Knockbacks, Jumps and Water

[bhusta]

First of all, I am not asking how knockbacks and jumps work. This thread is about the general problem of how movements shall treat the ingame water.

How do you solve this?

-like old GTA games: the unit which got pushed into water drowns instantly
-like mario kart: a ghost helps the unit to get back on land

I am open for any suggestion

 

[defskull]

You mean like, you want it so, when a unit is in knockback state and enters Water Region, it will drown ?
And another thing is when it has "finished" drowning, it will be lifted up back to the surface ?

 

[bhusta]

It's a good idea. I just thought about the dying aspect.

If the paladin casts a knockback spell and the peon enters water, the peon dies.

 

[Spartipilo]

You check on the knockback if the land on the unit position is water and you kill it

 

[defskull]

How do you want the knocback to perform ?
Linear Knockback (straight-line knockback) or with Projectile Motion path (like the one you showed on the picture) ?

 

[Spartipilo]

You would have to check if the Peon, at the end of the knockback distance would be on water, and make a parabola movement like the one in the picture while killing the unit, else, move straight forward towards. Nice touch btw

 

[bhusta]

haha I knew this would happen and it is my fault.

The map itself has a global knockback system.
It is not important how the unit will be pushed into the water (linear or in a curve). Althoug the triggering part is out of the question.

I am just unsure what shall happen if a unit gets pushed into water. Since only a few units have swimming animations it is hard to implement swimming isn't it?

 

[defskull]

Okay, what do you want to do with the unit once it enters water region ?
Also, yeah if you want to make the unit 'swim' when enters water region, you first, gonna need a model that has swim animation (duhhh)

 

[Arrr]

Just make it die, and then make his "ghost" (same model with some trasparency) to move back on the ground

 

[bhusta]

Just make it die, and then make his "ghost" (same model with some trasparency) to move back on the ground

I don't think the unit has to die one can easily set the transparency to 50% and let the unit hover back to the ground.

So I have a new example for this case.
There is a peon, a tauren and an enemy hero.
All of them get pushed by the ogre into the water.

The peon as small and weak unit can drown.
But in case of a big tauren, knockback spells would be to strong.
I like the idea with the hovering ghost hero but I would prefer something different for big non-hero units.

hmm I think this thread fits better in the idea section. I ask a moderator to move this thread.

 

[Spartipilo]

Seems too "developed". I would hide the unit underwater, make a timer on the position where it was knocked out, and make it fall from the sky with some effects when reching the ground when the timer reaches 0.