(Magos Model Editor) Rotation Problems

[Hugget Sukker]

When editing animation code for rotation on a bone, I run into two problems:

1) I can't figure out the system to the rotation code, which obviously doesn't use degrees or radians. No matter the numbers I fill in, my node seems to insanely translate, rotate AND change scale at the same time.
2) When I instead try to copy one rotation code into another node's code, it does nothing, and when I go back the code is gone. At first I thought this was because I'd continously clicked Cancel by accident, but even with fresh brain cells I get the same problem.

If someone reads this and knows what I'm not talking about - you know, I mean if you know better than me - then your wisdom and enlightenment would be a welcome guest within my Lunatic's (insert fancy synonymous for anything) Aura.

 

[General Frank]

What version of Magos ME are you using? Version 1.05 tend to have that problems, but I think it's fixed in 1.07.
However if nothing works then you should try doing your edits in notepad (.mdl is text formatted) and using Key Redistribute might help solving this problem (transferring animations).

 

[Callahan]

Rotation in magos and mdl use quaternion.
It's too complicated and you shall not modificate rotation by editing quaternion value.

 

[BlinkBoy]

there are tools for converting Euler Angles into quaternions. use google, there's also one by oinkerwinkle.

 

[NhazUl]

Yes. The values are given in Euler angles responding to rotation around X, Y, Z and a W value. X^2 + Y^2 + Z^2 + Y^2 must be equal to 1.

 

[Bloody_Turds]

hmm didnt know the 1 value thing , although i havnt done actual rotation editin in magos, other than linearization of em.., which works great to reduce filesize , my only question is why does Y get 2 values

i wish it was straightforward like in the regular editor, aka set Z=90 and u rotate 90degrees... but bleh...

btw +rep

 

[Thrikodius]

Here is the Euler-Quarterion converter I got from BlinkBoy: View attachment EulerToQuat.zip
Even if linear rotation in magos screws up it has proved verry usefull to me when holding a constant rotation for a node, like directing particle emitters.