Lotr Troll Pack

[Uraman]

Amazing, as always!

 

[Lich-KING222]

very Nice cave trolls

 

[Villagerino]

Crush, smash! An amazing addition to the LOTR universe The Death Alternate is really cool. After a hard animation it's really nice to have such a relaxing Decay Flesh Alternate
By the way, you have two variations of maces in your screenshots. You just have settled on the best in your opinion?

 

[HerrDave]

Crush, smash! An amazing addition to the LOTR universe The Death Alternate is really cool. After a hard animation it's really nice to have such a relaxing Decay Flesh Alternate
By the way, you have two variations of maces in your screenshots. You just have settled on the best in your opinion?

I had some screenshots from LotrO for another club, but decided it looked too similar to the first one (Smooth club with two metal bands)

I might end up replacing the Fell Troll's club with a warhammer or War of the Ring-style Pick-hammer

If someone has some screenshots for weapon suggestions or additions to the armour (Skull or Flag racks, Torn off gate shields, etc) I'll check 'em out and maybe update the pack

But for the classic unarmoured trolls, I'd like to keep them with the smooth clubs out of Nostalgia for their appearances in LotrO (2007)

• The Snow Troll who broke down the gates of Edhelion
• The Mountain Troll who smashed Tvistur in the Silverdeep Mine
• The Cave Troll who the orcs of Isengard unleashed on Weathertop as a last resort

 

[Lord-of-Tuk]

Where is this troll?

 

[jj84]

Nice pack of trolls.

 

[Lord Zodiac]

I like this and tried everyone of them very nice work and
variety!

 

[Villagerino]

If someone has some screenshots for weapon suggestions or additions to the armour (Skull or Flag racks, Torn off gate shields, etc) I'll check 'em out and maybe update the pack

Oh, this a dangerous statement

I remember some trolls from the Battle for Middle-Earth 2, it's also a game though. But out of respect, I must say that they did a great job of recreating the atmosphere of the movie universe. When creating a character you can pick different armor pieces and weapons for trolls; here are some variations:

According to the lore, these are Olog-hai who are an advanced breed of trolls that are intelligent and able to move under the Sun. They appeared in the last days of the War of the Ring in Saurons's service in Middle-Earth.

Goblins use Cave trolls (from Moria) as brute force, they throw boulders or bear clubs, and these trolls can also be tamed:

Your trolls have an Attack Alternate animation. Is it also used for throwing rocks or just for punching?

But this one is a Hill troll that hails from swampy lands near Rhudaur and Angmar, lol:

It's a bit bigger than the previous guy, has armor and... some sort of clothes?

And here we have 3 types of trolls, in ascending order of size: Cave, Hill and Olog-hai:

A classy club, and some sort of giant Mumak bones or huge logs?

And this is a Mountain Giant used by Goblins and Sauron:

It can throw rocks, attack with fists and use an AoE stomp. First appears in BFME 2 and is compared to an ent in terms of strength. The origin is uknown.

And here's a snow troll Rogash from BFME I, an Angmar warrior:

He and his brother trolls were green-skinned and they carried pike-hammers.

There are too many variations even without the constructor of charachters from the game. That was my attempt to sort out the lore things and in no way I am calling for the creation of new types of armor and weapons, I just wanted to share some nostalgic memories I wonder if you played BFME 2?

 

[Xelos]

wonderfull pack of trully trolls, well done , and im shure in pack is missing Troll Taskmaster,

 

[Kyrbi0]

Incredible pack man. : )

 

[Zanleren16]

Amazing, truely amazing! It brings me back to the good old days of playing Lord of the Rings online and seeing these guys roaming around

 

[HerrDave]

@Villagerino yee, I played Battle for Middle-earth 1 religiously as a kid, I wasn't blown away by BFME2 though (I hear it turned out to be more popular though)

For Attack Two, yep, it's for hurling rocks!
Originally I was going to include an alternate set of animations, unarmed and with rock-throwing animations or unarmed swings that could pass for such; but I don't have a consistent way of duplicating animations without breaking particle emitters and footprints, and you wouldn't believe the effort that went into the sneeze or death animations.

If someone has a good tool for it, it might still happen - I like these trolls

In LotrO, there are many, many breeds of trolls, but only two fighting types:

• Crushers (Sometimes armoured, and often wielding great clubs)
• Rock Heavers (skittish, unarmoured trolls who tend to fall back and hurl stones from a distance)

As for the breeds, there are:

• Stone Trolls (Dumpy giant-men looking things)
• Cave Trolls (Classic grey boys)
• Mountain Trolls (Brown skinned trolls with fur)
• Snow Trolls (Pale trolls covered in white fur)
• Deep Trolls (Hulking, rocky, green skinned trolls with no toes and clawed hands)
• Fell Trolls (Red skinned trolls with black war-paint)
• Dire Trolls (Grey-black skinned trolls with white war-ash)
• Hill Trolls (Upright standing rocky-hide creatures with broad shoulders and wide mouths)
• Wood Trolls (Horrifying gangly humanoids suspended in a net of root-like limbs)
• Jarn-olog (Iron Trolls, a profoundly stupid but strong breed)
• Curr-olog (Forest Trolls, covered in bark-like hide)
• Balt-olog (Marsh Trolls, covered in moss and using the bog to hide)
• Gorthorog (Gertheryg plural)

For BFME-style stuff, I'm going to be making a pack of Ents sometime, and probably the Olog-hai War Troll, since it's a classic with the horned helm and spiked club. I'm also going to be updating the Uruk Pack for the 1900th time with some more movie-themed White-hand Uruks

 

[HerrDave]

View attachment 401499
Where is this troll?

Shit, I forgot to upload him

That's my favorite one, too x_x

Just a sec!

*Edit
There we go, thanks for reminding me Tuk!

 

[d3v1lk1n]

OMG, f*cking YES!!!
NICE. Just what i need.

 

[Sir Bartolph]

Wow, great job!

 

[Deolrin]

Couldn't you Import the same animation in Retera's Model Studio? If you set the visibility options right I don't think it should break at all.

P.S: INCREDIBLE pack!

 

[Villagerino]

@Villagerino yee, I played Battle for Middle-earth 1 religiously as a kid, I wasn't blown away by BFME2 though (I hear it turned out to be more popular though)

For Attack Two, yep, it's for hurling rocks!
Originally I was going to include an alternate set of animations, unarmed and with rock-throwing animations or unarmed swings that could pass for such; but I don't have a consistent way of duplicating animations without breaking particle emitters and footprints, and you wouldn't believe the effort that went into the sneeze or death animations.

Yeah, the second one is better especially with a tactic map mode where you need to move forces, then play RTS to conquer the Middle-Earth region by region, and it feels like you are in the movie

As for the animations, I almost feel your pain The Death Alternate is incredible and the Stand-2 is also amazing. By the way, in case they get broken I just copy the existing timings of emitters in Magos before I add an animation via Retera Or I might missunderstand your problem.

For BFME-style stuff, I'm going to be making a pack of Ents sometime, and probably the Olog-hai War Troll, since it's a classic with the horned helm and spiked club. I'm also going to be updating the Uruk Pack for the 1900th time with some more movie-themed White-hand Uruks

That's crazy, man

@Deolrin, not the trolls that you expected!

 

[HerrDave]

Couldn't you Import the same animation in Retera's Model Studio? If you set the visibility options right I don't think it should break at all.

P.S: INCREDIBLE pack!

I'll give it a shot, I'm still a smoothbrain with Retera's Model Studio though

 

[Resyak]

Very good models and very original, I love them. I'm sure I'll put them to use. Thanks for sharing your work.

Regards.

 

[Kasrkin]

Still play the bfme games on and off with friends over the years, and this reminded me of the freezing rain power or the tank everyone's fps power and your friends now want to murder you power.

 

[MrFrichyBoy]

Wow this is super cool! Makes me want to create a new map just to use these models!

 

[1_Freon_1]

A small flaw...

 

[HerrDave]

A small flaw...View attachment 401571

-falls out of chair-
Shit--!

One second

*Edit
Fixed, thanks man

 

[Wazzz]

I love everything about this pack, and I also love you <3

 

[HerrDave]

I love you too :>

 

[hexhound]

Beautiful.

 

[Vasili Yvarov]

FANTASTIC JUST PERFECT!!! MOM, I WANT A TROLL AT HOME! WHY NOT?!!!!!

 

[HerrDave]

When I've got the energy, I'm going to update the pack so all of the trolls will have a Stomp animation

Just finished animating the Cave-troll, all I've got to do now is geo-merge the other 5 variants onto it's skeleton

 

[1_Freon_1]

And will Rogash be able to animate it, which has become a meme?

 

[HerrDave]

I'm not familiar with the meme, I live under a rock

 

[Deolrin]

When I've got the energy, I'm going to update the pack so all of the trolls will have a Stomp animation

Just finished animating the Cave-troll, all I've got to do now is geo-merge the other 5 variants onto it's skeleton

Consider using RMS to transfer the new animation(s) to the other models.
There are tutorials on Retera's YouTube channel, or you can ask for help from any of the folks actively using it (sadly I am somewhat of an amateur at the moment, need to refresh my skills and cannot be of great help).
You can also hop onto Retera's Discord channel and get help there.
It's significantly faster and easier than what you proposed.

 

[1_Freon_1]

I'm not familiar with the meme, I live under a rock

In the strategy "Battle for Middle-earth - The Rise of the Witch-king", Rogash has a jump skill, when landing he throws enemies in different directions. And there was a meme about it, there was a picture used in which a fat woman falls, and a thin man catches her. And there they put the head of a Rogash to a woman, and the head of an Arnor infantryman to a man. But along the way it was a local meme...

 

[ILH]

During in-game testing I found a problem with the decay animations. "Decay Bone Alternate" does not work properly and should be renamed to "Decay Alternate". This is more likely the game engine's issue, but please fix this! ^^

 

[HerrDave]

I think I found out what the issue was; the words are in a different order.

Example from the Troll Headhunter:

• Decay Alternate Bone
• Decay Flesh Alternate

My Troll:

• Decay Bone Alternate*
• Decay Flesh Alternate

 

[d3v1lk1n]

Can i edit the snow troll, because i need only Attack Two?

 

[HerrDave]

Can i edit the snow troll, because i need only Attack Two?

Go for it, dude

 

[ILH]

Good job on the fix! One more thing left, though. Please fix the issues detected by Hive's Sanity Checker on the Cave Troll model.

 

[bakr]

do you have plans to make dwarven units like the ones in the Hobbit movie?

 

[HerrDave]

do you have plans to make dwarven units like the ones in the Hobbit movie?

Yep
The Dagran Thaurissan model is going to serve as the basemodel for the Dwarf pack

I want to make:

• Dwarf Miner (Lantern helmet, big mining pack, bigger beard)
• Dwarf Vanguard (Heavy Iron-hills spear & shield infantry)
• Zhelruka Dwarf (Basically a short dismounted Druzhina with a HUGE mustache)

• Dwalin (Greathammer dwarf with leather armour and hero glow)
• Dain Ironfoot II (Boar-rider wielding the Red Axe of Erebor)
• Gloin (Old dwarf in a TC robe & pauldrons with a greataxe)
• Durin the Deathless (Inspired by LotrO's Durin VII)
• Skorgrim Dourhand (Dwarf with a horned helmet, red cape, greathammer and glowing green eyes)

• Rune-keeper (Dwarf in a robe with a Rune-hammer and Runestone)
• Raven-caller (Dwarf in a robe with a lantern Staff and Mace)

 

[bakr]

Yep
The Dagran Thaurissan model is going to serve as the basemodel for the Dwarf pack

I want to make:

• Dwarf Miner (Lantern helmet, big mining pack, bigger beard)
• Dwarf Vanguard (Heavy Iron-hills spear & shield infantry)
• Zhelruka Dwarf (Basically a short dismounted Druzhina with a HUGE mustache)

• Dwalin (Greathammer dwarf with leather armour and hero glow)
• Dain Ironfoot II (Boar-rider wielding the Red Axe of Erebor)
• Gloin (Old dwarf in a TC robe & pauldrons with a greataxe)
• Durin the Deathless (Inspired by LotrO's Durin VII)
• Skorgrim Dourhand (Dwarf with a horned helmet, red cape, greathammer and glowing green eyes)

• Rune-keeper (Dwarf in a robe with a Rune-hammer and Runestone)
• Raven-caller (Dwarf in a robe with a lantern Staff and Mace)

looking forward for this!!!

It will be nice to have ram riders, ballista and that war machine with an automatic crossbow as well shown in the extended edition of the film.

 

[Barade]

Great and very useful for a Mordor/Sauron's forces race in my map.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Yep
The Dagran Thaurissan model is going to serve as the basemodel for the Dwarf pack

I want to make:

• Dwarf Miner (Lantern helmet, big mining pack, bigger beard)
• Dwarf Vanguard (Heavy Iron-hills spear & shield infantry)
• Zhelruka Dwarf (Basically a short dismounted Druzhina with a HUGE mustache)

• Dwalin (Greathammer dwarf with leather armour and hero glow)
• Dain Ironfoot II (Boar-rider wielding the Red Axe of Erebor)
• Gloin (Old dwarf in a TC robe & pauldrons with a greataxe)
• Durin the Deathless (Inspired by LotrO's Durin VII)
• Skorgrim Dourhand (Dwarf with a horned helmet, red cape, greathammer and glowing green eyes)

• Rune-keeper (Dwarf in a robe with a Rune-hammer and Runestone)
• Raven-caller (Dwarf in a robe with a lantern Staff and Mace)

holy smokes... yes. YES.

 

[Lord Zodiac]

Yep
The Dagran Thaurissan model is going to serve as the basemodel for the Dwarf pack

I want to make:

• Dwarf Miner (Lantern helmet, big mining pack, bigger beard)
• Dwarf Vanguard (Heavy Iron-hills spear & shield infantry)
• Zhelruka Dwarf (Basically a short dismounted Druzhina with a HUGE mustache)

• Dwalin (Greathammer dwarf with leather armour and hero glow)
• Dain Ironfoot II (Boar-rider wielding the Red Axe of Erebor)
• Gloin (Old dwarf in a TC robe & pauldrons with a greataxe)
• Durin the Deathless (Inspired by LotrO's Durin VII)
• Skorgrim Dourhand (Dwarf with a horned helmet, red cape, greathammer and glowing green eyes)

• Rune-keeper (Dwarf in a robe with a Rune-hammer and Runestone)
• Raven-caller (Dwarf in a robe with a lantern Staff and Mace)

More dwarfs the better and without hero glow (just do not like it distracts from art of the unit imo) and Do you have any frost dwarfs It seems I can find bronzebeards dark beards wildhammer dark iron but no frost dwarfs tho without hero glow ?

 

[ILH]

A great set of trolls with complementary custom animations.
Changes made. Works in-game. Approved!

 

[Lord Zodiac]

I want to make:

• Dwarf Miner (Lantern helmet, big mining pack, bigger beard)
• Dwarf Vanguard (Heavy Iron-hills spear & shield infantry)
• Zhelruka Dwarf (Basically a short dismounted Druzhina with a HUGE mustache)

• Dwalin (Greathammer dwarf with leather armour and hero glow)
• Dain Ironfoot II (Boar-rider wielding the Red Axe of Erebor)
• Gloin (Old dwarf in a TC robe & pauldrons with a greataxe)
• Durin the Deathless (Inspired by LotrO's Durin VII)
• Skorgrim Dourhand (Dwarf with a horned helmet, red cape, greathammer and glowing green eyes)

• Rune-keeper (Dwarf in a robe with a Rune-hammer and Runestone)
• Raven-caller (Dwarf in a robe with a lantern Staff and Mace)

All of these sound Great!

 

[hakonwarcraft]

The Olog'hai are indeed cool, not very nice people, but that is why they are the enemy

 

[Gumberbunbder]

I hope the surviving trolls from after the battle of the black gate see these models and are pleased with their representation on this website. Thank you