Legion TD Mega 3.5 (B4) + 3.41 unprotect

[pietricas]

bug in version 3.5 beta3
If you change builder, you get the same race again!

Very true and annoying.

apart from that: i like all the heroes, it's quite fun.

Lot's of new combos now for old players to test.

What i still don't like is the uneven arena issue. instead of adding one/three maccabeus for the weaker team, you could just leave one player out of the stronger team. just pick random player not to participate in the arena. so it's a fair x vs x fight, at least no imbalance due to special summons! I'd really appreciate such a change!

I agree just partialy.
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Not random because some players are better than others or they units-combos are more efficient on bosses ( or not ).
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Today a saw a combo with the turtle to go and win the arena (with almost full hp), it had +5 armor from hero and -armor on the other teams troops from support units, that combo for a maccabeus with 7000 hp IT's BIG.
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Shortly the sistem cannot analyze yet the combo and or value of players and thier units based on only one thing or two, there are too many factors to take in consideratie.
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Semy-off: Maybe making the units smaller in arena mode? ( could that be a solving case? )
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Or
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Semy-off: Maybe re-analyzing theier value and/or range to move them better on the field.

 

[dNgrr]

If you change the race before hero it will take your gold/lumber but give you the same race, Lord of dead didn't spawn a new inferno and had full mana, Chieftain critical is bugged ( in 10 waves he didn't crit once ).

 

[HuanAk]

Hi huan,

bug in version 3.5 beta3

If you change builder, you get the same race again! Didn't experience it myself, although it happened to PanicX before and just yet to another guy in game. He didnt have a hero for quite a while, wanted to change builder, then get the hero. he instead got the same race.
Case 1: race = Goblin
Case 2: race = Nature
Case 3: test in single player, changing builder for 100 lumber had no effect. _after_ that i enabled debug mode to get gold and lumber and used all my 5 "change builder" chances, always the same race.

apart from that: i like all the heroes, it's quite fun.

What i still don't like is the uneven arena issue. instead of adding one/three maccabeus for the weaker team, you could just leave one player out of the stronger team. just pick random player not to participate in the arena. so it's a fair x vs x fight, at least no imbalance due to special summons! I'd really appreciate such a change!

About the score to unlock master title: 360 score seems pretty fair. Whereas it's rather easy to reach a score of 400 and more with hybrid or prophet, it's more of a challange if you're on a single race. Though there are stronger and weaker races, 360 ain't that easy to achieve.

Ah and one more thing, i asked you before, but i think you didn't read it, maybe a short answer?



thx

1, will fix change builder bug in next beta with unlock code done.

2, can't do much with arena, because I want to make sure small side have higher chance to win. and big side can still win if they are really good.

3, for 360 score, can you keep an eye for lowest level they can reach that score ? (for single race).

4, not sure about replay, all I know is it will include all ingame chat, all ingame data, player name etx... and it shouldn't keep your IP or battlenet username, else blizzard will get trouble.

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for level 11 heroes's stat or cost. It is just an example for level 15 heroes in future version. I am sure there will be more level, depend on how many races available for unlock.

eg, if there are 16 races, then max level is 16, with ~500 value.

 

[MastaKilla]

1, will fix change builder bug in next beta with unlock code done.

2, can't do much with arena, because I want to make sure small side have higher chance to win. and big side can still win if they are really good.

3, for 360 score, can you keep an eye for lowest level they can reach that score ? (for single race).

4, not sure about replay, all I know is it will include all ingame chat, all ingame data, player name etx... and it shouldn't keep your IP or battlenet username, else blizzard will get trouble.

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for level 11 heroes's stat or cost. It is just an example for level 15 heroes in future version. I am sure there will be more level, depend on how many races available for unlock.

eg, if there are 16 races, then max level is 16, with ~500 value.

1.) ok
2.) ok
3.) check pm
4.) hm I think you got me wrong here. I don't need ip adresses etc, but all the ingame data. See, there is the stats table containing player name, value, income, lumber and score. if MM mode, you can see only your side, if no MM, you can see all players stats in the table. But if I start the replay, even when I select "Fog of War", the stats from the other side stays hidden. So my question is, if you can change it, so in replay you can see all ingame stats? (check picture!)

 

[HuanAk]

4.) hm I think you got me wrong here. I don't need ip adresses etc, but all the ingame data. See, there is the stats table containing player name, value, income, lumber and score. if MM mode, you can see only your side, if no MM, you can see all players stats in the table. But if I start the replay, even when I select "Fog of War", the stats from the other side stays hidden. So my question is, if you can change it, so in replay you can see all ingame stats? (check picture!)

can't do anything. because the value is sent to you as "?" during game. so you can't see them on your replay.

maybe it can done with "Observer" mode enable, and view replay as "Observer" but I have not experiance with that.

 

[Saucer]

Hi guys,

Regarding the board values showing in replays, here's what I did in 2.7c and the other legion maps (those that von Oberstain is working on).

You don't need newgen for this.

1. In world editor, add boolean udg_IsReplay
   
   .
2. Add this to the top of map:
   

   function detectReplay takes nothing returns boolean
   // this function was created by PandaMine with help from Captain Griffein
   local integer counter = 1
   local real camerax
   local real cameray
   local real x
   local real y
   local boolean output
   loop
       exitwhen counter > 12
       if GetLocalPlayer() == Player(counter-1) then
           set camerax = GetCameraTargetPositionX()
           set cameray = GetCameraTargetPositionY()
       endif
       set counter = counter + 1
   endloop
   set counter = 1
   call PauseGame(true)
   call TriggerSleepAction(0)
   loop
       exitwhen counter > 12
       if GetLocalPlayer() == Player(counter-1) then
           call SetCameraPosition(camerax + 1,cameray + 1)
       endif
       set counter = counter + 1
   endloop
   call TriggerSleepAction(0)
   call PauseGame(false)
   set counter = 1
   loop
       exitwhen counter > 12
       if GetLocalPlayer() == Player(counter-1) then
           set x = GetCameraTargetPositionX()
           if x == camerax + 1 then
               set output = false
           else
               set output = true
           endif
           call SetCameraPosition(camerax,cameray)
       endif
       set counter = counter + 1
   endloop
   return output
   endfunction

   
   
3. In the Initilization trigger, add this at the bottom:
   
   • Custom script: call EnableUserControl(false)
   • Custom script: call TriggerSleepAction(.0)
   • Custom script: set udg_IsReplay = detectReplay()
   • Custom script: call EnableUserControl(true)
4. Then use udg_IsReplay in the multiboard triggers. Something like this:
   
   • Custom script: if IsPlayerAlly( GetLocalPlayer(), Player(8)) or IsPlayerObserver(GetLocalPlayer()) or udg_IsReplay then

edit: oh, I just talked with von Oberstain about this, and it should be noted that he has observed some bugs related to this. Sometimes values / icons are showing during a game when it shouldn't be, etc. I'm not exactly sure of the circumstances. Maybe it's just a small bug in the implementation. Maybe it's something else.

Perhaps you can add this feature to beta and then see how it works out.

 

[Bond009]

Too hard and too much to explain now.

You can get some ideas base on their talk:

http://forum.wc3edit.net/fulfilled-requests-f75/legion-td-mega-3-41-t24378.html
http://forum.wc3edit.net/fulfilled-requests-f75/legion-td-mega-3-3-t21999.html
http://forum.wc3edit.net/fulfilled-requests-f75/legion-td-mega-3-41-t23171.html
http://forum.wc3edit.net/fulfilled-requests-f75/legion-td-mega-3-41-t23428.html
http://forum.wc3edit.net/fulfilled-requests-f75/legion-td-mega-3-5-b2-t24782.html

hat off to "Fukki", he finally cracked it at the end.....

basical it work like this :

if map is modified with difference constant value, I will know...
if map have cheat pack inserted, I will know....
if player received illigal gold, I will know....
if player received illigal lumber, I will know....


if cheat detected, both lumber and/or gold will restored to normal.
and game will shut down after certain condition (so it will take them more time to test on every attempt)

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anyway, I will improve my anti cheat system later, already got ideas done.

seems like a pretty good system you have in there, but also unless it is a 3rd party program they are using for the hack i dont see much reason to fight it so hard.
Every bot hosts the legit version. so even if these cheats are in the map it doesnt matter as long as the bots dont host it. If it was a 3rd party program to cheat then i could understand though

 

[HuanAk]

Hi guys,

Regarding the board values showing in replays, here's what I did in 2.7c and the other legion maps (those that von Oberstain is working on).

You don't need newgen for this.

Thank, I think I know how it work now. but this function have some major bug.

It is same bug as GetHost function (find out who is host) .. but fail

Here is topic about this function:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/graveyard-418/snippet-needs-revision-game-replay-40777/

check out post #20 by Brible

And it also was not mentioned in the first post that having wc3 minimized causes it to bug. Think about players who minimize wc3 while waiting for the game to start. It can happen a lot and cause a lot of bugs. I don't particularly feel this is reliable at all.

 

[Saucer]

Thank, I think I know how it work now. but this function have some major bug.

It is same bug as GetHost function (find out who is host) .. but fail

Here is topic about this function:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/graveyard-418/snippet-needs-revision-game-replay-40777/

check out post #20 by Brible

Oh, that explains why sometimes it doesn't work correctly... Damn. Thats a shame.


Hmm, a solution is suggested in #21

You could improve this script safety by synchronising all players data.
Then, all players have to minimize wc3 in order to break the detection.

And there's a different system here:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...-replay-online-singleplayer-detection-206438/

I'll give that a try when I find time, and let you know if it works.

 

[dNgrr]

Another bug at beta3, when i use random i recive only beast, and i'm not the only one, and try to fix tauren cheftain critical, he doesn't crit... .

 

[The_Lumberfetish]

hey man,

love the map!

can you think about bringing back the -ns (no save) mode for the new version?

With this mode you will lose (almost) all lumber at the end of the round if not spent.

its just too easy to end a game by saving lumb for a couple levels and then send mass demons and shit on lvl 27/28 or so

greets lumberfetish

 

[HuanAk]

-rd/sd and changer builder is disable(or bug) in this beta.

for save lumber, I need to finish hero unlock code first.

 

[leventopoulo]

One of the best TD games ever!

 

[puffdragon]

I will try finish 3.5

then not major changes for future version untill I got better ideas.

someone at wc3edit finally learn how my anti-cheat system work and can turn it off now

I have to spend more time to anti-cheat system, as well as review my "hero unlock code" harder to crack.

Maps will always be cheated thats a main problem of wc3, i suggest just focus on improving the map and dont waste time with this

 

[toasted]

By the way: DotA 2 will support custom maps and LAN mode later (when it is released), do you think you will move to it in case the engine, editing and stuff is appealing to you?

 

[Averlance]

i appreciate a hotfix for the AP bug since it makes the game really boring cause its onesided too much.

 

[pietricas]

Reminder: you still have one second to select what mode you want, even hp profet work on beta 3.
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But, AR/SD are bugged, they just "random" all first page races every time.
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Onesided? ; not at all, players make it balanced or unballanced, because/based of their wisdom and knowledge.
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A few minor bug - here and there - but it's a resonable version of 3.5.

 

[Averlance]

Reminder: you still have one second to select what mode you want, even hp profet work on beta 3.
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But, AR/SD are bugged, they just "random" all first page races every time.
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Onesided? ; not at all, players make it balanced or unballanced, because/based of their wisdom and knowledge.
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A few minor bug - here and there - but it's a resonable version of 3.5.

Hm... i thought alrdy about editing my comment, but thought i will be understood anyway. I mean ofc the Changebuilder Bug when u play AP. Not the fact that the setted automode is AP because this is not a bug anyway!

 

[puffdragon]

hey man,

love the map!

can you think about bringing back the -ns (no save) mode for the new version?

With this mode you will lose (almost) all lumber at the end of the round if not spent.

its just too easy to end a game by saving lumb for a couple levels and then send mass demons and shit on lvl 27/28 or so

greets lumberfetish

lol, just too easy to end the game at level 27/28? you know game suppose to last up to lvl30 right?

 

[The_Lumberfetish]

sure i know but its just too boring if every single game (assuming no noobs are in) goes till 28 and then its just a matter of who's king dies faster or who wasted heals earlier.

maybe there should be more options of sendings that are really strong in certain rounds to criple the opposing team but give less income than you pay lumber for (like pudge for example) that would give a bigger variety of sendings earlier and not just mass demons on 28

 

[pietricas]

I totaly agree .
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And by the way, now are 35 not 30.

 

[toasted]

Another possibility would be an additional mode with random creeps (this would require some time to create the double/triple amount of current creeps).
For each wave like 3-4 possibilities which can be shown with "-next" or can he hidden.
It feels like: Okay Scorpions, build this/build that.
Golems, better build no Pierce now etc.

It could look like this:
-aprchnhggg....

 

[SYLAR18]

very nice map keep it up.

btw what about starcraft 2?

 

[puffdragon]

Another possibility would be an additional mode with random creeps (this would require some time to create the double/triple amount of current creeps).
For each wave like 3-4 possibilities which can be shown with "-next" or can he hidden.
It feels like: Okay Scorpions, build this/build that.
Golems, better build no Pierce now etc.

It could look like this:
-aprchnhggg....

The WHOLE point of tower defense games is the preparation and the planning. This mode is completely stupid you are suggesting.

Anyway,

I tried very much to use slave trade, but i always fail with it. Sometimes i do ok, but eventually it just fails...

Should it be buffed a bit? Maybe a buff to servant/slave master damage? Or just buff slave trade to 3/5 gold?

 

[toasted]

The WHOLE point of tower defense games is the preparation and the planning. This mode is completely stupid you are suggesting.

Anyway,

I tried very much to use slave trade, but i always fail with it. Sometimes i do ok, but eventually it just fails...

Should it be buffed a bit? Maybe a buff to servant/slave master damage? Or just buff slave trade to 3/5 gold?

The value remains the same and it also works in other Tower Defense maps (You TD for example which I claim as the best TD).

 

[puffdragon]

The value remains the same and it also works in other Tower Defense maps (You TD for example which I claim as the best TD).

Its not just about the value. Different compositions and setups brings different results with much different values.

 

[toasted]

Sure, but if you know what's in 3 waves you know exactly where you can get it with 250 less than recommended value and where you shouldn't increase the gap.

This would be of course an additional non default mode for those who want a new challenge after playing basically the same 100+ times.

 

[SYLAR18]

The value remains the same and it also works in other Tower Defense maps (You TD for example which I claim as the best TD).

i agree with You TD

 

[Averlance]

The WHOLE point of tower defense games is the preparation and the planning. This mode is completely stupid you are suggesting.

For noobs this might be true. There are so many TDs which offers a randomcreep mode. Unfortunately too many ppl are noobs to give it a try just because its too challenging for them. Imo its a really great suggestion and furthermore ppls who are crying completely stupid just because they dont have a feeling for the gameplay in whole.

 

[HuanAk]

I will add -NS (not saving) mode.

will work out the rules later (eg, player can't save more than xx lumber on yy level, extra lumber auto convert to income)

 

[iamthekira]

hey

ns sounds decent. tho i dont agree with the extra lumber being turned into income, maybe just lock the barracks at those certain lvls after the xx lumber?
the kraken cooldown's a bi**h, would it be so bad to turn that back to what it originally was?
2 demons is still possible with delays on the battle before the actual leak ( eg. the creeps from orange havin the chance to fight the towers from yellow if theyre built close to mid. buys enough time )

discovered an op build for nature. it guarantees at least 7/4 prior to lvl 10 with no leaks (including on lvl 10), 7/13 at 20 if you want to hold it, 7/15 if you dont care that much about it. oooor 7/6 before 10 with leaks in your team and 7/15 at about 17-18. depends how big of a boost you get early game. i can upload a replay if you want. dont really remember the scores, but you can imagine theyre high enough (300 at 12ish? = ~1900 value / 400 at 17-18? = ~4000 value idk exactly). you stay undervalue from the very beginning of the game, it never seems to be an issue. wont work on any other race or type of build except strictly nature's units.
i feel kinda bad telling you about this, i like playing it and improving it each time, it'll be like losing the priests on 3.4 all over again )
also, the build is not at all related to the one on 3.3 with the trees of knowledge (except ofc from 10 onwards).

anything new on making the melee heroes stronger for mid and endgame? the range ones are pretty okay as they are now. the melee just goes upfront and dies.
and is there a new race? think i heard something about that some time ago

edit: one more thing, i played a lot of hybrid recently and on the tier 2, the 45 gold one, i NEVER got archers or ghouls. ever. played close to 10-15 games maybe and always started off with 3xtier2 at least. never ever got those two units. could be a bug, pls check that. i like both archers and ghouls in the early game

hope i helped

 

[Averlance]

edit: one more thing, i played a lot of hybrid recently and on the tier 2, the 45 gold one, i NEVER got archers or ghouls. ever. played close to 10-15 games maybe and always started off with 3xtier2 at least. never ever got those two units. could be a bug, pls check that. i like both archers and ghouls in the early game

my mate had last game 2 archers with the first 2 units... so it shouldnt be a bug. U had just bad luck.

 

[iamthekira]

i was apparently playing 3.5 b3(2) when i didnt get the archers and ghouls. so i deleted that. they seem to be working fine on the original version, that was my bad. yet i still have complaints about hybrid it just seems that some units are more likely that others, instead of all being random (usually harpies and watchers, my god are they popular).

also, that little strategy from nature's build seems to be working in the same way for shadow, too. though i can only be sure of 7/3 instead of 7/4, but im still working on it. still goes to 7/6 after the arena and 12 and 14 are a tiny bit tricky, but without summons there really shouldnt be problems, even when you're undervalue.

 

[Pluvius]

I am not sure if this has been requested before. I ve read the thread pages but maybe i overlooked. Here it goes.

Just like Dota or LOD, we have the usual disconnecters, grievers, spoilers, laggers, leavers who suddenly at any point of time be it after 1st round or mid-game leave. For whatever reason or whenever in the time, lets just say that they leave. The remaining players in his team face a huge disadvantage especially in the later game. Firstly, the upgrading of the king by 2 players is definitely slower than 3 or 4 players. Not to mention, the lesser income spread out among 2 players as to compared spread out among 4 players. This is not greatly felt if the remaining players are good. Secondly, although creeps spawn at only the lanes of the remaining player, the remaining teammates of the leaver(s) have to endure the full lumber summons of the other team (3-4). It is very difficult to have 50% or 100% more summons. Its quite imbalance to see 2 krakens, 2 demons etc in one lane. Just imagine, 2 players vs 4 players, or 2 players vs 3 players. The amount of extra lumber would be devastating to the other team. Well, I could think of other lesser scale benefits of a team with at least 1 extra player but I guess these are the main ones.

Is there any way to;

- limit the number of stored lumber of the extra player in the other team?
- perhaps just disable the summoning for the extra player and award other bonuses instead?

- limit the range of selection of the lumber summon units? For example, the excess players in the other team might not be able to summon the 2nd barracks which consists the frost wolf to demon but only able to summon from militia to catapult. I noticed the range of lumber summon units is limited currently up to mid game. For example, you cannot summon kraken for lvl 14 tuskar. Is there a way to do this for the excess players?

These are a few suggestions that I could think of right now.
I really feel that this will improve the game balance if a teammate or 2 suddenly leave the game. Half of the time I play, people cried out for a restart or the round was unfair.

Thank you for reading this

 

[HuanAk]

i was apparently playing 3.5 b3(2) when i didnt get the archers and ghouls. so i deleted that. they seem to be working fine on the original version, that was my bad. yet i still have complaints about hybrid it just seems that some units are more likely that others, instead of all being random (usually harpies and watchers, my god are they popular).

also, that little strategy from nature's build seems to be working in the same way for shadow, too. though i can only be sure of 7/3 instead of 7/4, but im still working on it. still goes to 7/6 after the arena and 12 and 14 are a tiny bit tricky, but without summons there really shouldnt be problems, even when you're undervalue.

Hybrid and Prophet share same unit list.

so if you can get them in Prophet, then it should be same for Hybrid.

 

[HuanAk]

I am not sure if this has been requested before. I ve read the thread pages but maybe i overlooked. Here it goes.

Just like Dota or LOD, we have the usual disconnecters, grievers, spoilers, laggers, leavers who suddenly at any point of time be it after 1st round or mid-game leave. For whatever reason or whenever in the time, lets just say that they leave. The remaining players in his team face a huge disadvantage especially in the later game. Firstly, the upgrading of the king by 2 players is definitely slower than 3 or 4 players. Not to mention, the lesser income spread out among 2 players as to compared spread out among 4 players. This is not greatly felt if the remaining players are good. Secondly, although creeps spawn at only the lanes of the remaining player, the remaining teammates of the leaver(s) have to endure the full lumber summons of the other team (3-4). It is very difficult to have 50% or 100% more summons. Its quite imbalance to see 2 krakens, 2 demons etc in one lane. Just imagine, 2 players vs 4 players, or 2 players vs 3 players. The amount of extra lumber would be devastating to the other team. Well, I could think of other lesser scale benefits of a team with at least 1 extra player but I guess these are the main ones.

Is there any way to;

- limit the number of stored lumber of the extra player in the other team?
- perhaps just disable the summoning for the extra player and award other bonuses instead?

- limit the range of selection of the lumber summon units? For example, the excess players in the other team might not be able to summon the 2nd barracks which consists the frost wolf to demon but only able to summon from militia to catapult. I noticed the range of lumber summon units is limited currently up to mid game. For example, you cannot summon kraken for lvl 14 tuskar. Is there a way to do this for the excess players?

These are a few suggestions that I could think of right now.
I really feel that this will improve the game balance if a teammate or 2 suddenly leave the game. Half of the time I play, people cried out for a restart or the round was unfair.

Thank you for reading this

well, you can -votekick opposite team to make it balance ... just joking

I think main problem is saving lumber, I will see if -NS help on this issue.

 

[Abassy]

Several bugs.

Hello. I always wonder, where should I tell the map creator about bug and stuff.

3.5(b3)
Here are some major bugs. Even in -cb mode, the change builder function is broken. The cost is deducted (100 wood/ 50gold& 100 wood .......) but the heroes is still the same.

3.5(b7)
The bugs is still there, with additional major bugs. Around wave 9, all units and structure received gradual damage, including heroes, castle, builder and tower built.

And I wonder, is there an easy way to contact you, HuanAk?

 

[pietricas]

Abassy -> What you've mentioned has already been spoken, so no need to repeat it, just read the latests post and you'll know.

As far as I know 3.5(b3) is the last update for legion not 3.5 (b7).

 

[MastaKilla]

3.5(b7)
The bugs is still there, with additional major bugs. Around wave 9, all units and structure received gradual damage, including heroes, castle, builder and tower built.

Like pietricas already said, latest version is B3. The version you find in this very thread is always the latest one, anything else is just a fake.

The "major" bug you're talking about where structures take gradual damage, well, that's no bug at all but the anti cheat protection. Some guys altered the protected map, fake released it as B7 and somehow triggered the cheat protection, which then randomly ends the game by destroying all buildings. So there's nothing wrong with B3 apart from the long known and already discussed bugs.

And I wonder, is there an easy way to contact you, HuanAk?

Well, he added his E-Mail address in every map, check the credits ingame, check in the map the top right (mouse over), or just write here.

Cheers,
MastaKilla

 

[MastaKilla]

Oh, and I'd have a request for a new W3MMD value.

Amount of leaks for each player as integer value.

 

[Maccz]

Someone have can give me a build for Beast builder plz ?

thx

 

[BBD]

give bot with stats ... cos this have only dota stats

 

[MastaKilla]

give bot with stats ... cos this have only dota stats

What are you talking about?

Maybe wrong thread?

 

[Risdiz]

HI is it possible that u upload a version of that map that can be modded (i play this map only with 1-3 friends and we want to change something xD) so it would be rly nice if u can post or send me over pn a link for download (i dont want to publish this map as my own ;D)

 

[MastaKilla]

HI is it possible that u upload a version of that map that can be modded (i play this map only with 1-3 friends and we want to change something xD) so it would be rly nice if u can post or send me over pn a link for download (i dont want to publish this map as my own ;D)

LoL, not gonna happen

 

[Pluvius]

As good as asking Microsoft to forward over a copy of windows 8 that is R.T.M now.

 

[HuanAk]

B4 changes log:

* Elite archer --> upgrade cost increase from 155 to 160.
* Tree of Knowledge --> AoE range reduced from 600 to 400
* Goliath --> attack speed changed from 1.6s to 1.8s.
* Mini Hydra --> HP reduced from 800hp to 600hp.
* Druid --> initial mana change from 10 to 0
* Goblin Blaster --> lower overclock's damage from +40% to +30%
* Necrolyte --> cost increase from 170 to 220, HP increase from 750 to 1000.
* Mutant --> Inject Steroids change from 20% damage&hp to 20% damage only.

* Red/Azure/Death dragon --> increase attack speed from 1.6 to 1.3.
* Red/Azure/Death dragon --> Lower AE damage to 5%/20% on 300 and 30 range.
* Tree of Life --> attack speed increase from 1.8 to 1.2
* Trident --> 20% chance to deal 200 damage and stun for 2 seconds.
* Tuskarr --> Spearman's range increase from 350 to 450
* Ancient Wandigoo --> attack faster : 1.0s to 0.9s
* High Priest --> attack faster: 1.0 to 0.8
* The Butcher --> attack faster: 1.6 to 1.5
* Frenzy Ghoul --> HP increase from 660 to 700
* Gravekeeper --> attack faster: 1.1 to 1.0
* Sky Dragon --> attack faster against air (1.0 speed to 0.6 speed)
* Forsaken One --> Insanity buff change from 20% damage to 30% damage

* add 1000 value requirements on Altar of Heroes.
* Altar of Heroes will disable if player use change builder.
* remove Mercenary race.
* King can move at level 30.
* Enable Anti-stuck for Arena fight (can only use after fight start)
* add "leaked", "int" to W3MMD.

* Fixed change builder bug.
* Fixed King's autocast bug.
* Fixed level 11 Tauren chieftain's critical hit

New mode: -ns (no saving)
- player cannot save lumber above cap
- minimum cap = 200 (eg, cap won't work if you have less than 200 lumber)
- cap = 100x(wisp + lumberjeck) , eg 7/15 = 100 x (7+15) = 2100 lumber.
- cap will check at the end of every wave, and any lumber above cap will remove from game.

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let me know how is High Priest and Red/Azure/Death dragon.

 

[MastaKilla]

-blood orc?! (the tier1 unit 20+80) dies from negative buff (at least in 3.41). Maybe stop at 1hp and don't let it die?
-hydra, never thought it was OP. Reducing the mini hydras hp was not necessary in my opinion.
-necro for 220 feels a bit too much, massing it doesn't really pay off anyway (tried it several times), so I think it's just an average unit, not too bad and not op. Don't feel the change here!
-mutant, maybe add an option to either upg attack OR upg hp (but not both the same time of course), like you can choose a mode for soul of hero?! Edit1: << But I didn't think this unit was overpowered at all. Not if it's unjuiced, and if you juice it, 50 lumber is quite a lot considering the fact, you usually don't only have one or two of them. And even then it would be already 100lumber "wasted". So the negative effect of juicing it is already quite strong and made the unit quite balanced imo. The second upgrade was 400g before and that definitely was too much. But ever since 3.x you changed that to 300g, which made it a pretty fair and balanced unit (as always in my opinion). As it's rather slow I also don't think it's that overpowered.>>
-Prophet doesn't reroll but changes builder!
-Uneven arena fights: the team with less players like always loses. where arena 1 seems to be somehow more balanced, second arena is like 99.99% loss for smaller team. That ain't fair in my opinion. It's already harder because of more sends on less players and then like NO chance to win arena. I think if uneven teams, just pick randomly the same amount of players, so it's always an even fight of players. 2v2 or 3v3 or 1v1, even if it's 1v3, instead of adding Maccabeus...
-I used hcl apgmcbns, but ns didn't work. Mode was -apmmhgggcbx3, although the onscreen said "bot entered mode -apgmcbns". Maybe add a new alias as well, e.g. -cs for cbns
-all the dragons seem ok now. the faster attack is quite nice, making them actually a valuable unit, usually dragons suck like shit But they aren't op, really look good to me.

Apart from that I like all the other changes so far. Totally like the ns mode. Unfortunately spamming mass militia (and other small units) in 10 has become a serious issue lately. Pisses me off.

Oh, and there is one really annoying thing in bonus rounds. You can send bloodorcs, which cause a split of all the units down there defending the king. Don't know if this is still an issue with the new bonus rounds, but in 3.41 it always has been an issue so far. That's a VERY lame habit of a lot players. And the worst thing is unstuck wouldn't work down there. So there's just a split and the defense is completely ruined. Maybe enable/fix antistuck for the bonus rounds and (if possible) allow antistuck only on your own side. Edit4: <<Nevermind, the antistuck now works in bonus rounds.>>

Edit2:: ns mode doesn't work at all. Typed in manually "-apmmhgggnscbx3", mode was "-apmmhgggcbx3" however.
Edit3:: antistuck. Didn't you have antistuck already disabled in "normal game", so you can't send your units up anymore and catch leaks from the other player on your lane? Well, in b4 this is working again.
Edit5:: Necrolyte says 750hp when not movable. In actual game/fight however it has the correct 1000hp. Tested it now, well 220 is quite expensive and more HP on a highly ranged unit, well.. if those ranged units are attacked, you usually can't hold anyway. All in all the necro change seems rather bad to me.

 

[HuanAk]

antistuck:
- only work after "first leaked" or "any one of lane is clear", so you can't use it to "pause the monster for 0.1 second" to make them change target.

blood orc:
- remember you can move king and kill those blood orc, as well as anti stuck.

ns mode:
- it is bug, I think it only work on default (when you type -ap only)

Necrolyte:
- I don't have dps number atm, you can calculate dps/cost ratio, it is still above 0.5. (Necrolyte should cost 3x more than Necromance, because summon 3 archer)

I will look at prophet bug and manual ns mode.

PS, try out new high priest, not sure if it is too powerful or not (it have very high dps/cost ratio now)

 

[CafeSaiGon]

Thank for update....Waitting so long time