LureBreaker Keyblade

[Moderator]

15:22, 30th Oct 2008
Dan van Ohllus:
This model has been in pending for long.

You have 10 days to reduce the polygons to at least 200.
A good hint is to learn how the ingame frostmourne (the low poly version) is constructed.
If I don't see these changes after that, the model gets rejected.

10th Nov 2008
Pyritie: DING! Time's up.

 

[nastyboy_44]

You must be a kingdom heart fan. Anyway, nice model, nice textures, enough shading and nice attachment. over all will 4/5.

 

[D a w n]

a bit high poly for a attachment........

 

[Ribenamania]

a bit high poly for a attachment........

xD .. that's the sacrification for the good quality.

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

Yeah, awesome model. We don't have keys with so many shapes.

 

[Midnight Wolf]

This key reminds me of the Oblivion in KH2, good job! Not many keyblades here, and KH rocks!

 

[Oziris]

It's a nice key but it has a big size!

 

[HappyTauren]

xD .. that's the sacrification for the good quality.

No, that means it is a ridiculous overkill. Now, cut the polycount to 200 (at most).

 

[woxx]

Great high quality model!
Could be very usefull.

9/10
+Rep

 

[syltman]

I love things like this! 4/5!

 

[Mr. Bob]

All of that little stuff, could be achieved with Alpha Textures. It might even look better. And it would make the poly size something like 50 to 100.

 

[Ribenamania]

Mr.Bob, alpha texturing will reduce poly counts? I did not know that.
Btw, if I cut off the poly counts, turns will become zig-zags and it won't look that nice.
And yeah.. making the quality of the texture low is also a way to cut down size.. I made it 512x512 to preserve it's quality.

 

[Lord_T]

Hmm... not some expert on keyblades... but I don't think it's top and bottom should look like that.

Incredibly inefficient, reminds me of my old Dragon Sword, lol.

Please try to reduce that poly count, and put some UV on the top and bottom of the thing... it looks horrible.

Nice attention to detail, but this isn't gonna get approved as is..

 

[Ribenamania]

Hmm... not some expert on keyblades... but I don't think it's top and bottom should look like that.

Incredibly inefficient, reminds me of my old Dragon Sword, lol.

Please try to reduce that poly count, and put some UV on the top and bottom of the thing... it looks horrible.

Nice attention to detail, but this isn't gonna get approved as is..

Hmm, what's the problem of the top and bottom..
Btw, how do I UV .. sorry for asking but I'm still a beginner.

 

[Lord_T]

Hmm, what's the problem of the top and bottom..
Btw, how do I UV .. sorry for asking but I'm still a beginner.

The top and bottom are a solid color, it looks really bad. The UV wrap is the term for how the model uses the texture. Each vertex will have UV Coordinates, and when assigned to a texture, display accordingly. Oinkerwinkle's Vertex modifier to edit the UV.

Or if you prefer, Milkshape 3d. However, MS3D is not free, it costs 35 dollars.

 

[Ribenamania]

The top and bottom are a solid color, it looks really bad. The UV wrap is the term for how the model uses the texture. Each vertex will have UV Coordinates, and when assigned to a texture, display accordingly. Oinkerwinkle's Vertex modifier to edit the UV.

Or if you prefer, Milkshape 3d. However, MS3D is not free, it costs 35 dollars.

Oh. I'm using MS3D and I knew what is UV now .. btw, it's not about the UV .. It's about the texture..I must at shading and others things in the colours outside the blade.

 

[Lord_T]

Glad to know you see what the problem is

I hope you can fix it.

 

[Mr.100]

Pretty cool But it has really big file size, Anyways could you do some other KH stuff or like more attachment? Would be nice with a sora model.

 

[Ribenamania]

xD, I'm still not good at animation yet.
So units are hard for me..

 

[KenshinUesugi]

Yeah, it's too big of a file size for an attachment for most people to use.

 

[Bslayer Brett]

Mean You Should Make Sora Aswell

 

[Pyritie]

...yeah, reduce the poly count to at least 200 or so else this is never gonna get approved.

 

[Fantoche]

Realy good model... but butt.... but this have big size... 3/5 (because the size, the model is 5/5)

 

[Ribenamania]

...yeah, reduce the poly count to at least 200 or so else this is never gonna get approved.

Any suggestion of how to reduce the size or poly count?

 

[Pyritie]

Any suggestion of how to reduce the size or poly count?

Merge vertices. Or just redo the mesh, because the latter might be quicker, given how many vertices you have.

 

[Ribenamania]

Merge vertices. Or just redo the mesh, because the latter might be quicker, given how many vertices you have.

Sorry, I'm just a beginner.. what does merge vertices meant to be and how do I do that.

 

[Pyritie]

What program are you using?

 

[Ribenamania]

M3sd..

 

[Pyritie]

Then select the vertices to merge, and then go to Tools > Merge Vertices.

 

[donut3.5]

Then select the vertices to merge, and then go to Tools > Merge Vertices.

...Okay, riben, ignore pyritie's instructions. Use ctrl+N and ctrl+W (snap and weld), then it would also be a good idea to use Tools->Model cleaner once you're done.
--donut3.5--

 

[Ribenamania]

Then select the vertices to merge, and then go to Tools > Merge Vertices.

Just select all of them and Merge ?

...Okay, riben, ignore pyritie's instructions. Use ctrl+N and ctrl+W (snap and weld), then it would also be a good idea to use Tools->Model cleaner once you're done.
--donut3.5--

Also select all of them and do those steps ? Btw, what's the use of these.. can you tell me why do snap and weld reduces the size of the model?

EDIT: Tried them ..

Pyritie:
I can't even find merge vertices at tools

donut3.5:
I snap and it became a small thing that I can't even see .. and I weld it .. nothing comes out.

 

[NinjaDino]

this weapon is just wow, higly effective, nice for demons, 5/5 very useful

 

[jadegolem]

dis wil go nice with a sora model, now we just need a riku...... and maybe a sora

 

[Frunzbob]

Very nice model, useful for Rpgs or something, i will download it^^

 

[Pyritie]

donut3.5:
I snap and it became a small thing that I can't even see .. and I weld it .. nothing comes out.

Snap = moves all the vertices together. Weld "merges" them together so it's only one vertex instead of like 10.

 

[Ribenamania]

So... what should I really do to reduce the size?

 

[Mr. Bob]

So... what should I really do to reduce the size?

Well, I still think that you could preserve a lot of the quality by making Alpha Textures. If not more.

You seem to be decent enough at texturing to make a good alpha texture.

Or, you could simply reduce the size, by welding the polys/vertices and such together.

But right now, it has WAY to many polys for a model, much less an attachment.

 

[Ribenamania]

Alpha Texturing?
So.. if I'm alpha texturing .. I could just make a rectangle and alpha it for the shape huh?

 

[~Void~]

No, that means it is a ridiculous overkill. Now, cut the polycount to 200 (at most).

Oh quit your bitching. It's a good model, and will probably be only used in campaigns because that's where attachments are usually used.

 

[Lord_T]

Oh quit your bitching. It's a good model, and will probably be only used in campaigns because that's where attachments are usually used.

Please look at the model before you knock someone's comment on it.

Standing up for newbies is one thing, defending a sub-standard model that you haven't looked at is another.

 

[Ribenamania]

Honestly, the major size of the model is from the texture.. reducing it's quality is the best selection.

 

[Lord_T]

Honestly, the major size of the model is from the texture.. reducing it's quality is the best selection.

True, but you still need to try and add another edge to both the top and bottom of the blade.

 

[Mr. Bob]

Alpha Texturing?
So.. if I'm alpha texturing .. I could just make a rectangle and alpha it for the shape huh?

Why? Why can't it just be flat? Its not like someone is going to put a microscope to it in game.

This is NOT debatable. It is overkill. Don't believe us? Go find me a good attachment with the amount of polys on this one or higher. It IS overkill. There is no way around it. You simply don't use attachments that have as many polys as a building.

Usually, attachment poly counts are like 100 to 200. You heard it from PY and HT.

 

[Pyritie]

By the way, where'd you get the texture?

 

[Ribenamania]

By the way, where'd you get the texture?

Huh !?

 

[Mr.100]

Sure your not good at animations but then ask someone else to make em?

 

[Panda]

nice model ^^ if it would glow that would be cool but overall nice

 

[modler2]

lol thanks man i love kh the second one is my favorite game of all time mods aprove this

 

[Mamma_Pappa]

Wow, pretty cool, and well-made, I have to give this a 4/5