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Hello everyone. I have been working on a star wars dog-fighting map for a few months now. The details of the map are posted below. I would like to know if any enterprising terrainers out there would be interested in doing the terrain for the map. I've done some of it, but I used the wrong cliff types (no "straight" cliffs, only jagged) so I need to redo them at some point. I thought as long as I'm doing that, maybe I should get someone who knows how to do this right. My own terraining skills are quite poor I'm afraid.
I haven't released a map on this site yet, so I understand if more established people are skeptical. I invite you to send me a PM and let me know if you are curious about the project. I'll happily meet you on Battle.Net and show you how the game works, or send it to you. You can see most of the trigger and model work is already done.
The good news is that the system will work on almost any Star Wars planet. I was thinking Tatooine because of the good Tusken Raider and Dewback models, but I could move it to Endor (there is an ewok model floating around) or any other planet frankly. If we have to invent some alien species I'm fine with that too.
Here's what the map is about:
Four pilot heroes on each side. Heroes have different skills:
Piloting Skill:
- determines how fast you regenerate energy (i.e. mana that allows flight maneuvers)
- determines how much better your ship turns when you perform the overturn maneuver
Gunnery Skill:
- determines how close your lasers have to be to an enemy for them to hit
- determines how fast your targeting computer "locks on" an enemy
Mechanic Skill:
- determines how fast your shields (i.e. armor) regenerates
- determines the cooldown on your auxiliary power (i.e. a mana pot ability)
Rebel Heroes:
Jedi Apprentice: average on all skills
abilities he uses on the ground:
- Force Blind: reduces target damage and move, prevents them from casting spells
- Force Sprint: runs fast temporarily
- Defensive Stance: freezes the unit in place and plays his attack animation when shot at; reflects lasers back at targets.
Rebel Sniper: high on gunnery skill
abilities he uses on the ground:
- Stun Setting: puts his blaster on stun (autofire) which does no damage but slows attack and move of the target. Higher levels enable much further ranged attack.
- Shuttle Flare: fires a flare that summons a shuttle from your base to pick you up and return you to the hanger. Useful when you're shot out of the sky.
- Sniper scopes: massively increases attack range
Gran Mechanic: high on mechanic skill, uses an AOE grenade as his attack
abilities he uses on the ground:
- Freezing Grenade: essentially a stun
- Bury Land Mine
- Athletic Training: Passive ability that increases run speed and increases throwing range of his grenades and freezing grenade ability.
Ithorian pilot: high on piloting skill, melee attacker
- Energy weapons: gives him a glowing dagger and shield, allowing blocks and critical hits
- Dirt Kick: stomps the ground and kicks dirt in the enemy's eyes, AOE lowering attack and move speed of enemies
- Plainstriding: a temporary speed burst; lowers attack rate though.
Empire Heroes:
Sith Apprentice: average on all skills
abilities he uses on the ground:
- Force Pull: yanks an enemy toward his extended lightsaber
- Force Sprint: as above
- Defensive Stance: as above
Bounty Hunter: high on piloting
abilities he uses on the ground:
- Flame Thrower: burns a target preventing them from attacking (custom lightning effect)
- Blank: having figured out a move ability yet
- Personal Shield: mana shield essentially
Gamorrean Sniper: high on gunnery
abilities he uses on the ground:
- Aimed shot: aim for several seconds, then fire at great range
- Shuttle Flare: as above
- Summon Sniper Disk: creates a floating disk that can scout and cast two abilities:
- paint target: puts a custom lightning effect on a target, lowering their armor and increasing the range of aimed shot against that unit only
- bullet storm: aoe attack
Assassin Droid: high on
abilities he uses on the ground:
- Flame Thrower: burns a target preventing them from attacking (custom lightning effect)
- Blank: having figured out a move ability yet
- Personal Shield: mana shield essentially
_________Flight System___________
Ground fighting works like normal WC3 combat, but aerial fights use a custom flight system. All aerial units have 0 turn and 0 speed; they move only through triggers.
The flight system is a perpetual slide mechanic. Triggers track the ships speed and turn number (which differ between ships; some like the Awing are high speed and maneuverable, others like the Imperial Shuttle are slow). When you right click the screen, your ship will slowly turn in that direction while maintaining forward movement, moving in an arc until it faces that point and then moves straight forward. This allows for the feel of real flight, as well as “losing” control when maneuvering quick turns at high speeds which is surprisingly hard.
Ships come with different stats many displayed on a multiboard called Dashboard
- Engines- maximum speed
- Stabilizers- speed of turns
- Laser strength- amount of damage done by lasers
- Shield rating- how many lasers you can absorb before you take damage
- MissileType: what kinds of missiles you shoot (see below), and how many
- CountermeasureType: what kind of countermeasures you have, and how many
- Special abilities: see below
_________Laser System_______
Lasers fire out of the cannons of your ship, alternating left and right. Some ships can toggle on “link fire” which makes all cannons of the ship fire (looks cool with Xwings and Tie interceptors firing blasts of four lasers). This increases the cooldown of laser fire which is ordinarily almost zero, allowing very rapid fire if you have the mana.
Lasers fire forward (red for rebels, green for empire) and detonate on any enemy (ground, air, missile, ship or structure) that they encounter. If the target has shields, no damage is done but their shield rating (armor) is lowered. Lasers have a chance to cause minor “hazards” as well (see below).
Some ships have ion cannons which disable targets. These ion cannons cause no damage but lower shields and cause “hazards” to the target. Hazards disable lasers, missile systems, engines or stabilizers. These cause the target to move slower, turn slower, be unable to attack, etc. If hit with enough ion blasts a ship will be disabled, ejecting any hero in it. A tug will then leave the attacker’s base, dock with the disabled ship for a few seconds, then capture it and return it to the base. This rewards the attacker’s team. The tug can be killed by enemies and should be protected.
_________Missile Tracking System_________
To fire missiles you must first select your target. When you do that, the computer detects whether you are behind it and it is in front of you. If those conditions are met, your tracking meter goes up, if not it goes down. The rate of increase depends on your hero’s gunnery skill. The longer you track (up to a maximum of 12) the better your missile will home in on your target when you fire.
Missile Types
There are 4 types of missiles; each ship has only one type:
1). Concussion missiles (single and double fire): maneuverable and fast but don’t do much damage.
2). Proton Torpedoes (double fire): midlevel missiles good at dogfighting and doing good damage to capital ships
3). Concussion bombs (single fire): Slow but devastating in damage.
_________Countermeasures____________
There are 4 types of countermeasures that you can use to avoid missile fire and lasers. Each ship has only one type with 12 launches.
1. Fragmentation Cloud. Creates a cloud behind you of electrically charged fragments that shreds any missile that goes through it (best kind for missiles).
2. IFGs. A floating orb that scrambles the mechanics of nearby missiles, making them turn slower. Drop this and slide to the side to avoid a missile.
3. Defusion Gas. Makes a cloud of blue gas that reduces the damage lasers do when they go through it. Can be used as defense for ground units.
_________Standard Abilities___________
In addition to their weapons systems, all ships have the following standard abilities.
1. Accelerate and Deaccelerate. Increases speed by 1/5th of maximum.
2. Slip Left/Right. Moves laterally to the left or right in a slide. Useful for lining up a shot or evading a missile. Because you still have forward movement you end up sliding in a diagonal while keeping forward orientation.
3. Overturn. Temporarily increases your turn rate. Useful for getting behind an enemy that is tailing you or avoiding an obstacle in your path if your flying too fast.
4. Auxiliary Power. A mana potion ability. The cooldown is set by the hero’s mechanic skill. Useful for extended combat.
5. Land. Only available at zero speed. Lowers the ship to the ground and ejects the hero so he can go in buildings and fight.
_________Special Abilities____________
Each ship, except the standard Z95 and TIE Fighter, have special abilities. They include:
Ywing: Hop in turret. You hop in your turret and can fire in any direction though you cannot steer. It’s good for shooting down missiles aimed at you and getting those pesky maneuverable TIE fighters that get behind you and won’t leave you alone.
Imperial Shuttle: also has a turret but can only fire behind it (180 degrees).
Xwing and Bwing: adjust X-foils. By opening your X-foils you increase your laser strength (doubling damage), increase turn speed, but decrease move speed.
Awing: and TIE interceptor: Barrel roll. Spins the ship on its axis making it evade lasers. This makes your turn number lower though, making it hard to turn while spinning.
TIE Bomber: Aerial Mine. Places a floating mine behind the bomber. A second cast detonates the mine damaging all units near it.
__________Scenarios_______________
The ground game works on its own with rebel and imperial troops and vehicles leaving the base and attacking each other, ala DOTA. Meanwhile, the ship hangers spawn pairs of bombers (Ywings and TIE bombers) which attack the enemy bases. They are escorted by TIEs and Z95s that will lock on to nearby enemies, circle and fire at them.
In addition to the constant fighting there are side special missions: escorts, intercepts, “defend/blow up the hidden radar stations” and others. There is a repair station that you have to recover on foot (it teleports you to a zoomed in part of the map where you fight droids). I’m also putting in abandoned Techno Union ships that you enter on foot to recover special parts which unlock advanced ships.
It’s meant to be a multiplayer game below 8MB so it can be played on BattleNet
I haven't released a map on this site yet, so I understand if more established people are skeptical. I invite you to send me a PM and let me know if you are curious about the project. I'll happily meet you on Battle.Net and show you how the game works, or send it to you. You can see most of the trigger and model work is already done.
The good news is that the system will work on almost any Star Wars planet. I was thinking Tatooine because of the good Tusken Raider and Dewback models, but I could move it to Endor (there is an ewok model floating around) or any other planet frankly. If we have to invent some alien species I'm fine with that too.
Here's what the map is about:
Four pilot heroes on each side. Heroes have different skills:
Piloting Skill:
- determines how fast you regenerate energy (i.e. mana that allows flight maneuvers)
- determines how much better your ship turns when you perform the overturn maneuver
Gunnery Skill:
- determines how close your lasers have to be to an enemy for them to hit
- determines how fast your targeting computer "locks on" an enemy
Mechanic Skill:
- determines how fast your shields (i.e. armor) regenerates
- determines the cooldown on your auxiliary power (i.e. a mana pot ability)
Rebel Heroes:
Jedi Apprentice: average on all skills
abilities he uses on the ground:
- Force Blind: reduces target damage and move, prevents them from casting spells
- Force Sprint: runs fast temporarily
- Defensive Stance: freezes the unit in place and plays his attack animation when shot at; reflects lasers back at targets.
Rebel Sniper: high on gunnery skill
abilities he uses on the ground:
- Stun Setting: puts his blaster on stun (autofire) which does no damage but slows attack and move of the target. Higher levels enable much further ranged attack.
- Shuttle Flare: fires a flare that summons a shuttle from your base to pick you up and return you to the hanger. Useful when you're shot out of the sky.
- Sniper scopes: massively increases attack range
Gran Mechanic: high on mechanic skill, uses an AOE grenade as his attack
abilities he uses on the ground:
- Freezing Grenade: essentially a stun
- Bury Land Mine
- Athletic Training: Passive ability that increases run speed and increases throwing range of his grenades and freezing grenade ability.
Ithorian pilot: high on piloting skill, melee attacker
- Energy weapons: gives him a glowing dagger and shield, allowing blocks and critical hits
- Dirt Kick: stomps the ground and kicks dirt in the enemy's eyes, AOE lowering attack and move speed of enemies
- Plainstriding: a temporary speed burst; lowers attack rate though.
Empire Heroes:
Sith Apprentice: average on all skills
abilities he uses on the ground:
- Force Pull: yanks an enemy toward his extended lightsaber
- Force Sprint: as above
- Defensive Stance: as above
Bounty Hunter: high on piloting
abilities he uses on the ground:
- Flame Thrower: burns a target preventing them from attacking (custom lightning effect)
- Blank: having figured out a move ability yet
- Personal Shield: mana shield essentially
Gamorrean Sniper: high on gunnery
abilities he uses on the ground:
- Aimed shot: aim for several seconds, then fire at great range
- Shuttle Flare: as above
- Summon Sniper Disk: creates a floating disk that can scout and cast two abilities:
- paint target: puts a custom lightning effect on a target, lowering their armor and increasing the range of aimed shot against that unit only
- bullet storm: aoe attack
Assassin Droid: high on
abilities he uses on the ground:
- Flame Thrower: burns a target preventing them from attacking (custom lightning effect)
- Blank: having figured out a move ability yet
- Personal Shield: mana shield essentially
_________Flight System___________
Ground fighting works like normal WC3 combat, but aerial fights use a custom flight system. All aerial units have 0 turn and 0 speed; they move only through triggers.
The flight system is a perpetual slide mechanic. Triggers track the ships speed and turn number (which differ between ships; some like the Awing are high speed and maneuverable, others like the Imperial Shuttle are slow). When you right click the screen, your ship will slowly turn in that direction while maintaining forward movement, moving in an arc until it faces that point and then moves straight forward. This allows for the feel of real flight, as well as “losing” control when maneuvering quick turns at high speeds which is surprisingly hard.
Ships come with different stats many displayed on a multiboard called Dashboard
- Engines- maximum speed
- Stabilizers- speed of turns
- Laser strength- amount of damage done by lasers
- Shield rating- how many lasers you can absorb before you take damage
- MissileType: what kinds of missiles you shoot (see below), and how many
- CountermeasureType: what kind of countermeasures you have, and how many
- Special abilities: see below
_________Laser System_______
Lasers fire out of the cannons of your ship, alternating left and right. Some ships can toggle on “link fire” which makes all cannons of the ship fire (looks cool with Xwings and Tie interceptors firing blasts of four lasers). This increases the cooldown of laser fire which is ordinarily almost zero, allowing very rapid fire if you have the mana.
Lasers fire forward (red for rebels, green for empire) and detonate on any enemy (ground, air, missile, ship or structure) that they encounter. If the target has shields, no damage is done but their shield rating (armor) is lowered. Lasers have a chance to cause minor “hazards” as well (see below).
Some ships have ion cannons which disable targets. These ion cannons cause no damage but lower shields and cause “hazards” to the target. Hazards disable lasers, missile systems, engines or stabilizers. These cause the target to move slower, turn slower, be unable to attack, etc. If hit with enough ion blasts a ship will be disabled, ejecting any hero in it. A tug will then leave the attacker’s base, dock with the disabled ship for a few seconds, then capture it and return it to the base. This rewards the attacker’s team. The tug can be killed by enemies and should be protected.
_________Missile Tracking System_________
To fire missiles you must first select your target. When you do that, the computer detects whether you are behind it and it is in front of you. If those conditions are met, your tracking meter goes up, if not it goes down. The rate of increase depends on your hero’s gunnery skill. The longer you track (up to a maximum of 12) the better your missile will home in on your target when you fire.
Missile Types
There are 4 types of missiles; each ship has only one type:
1). Concussion missiles (single and double fire): maneuverable and fast but don’t do much damage.
2). Proton Torpedoes (double fire): midlevel missiles good at dogfighting and doing good damage to capital ships
3). Concussion bombs (single fire): Slow but devastating in damage.
_________Countermeasures____________
There are 4 types of countermeasures that you can use to avoid missile fire and lasers. Each ship has only one type with 12 launches.
1. Fragmentation Cloud. Creates a cloud behind you of electrically charged fragments that shreds any missile that goes through it (best kind for missiles).
2. IFGs. A floating orb that scrambles the mechanics of nearby missiles, making them turn slower. Drop this and slide to the side to avoid a missile.
3. Defusion Gas. Makes a cloud of blue gas that reduces the damage lasers do when they go through it. Can be used as defense for ground units.
_________Standard Abilities___________
In addition to their weapons systems, all ships have the following standard abilities.
1. Accelerate and Deaccelerate. Increases speed by 1/5th of maximum.
2. Slip Left/Right. Moves laterally to the left or right in a slide. Useful for lining up a shot or evading a missile. Because you still have forward movement you end up sliding in a diagonal while keeping forward orientation.
3. Overturn. Temporarily increases your turn rate. Useful for getting behind an enemy that is tailing you or avoiding an obstacle in your path if your flying too fast.
4. Auxiliary Power. A mana potion ability. The cooldown is set by the hero’s mechanic skill. Useful for extended combat.
5. Land. Only available at zero speed. Lowers the ship to the ground and ejects the hero so he can go in buildings and fight.
_________Special Abilities____________
Each ship, except the standard Z95 and TIE Fighter, have special abilities. They include:
Ywing: Hop in turret. You hop in your turret and can fire in any direction though you cannot steer. It’s good for shooting down missiles aimed at you and getting those pesky maneuverable TIE fighters that get behind you and won’t leave you alone.
Imperial Shuttle: also has a turret but can only fire behind it (180 degrees).
Xwing and Bwing: adjust X-foils. By opening your X-foils you increase your laser strength (doubling damage), increase turn speed, but decrease move speed.
Awing: and TIE interceptor: Barrel roll. Spins the ship on its axis making it evade lasers. This makes your turn number lower though, making it hard to turn while spinning.
TIE Bomber: Aerial Mine. Places a floating mine behind the bomber. A second cast detonates the mine damaging all units near it.
__________Scenarios_______________
The ground game works on its own with rebel and imperial troops and vehicles leaving the base and attacking each other, ala DOTA. Meanwhile, the ship hangers spawn pairs of bombers (Ywings and TIE bombers) which attack the enemy bases. They are escorted by TIEs and Z95s that will lock on to nearby enemies, circle and fire at them.
In addition to the constant fighting there are side special missions: escorts, intercepts, “defend/blow up the hidden radar stations” and others. There is a repair station that you have to recover on foot (it teleports you to a zoomed in part of the map where you fight droids). I’m also putting in abandoned Techno Union ships that you enter on foot to recover special parts which unlock advanced ships.
It’s meant to be a multiplayer game below 8MB so it can be played on BattleNet
