[Spell] Locust

[laserdemon]

i want to make locust that attack based on hero's attributes, what should i do?

 

[rulerofiron99]

Make the locust a unit based on a hero (change all the stats so that it will act like a Locust normally would), and then set its primary attribute when it is summoned.

• Events
  • Unit - unit is summoned
• Conditions
  • Unit type of summoned unit is equal to Locust
• Actions
  • Hero - set (summoned unit)'s strength to (strength of (summoning unit))

 

[laserdemon]

after that?

 

[darkzxx]

order the unit to attack something ? i guess ?

 

[laserdemon]

i thought locust would attack itself? what i mean is how to make the damage based on the hero strength and do i need to make the locust hero? units doesn't have attributes

 

[rulerofiron99]

i thought locust would attack itself? what i mean is how to make the damage based on the hero strength and do i need to make the locust hero? units doesn't have attributes

Please go read my post again.

 

[Adiktuz]

locusts doesn't attack themselves... where did you get that idea?

or do you mean locusts can attack without orders? if yes then just doing the above trigger will take care of all your needs... just make sure you do it correctly...

 

[Vinz]

and add a locust ability ofcourse..

 

[defskull]

@ruler
You are modifying the dummy unit's attribute based from the Original (Hero) unit as if the dummy unit is a Hero-type unit which it should not be.

Only Hero can have attribute, therefore you must create a Hero-based dummy unit - which is not efficient (what happens if the dummy unit count is 10 ? GG dude).

You can try set the damage of the dummy unit to 1 ~ 1 (the minimum damage you can set for unit) and when it hits a unit (use Damage Detection System for this), link the dummy unit with the Original Hero Unit and damage the attacked unit based on the Hero current attribute(s) - depends on your calculation.

 

[rulerofiron99]

If you don't want to use heroes, add Item Damage Bonus ability and set level.

 

[defskull]

It requires import of a system to support "infinite" amount of adding damage to the unit.
You don't expect him to create 9012379237 add damage ability, would you ?

He can either import the BonusMod system (vJASS) or use my system (Custom Stats) which both does the same purpose but on different platform.

laserdemon, is your map is filled with custom abilities yet ?
If not, it's easy to implement my system into yours, else, you have to manually copy each item add damage ability to your map, one by one.

 

[rulerofiron99]

It could be done in a binary way - many abilities, each with one level that adds a power of 2 in damage. Combine as necessary to give an exact damage.

Although the simplest in this case, as you say, would probably be to trigger it. Since Locusts cannot be micro'd, you can use the event Unit - Unit is attacked

 

[defskull]

you can use the event Unit - Unit is attacked

You're gonna have a bad time if the unit is actually a normal unit (has a unit model instead of none.mdx).

Even before it plays the attack animation, the damage is dealt, that is not good to eyes lol, looks seriously weird.

That's why if you're gonna do it, use Damage Detection System.

 

[rulerofiron99]

A Locust's attack delay is insignificant.

 

[Adiktuz]

If ur gonna use the locust model, you can maybe set the damage point to a low value so that the attack is almost instant...

anyway, well at least it won't be abusable since it's a locust unit, so maybe it's fine, especially if its the locust unit (it doesn't have a really good attack animation anyway), but if ur using another model, then it will certainly look bad...

 

[defskull]

A Locust's attack delay is insignificant.

As I said if you use a model of non-none.mdx model, you're gonna have a bad time...
But if you use a dummy unit (that has no model at all), it's easy.

Let me demonstrate you with a map showing it's weird - even before the dummy land a hit, the damage occurs (that would kill the unit if its HP is low) and it will look weird because the dummy unit don't even hit that unit and it dies.

Test map worth a thousand words.

@TestMap
Now you see the locust abuse his "attack speed" and kills all Peasant in less than 3 seconds ?
Also, let's not talk about the "animation"... Pesant dies even before the claws reach their throat.

That is why you should use DDS.

 

[laserdemon]

If you don't want to use heroes, add Item Damage Bonus ability and set level.

how? please explain

 

[defskull]

If the damage is 47, add Level 4 +10 and Level 7 +1.

Level 4 +10 = +40 DMG
Level 7 +1 = +7 DMG

40 + 7 = 47.

You're gonna need:
1. 9 levels of +1 DMG
2. 9 levels of +10 DMG
3. 9 levels of +100 DMG
4. And so on (depends on your dmg range for your game)

 

[laserdemon]

i want the attack based on hero attributes?

 

[Killd0zer]

i want the attack based on hero attributes?

Yes and to do that well (as in making it not look really bad), you're going to need to do some triggering. Many people have given good suggestions, what you would do is get the Hero's main attribute (If your hero is a Strength hero, then you would get the hero's strength, and have a trigger that detects when a locust deals damage to the unit.)

Another possible way would be to create a few abilities based off of the item ability that adds damage. When you use locusts, you add damage equal to the strength or whatever stat you want to the locusts and then they will deal the right amount of damage. In defskull's example, you have 3 abilities, each with 9 ability levels.

The first ability has 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 damage
The second has 10,20,30,40,50,60,60,70,80,90
The third has 100,200,300,400,500,600,700,800,900

This allows you to add damage anywhere between 1 and 999. If you wanted to add 593, you add 500, 90, and 3 to the unit.

You can also do this with multiples of 2 (2,4,8,16,32)
It sounds a little complicated, admittedly, defskull has a system in his sig that you can use.