terrain is decent but actually it is really empty though its good that its not flat. Also, trees should have different scaling sizes and big differences on Min and Max Value. It makes it more realistic! Also, the terrain could still be improved alot. Be creative and also use those Special Effects to your advantage, you can make them and modiy them to be a doodads. There are lots of possibilities for this to improve honestly.

    Score: 63/100

    Triggers


    Triggers are organized and looks good. Everything seems to be working and not to be bugging which affects much of the game. All I can say good job. Not much to judge on triggering.

    Score: 80/100

    Object Data


    Once again, everything looks fine. Nothing wrong and everything is fresh. No improper units or units scaling size, no improper or unfitting sounds though some errors in-game (but not sure or not yet confirmed if it is an error)

    Score: 61/100

    Gameplay


    Game could be good though why is it that when I used Orc then upgraded into Grunt, I planned to upgrade into Rider or whatever you call it but it requires 3 food but I have 3/4 food and there is no such way I can increase it a value. Is this a bug or is there a way out of here because for me this realy crushes the fun. Everything is fine except for this.

    Score: 63/100

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    Overall map is good though it can still be improved at some fields such as in terraining: lots of possible improvements here, Gameplay: could be a lot more fun with something more also fix the bug (if not a bug mind, offering an answer to the problem), and lots more.

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    Final Score: 72.143/100
    4/5 Vote for Approval

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    Contact: (Visitor Message) / (Private Message) / (Map Reviewers)
     
  5. Legal_Ease

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    @Hell_master: To upgrade you need a free amount of food for the next unit. To get extra food supply you must take creep camps and kill the structure. This will make the structure yours and give you more food. If another player later kills it, then you will lose it and it will become theirs. This should add some tension between creeping and defending your camps. I hope its fun. Of course once you become a hero, you should be more interested in leveling up and taking the Mountain from the Dwarf King.

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    This is no longer an issue. Currently, you only need enough food supply to feed the unit you want to become.
     
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  6. Hell_Master

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    Now I understand, thanks and I shall give this map another try :)
     
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    • [tab][tabheader]Good Points:[/tabheader]
      - Good 3rd person view, you can see the wide landscape with it.
      (also you can turn on/off rotation of camera)
      - Overall I like the wide and hilly terrain, cool to run through world.
      - I think well thinked amout of creep camps, not to much and not to rare.
      - Big choice of units you can play, and some new cool custom spells (like jump for example)
      - I like the idea of a pet very much, that can help you in fight. ;)
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      [tab][tabheader]Bad Points:[/tabheader]
      - Why trees are selectable? :s
      - Pleaese also give credits in game (but I'm sure you will anyway)
      - At victory a player wins, but others dont lose :p
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      - no real free world
      [tab][tabheader]Suggestions:[/tabheader]
      - When I'm on the mountain, my cam always goes crazy because I misclick so often between these 3 huge hills :D... maybe you can change it a bit.
      - If you kill mountain king, you can use leap onto one of these 3 snow hills and just wait there, please fix this.
      - Maybe you could add a Multiboard which displays some player data. (transformation status, level, kills e.g.)
      - Generally terrain looks good, but I think you can still improve it a bit: Maybe you could use a bit more variation of trees, and terrain-tiles could be mixed up a bit more
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    All in all I really like the idea of this map. 4/5 currently +rep

    And I'm pretty sure with some more input in terrain or new gameplay features it will get 5/5. :wink:
     
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    you reserved a post for the review but then you posted a new post for the review? :ogre_icwydt:
     
  9. Hell_Master

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    About to remove that right now for I always consider posting a new and fresh one to better know or notify the viewers or subscribers of the thread

    And.... no offense, You posted something here just for this one minor matter...lol?
     
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    Honestly, the annoying cam system ruined what would otherwise probably be a pretty fun map. I could barely even use my units properly. Also is the murgul race supposed to cost Gold to pick?

    Also, this is not related to the map itself but.... how on Earth did this map take less than half a week to get approved?!?! To my knowledge there are maps that have been in the pending for 2 months or more. If there's some mechanism to skip the normal queue, can I have in? :p
     
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    Yes, every unit costs gold including the Mur'loc Slave for the Naga race.

    I know that the cam system can be tricky but there is no other way to show off the terrain in the same way. I will see if I can't improve on it. The Flood's system is probably the best GUI cam system on the Hive.

    Thanks for the great feedback.

    I have no idea how it got approved, maybe being a donor helped.


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    The cam system can now be turned on and off.
    Food is now easier to come by. You only need enough food to buy each unit, after you buy a unit your "food used" is reset to zero.
     
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2013
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    I'll reply for now since mech is afk currently. In terms of the camera...I'm not sure how you can improve it, but I'll mention its main flaws so you have an idea on what needs changed. It's been about a week I think since I last went in testing stuff, so sorry for the lack of any information.

    I know you can adjust it with arrows, and turn off the auto rotation...but these don't help that much. For starts, if i turn off auto rotate, the camera will be really awkward if I want to go in a different direction..but if I leave it on...it's kinda disorienting. Also it's kinda hard to get that ideal view, even with the arrows. I had to constantly keep adjusting it for the game to even be playable.

    One other issue I saw is since the camera is locked on, you cannot scroll across the map. While this is not a problem in itself, if you lose vision of your pet/skeletons from that one building, there is virtually no way to get them back to your hero.

    Other flaws I know about is that with one race (one of the creep races, I forgot which one (I think murguls, but could be wrong)), can build free farms, making it extremely easy to evolve since you only needed to get resources.

    One of the ogres ultimate upgrades let to a non hero unit, I'm not sure if this was intentional

    One of the heros is quite broken, but as a result all of its other forms are quite weak (not really sure I like that). I forgot the hero name, but it was a ranged wizard with chaos damage that does like 100+ chaos damage, and I think he had 1500 range.

    I noticed a lot of people got confused with your method of using food, and I think I know the source of the confusion. I'm guessing people think they only need 4 food limit, if the next upgrade only requires 4, because they would be losing the current unit in the process of said upgrade (so if you had a unit that cost 3, they think that they lose the 3 food unit, and then gain the 4 food unit, in that order), if that makes any sense. I think that might be source of peoples confusion.

    I think there may be things I'm forgetting, but I can't remember them now. I hope this helps! Kinda sucks you don't know how it got approved so fast, I know we have been waiting months for his to get approved.
     
  14. Legal_Ease

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    Thanks so much for the feedback. You obviously did a very thorough review. See fixes in change log.
     
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    Please change your map picture, because you stole it from DOTA !
     
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    NOW COMES Legal_Ease,

    Free image for the preview picture can be found here. Even playdota.com does not know who the "author" is and lists it as unknown.

    This message should not be construed as legal advice.

    First off, Dota is not a company or person, rather it is a game style made and modified by players and modders. So I did not "steal" the art from dota because dota is not an entity and cannot therefore "own" anything.

    Second, the artist who made the preview screen art I used no longer has a copyright and the art is considered public domain. A copyright can be lost when it is abandoned.

    Third, most all preview screens used in maps found here use art from some other source and should be considered fair use. Examples of fair use typically involve, according to the Copyright Act of 1976, the reproduction of authored works for the purpose of "criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching …, scholarship, or research" (17 U.S.C.A. § 107). Since this map and all maps posted on the hive are noncommercial in nature and used for educational purposes, no copyright infringement occurs when one map copies something else. See Tom and Jerry.

    Finally, I don't know who the original artist is and if I did I would give them credit. I assure you the artist is not named Dota. I didn't "steal" anything and you should think twice about making such wild accusations.

    So, no, I will take nothing down, but I will ask you politely to please remove your comment posted above so that my map thread does not contain this unnecessary argument. Once you edit your comment I will remove this post.

    The Defense rests.
     
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    It has the name and copyright notice. Thank you MogulKahn, I will add credit to the artist. However, this would have been a much better conversation to have in private messages. Since, Kunkka made the art for Dota (an open source mod) I believe it was intended to be shared and reused as has been done many times. Also the copyright notice comes from deviant art, not kunkka, so I'm not even sure it applies. Please remove the content of your posts so that this thread is not filled with this off topic discussion.

    As noted above the copyright has been "abandoned" and my use of it here I consider "fair use." Dota is not copyrightable and the art was given to dota as a coverscreen. Please stop posting replies publicly and contact me in PM.