Killing Spree 2.9 [Official]

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- get a team or play it alone, as long as you can kill a spree!

Killing Spree (Version 2.0) Rate Score Percent Letter 5/5 91-100 A Rate Score Percent Letter 4/5 81-90% B Rate Score Percent Letter 3/5 75-80% C Rate Score Percent Letter 2/5 70-74% D Rate Score Percent Letter 1/5 50-69% F Overview: Gameplay "Killing Spree" is a Hero-Arena game that makes you choose a hero that can combat waves of monsters and prevent them from reaching the circle of power. "The Game is very intensely good and well-done when it comes to skills and items, but somehow the fountain of life is too slow to give a % of hp per second due to the fast count of the next wave, i suggest increase the percentage." Terrain "Terrain looks dull and too much space being shown it would be nice if you can add enough doodads and landscape to give the map some detail." Management "No bugs see or any problems being shown in the game, any else this map is good to play with friends and others." Total Score: Rate Score Percent Letter 9/15 80% C

V2.0

^Orcnet
- has reviewed version 2.0

 

[Rapid]

All have normal attack

 

[Rapid]

Best! 10/5

 

[Enitybaz]

bug found

i played this game with a friend and I picked jinndo while he picked the frozen troll and when we were playing this game on easy mode, we reach waved 41, the acolytes and after killing all of the units, we couldn't continue through the game. If needed, I can provide the replay for the game and the version we were playing was 2.00b

 

[Gold1]

i played this game with a friend and I picked jinndo while he picked the frozen troll and when we were playing this game on easy mode, we reach waved 41, the acolytes and after killing all of the units, we couldn't continue through the game. If needed, I can provide the replay for the game and the version we were playing was 2.00b

I see. Send me the replay at [email protected] and ill take a close look at it. I have had similar problems like this in the past with levels right after a boss fight and have fixed these in the latest version. If there is another issue I would like to know.

 

[Rapid]

need more terraining

 

[Orcnet]

map approved

 

[Vengeancekael]

Add a map category.

 

[juan90109]

Stucked in lvl 31

I have a problem in lvl 31, mobs dont spawn :S

 

[Im2Litle]

Nice :3

 

[Gold1]

I have a problem in lvl 31, mobs dont spawn :S

Provide me with a replay of your game

 

[juan90109]

Provide me with a replay of your game

I send it to your gmail ( really excelent map, fix it pls )

 

[Ursus]

Entangle roots

There is a bug with the entagle ability from the purple tree hero when creeps die from the entangle dps they dont award any gold or counts the kill as yours.

 

[Gold1]

Future for this ability

There is a bug with the entagle ability from the purple tree hero when creeps die from the entangle dps they dont award any gold or counts the kill as yours.

This I know about and I am going to remove this ability from the game in version 2.1 which is soon to come.

 

[Khaine]

Hello Gold1,

yesterday i played your map 3 times with 2 friends of me and one time with fullhouse!

All in all your map is well done and makes fun till a certain point!


However there are some things that worsen the game feeling:
- The game is rly difficult to game. The difficulty level is too hard!!
In the full house game the people left after one another bcz of the hard difficulty..
In the 3 rounds i played with friends we got it only till wave Level 14: Druid of the Talon. You rly have to check the difficulty of the map! Especially range creep unit waves are overpowered :|

- could you add more items to the map for all hero classes?
What about adding tomes?
Especially for intelligence heroes is too less stuff(That what my friend told me)
- It's ok that you get later gemstones for upgrade items. but in reference to the hard difficulty of the map that "epic" gemstone items should bring a more higher felt item-bonus.
- What do you think about adding hiring fighting mercenaries for the players?

- The 15, 20 seconds till a new round starts is rly to less for buying, manage your inventory especially when you play the map the first time.
+5, 10 seconds more break time would be nice.

- I like the boss fight with the Level 10 Flesh Devourer boss. Its cool that he uses spells and you get a message which spells it casts.
What do you think about to "make" him more frightening, powerful? --> Increase his model size to make him look more so.
- Maybe you could increase the model size of all bosses to show their "bossnesses"?


Your map has for me a great potential!
Keep on the good work!

 

[Gold1]

Feedback Reply

Hello Gold1,

yesterday i played your map 3 times with 2 friends of me and one time with fullhouse!

All in all your map is well done and makes fun till a certain point!


However there are some things that worsen the game feeling:
- The game is rly difficult to game. The difficulty level is too hard!!
In the full house game the people left after one another bcz of the hard difficulty..
In the 3 rounds i played with friends we got it only till wave Level 14: Druid of the Talon. You rly have to check the difficulty of the map! Especially range creep unit waves are overpowered :|

- could you add more items to the map for all hero classes?
What about adding tomes?
Especially for intelligence heroes is too less stuff(That what my friend told me)
- It's ok that you get later gemstones for upgrade items. but in reference to the hard difficulty of the map that "epic" gemstone items should bring a more higher felt item-bonus.
- What do you think about adding hiring fighting mercenaries for the players?

- The 15, 20 seconds till a new round starts is rly to less for buying, manage your inventory especially when you play the map the first time.
+5, 10 seconds more break time would be nice.

- I like the boss fight with the Level 10 Flesh Devourer boss. Its cool that he uses spells and you get a message which spells it casts.
What do you think about to "make" him more frightening, powerful? --> Increase his model size to make him look more so.
- Maybe you could increase the model size of all bosses to show their "bossnesses"?


Your map has for me a great potential!
Keep on the good work!

Hey Khaine, first I would like to say thanks for the feedback and for playing Killing Spree! Next I want to address your points of concern.

1. I understand that this version of Killing Spree (2.0) is very difficult. This is because of the previous versions of the game (1.0-1.4) were fairly easy. This version of the game game steps up the difficulty for players. However your point is valid for people new to the game which is why I have been making it easier and easier as time passes. In my next upcoming version (2.1) the game should be more player friendly (but still challenging).

2. As far as the levels themselves, mostly ranged units, they can be very powerful but easily defeated. The common tactic for these is to "nuke quickly and kite." With 6 players the recommended hero team make up would be 1 Tank, 2 Healers, 4 DPS. With 1 healer out of 6 players it will still be very difficult to advance. With no healer out of 6 players is a set up for failure.

3. I will be adding more items into the game. I have been debating on the idea of tomes, but looking for a way to keep it balanced in the game. A few of my map testers have suggested I have 30 seconds between levels but that would make the game last even longer, and honestly I think it lasts too long as it is. I have, however, been thinking of having 30 seconds between levels for the first 9 levels.

Also thanks for the compliment on the 1st boss. But as you fight on the bosses and the fights are more powerful than the last. Especially the final fight!

Thanks for the feedback and feel free to keep the feedback coming.

 

[Khaine]

That's sounds rly promising Gold!

Thx for the tactical hint!

Yeah,
yes i will feedback it again after you released the new version!

Good success!

 

[EVLSRG]

Can you please put an option to remove the weather effect?

 

[BandolXD]

Is this have an AI?

 

[Gold1]

Is this have an AI?

The waves that spawn will run to bottom of the map to take your lives. Bosses have phases, abilities, and require coordination. So to answer your question... Yes, there is AI to a certain extent.

 

[EasterEggs]

This is game is fun. But there's a bug. Every item you gain/buy, you will get refunded with 3 gemstones when you are using the Lord Of Darkness or whatever you call it. The one with the Kil'Jaeden's model.

 

[edo494]

The map looks sweet(didnt play it so far) but I wonder, can this be played solo? Because I have no friends who would play wc3 nowadays

Or better question, does the difficulty scale with number of players in game?

 

[Gold1]

This is game is fun. But there's a bug. Every item you gain/buy, you will get refunded with 3 gemstones when you are using the Lord Of Darkness or whatever you call it. The one with the Kil'Jaeden's model.

Me and a friend were playing last night and we came across the same thing. I fixed it ASAP. So everything is fine now. Happy Gaming!

 

[Gold1]

The map looks sweet(didnt play it so far) but I wonder, can this be played solo? Because I have no friends who would play wc3 nowadays

Or better question, does the difficulty scale with number of players in game?

Yes the game can be played solo. 10 units spawn for player that is playing so if there are 6 players 60 units will spawn per level. I'm still looking for more ways to keep solo play balanced. I still feel its a little difficult but not impossible.

 

[I_am_Death]

this look nearly like orc gladitors

 

[matisko666]

Hi there, I'd like to share some experience with your map, I really liked it, it's well done but it has a lot of bugs:
- Carnage's Death Pact skill doesn't work (or didn't on animated dead units, it just won't heal me one bit for a reason)
- Level 31, killed Doom Guards, nothing else spawned, can't provide you with a replay but I didn't do anything wrong
- Boots of Elvenskid as it is needed by the sword recipe is actually Boots of Quel'danas or how is it called as I guessed and tried the recipe by random
- Although I think it's supposed to be co-op based map you should make an opportunity to have more Heroes being able to finish it on solo, so far I found out that the Red Orc dude is only possible solution (didn't try all Heroes)

Other Stuff: I really like that many of items are Vanilla-like, so it's intuitive to check them in a minute and understand but you should definitely make more items, also I played for Frost Troll and he is an Agility Hero but only viable damage output is from his spells which requires only Hero's mana so he doesn't need to be Agility at all making him weak auto-attacker as he's ranged... You should give him something like Critical Strike or damage from spells based on his Main Stat you know make his characteristics usable, you can check my only and latest project to see what I'm talking about, I'm sure you'll get the idea and make your Heroes more customizable...
Very simple map, lots of fun but the difficulty is frustrating for the most of Heroes if you're not teamed up... I'm giving you 3/5, best regards mate!

 

[Gold1]

Thanks for your feedback.

Hi there, I'd like to share some experience with your map, I really liked it, it's well done but it has a lot of bugs:
- Carnage's Death Pact skill doesn't work (or didn't on animated dead units, it just won't heal me one bit for a reason)
- Level 31, killed Doom Guards, nothing else spawned, can't provide you with a replay but I didn't do anything wrong
- Boots of Elvenskid as it is needed by the sword recipe is actually Boots of Quel'danas or how is it called as I guessed and tried the recipe by random
- Although I think it's supposed to be co-op based map you should make an opportunity to have more Heroes being able to finish it on solo, so far I found out that the Red Orc dude is only possible solution (didn't try all Heroes)

Other Stuff: I really like that many of items are Vanilla-like, so it's intuitive to check them in a minute and understand but you should definitely make more items, also I played for Frost Troll and he is an Agility Hero but only viable damage output is from his spells which requires only Hero's mana so he doesn't need to be Agility at all making him weak auto-attacker as he's ranged... You should give him something like Critical Strike or damage from spells based on his Main Stat you know make his characteristics usable, you can check my only and latest project to see what I'm talking about, I'm sure you'll get the idea and make your Heroes more customizable...
Very simple map, lots of fun but the difficulty is frustrating for the most of Heroes if you're not teamed up... I'm giving you 3/5, best regards mate!

Hey, matisko666. I wanna start off my reply by saying thanks for playing.
Secondly, you mentioned a few points of concern and id like to address these.
- Carnage's unique ability is Blood Pact which Sacrifices a friendly Undead unit, converting 25% of its current hit points into mana for him. This ability does NOT heal Carnage.
- I know this bug has been causing issues in the past and I have been working to solve the problem. I have been unsure of what causes it, but I have made some changes to prevent this from happening again.
- The Boots of Elvenkind and Boots of Quel'Thalas are indeed the same item. The name changes for which ever version of Wc3 the game is being played on. I will be making this item less confusing for players.
- Each hero has their own unique way of play style and they all are very much capable of completing the game with. (With the exception of healers).
Further upgraded items (especially armor) helps significantly with survival.
- Most heroes have spell abilities that would make them feel more like an Intelligence hero. So much so that every Hero should very much be Intelligence. But, I feel the Character of the Heroes fit their attribute quite well.
Once again thanks for playing Killing Spree! Your feedback helps me to improve this map. You should definitely try it again soon!

 

[matisko666]

I'm really sorry for that thing with Carnage I couldn't read, but, I have two more concerns, there are only two of them: Too short period between rounds (I don't have much time to return to base and regenerate or plan my items) and too long reviving time (when you die you should lose Lifes I understand but then you wait far too long that when you're finally there you have to fight next wave almost immediately without mana and items which means you have to die again), you should make it revive you instantly after next level is preparing, you know, after there are no units from the wave that killed you left...
I'm gonna play it once more and will return!

 

[matisko666]

Aaalright! I'm here for my last time I guess, played your map and actually was able to finish it solo with Alliance Highguard only... he's the most OP amongst all Heroes as a tank... I died only once when fighting Death Tree boss and got killed by second Entangle because I was out of Avatar, should've bought Spell Immunity before upgrading my gear... Also, is the necrotic debuff from the Necromancer boss intended to damage the player if he's magic immune? Because last boss' hellfire or whatever meteor shower it was didn't do me anything on the other hand... btw, what are those barricades good for if players can teleport back and forth to arena and the boss crossed it easily too...? Are Mana Voids intended to make me lose my Lifes when they randomly cross the Circle of Power? Because that is stupid Overally I was in thrill or how is it saying when fighting the unknown I liked it, the ending was epic... last concern, how am I supposed to get 1000 kills? I mean even if I was playing solo and wasn't farming Necroboss' minions I still got like 700+ kills only, it seems that the only way is to spend a lot of time fighting the Necroboss to farm it up and that shouldn't be happening, you should definitely reduce the required amount to like 600 or 700 kills to be able to obtain the Legendary Gemstone on solo at least Last one detail, when making new version be sure to always check all strings referring to it, when I finished it, it told me "thanks for playing Killing Spree 2.0", just letting you know...
Tweak the stuff I put on your table if you haven't heard of them and you've got a place in my heart mate

 

[ijal]

can i play alone with AI??

 

[MortAr]

My nickname is with '4' in the credits.

 

[Strikest]

You use too many default warcraft spells.

 

[monkeyboy15]

There should be a repick command.

Never mind, found the repick command.

 

[Streak]

I'm finish reviewing the map wow it took me hour to review this map and it's fun as well anyway i do review all heroes and there skills and i never reach level 50 do the luck of time and i find a bug the engtangle ability what ever you call it when i use the spell and cast on a creep the creep dies and did not get any reward at all even the kills or the gold and i'm impressed with the terrain it's simple but looks fine and the loading screen are good creating and i really like that you use dota kill streak sound i hope that you improve the map and fix the bug good-luck improving.

 

[Gold1]

...and i find a bug the engtangle ability what ever you call it when i use the spell and cast on a creep the creep dies and did not get any reward at all even the kills or the gold...

The ability i believe you are speaking of is called Entangling Algae. This ability has long been removed from the game since version 2.1.
"Thibur's Entangling Algae ability has been replaced with a new ability, Torment".
Thanks for playing though. Always looking for new ways to improve.

 

[Mech_Warrior]

Hello Gold1,

Just played your map through with some friends. I have some feedback.

Overall the game was really great and fun! I had a blast playing it; my role was healer, we also had a pseudo tank and a dps. My first comment is that not enough items upgrade to later forms. I'd really like it if you could change this in the future. For instance, one of the items in the main recipe shop stopped at level 1, the other one I pursued had a single upgrade. It ended up costing me in the long run because I had nothing good to upgrade late game; I ended up pooling our DPS.

One bug I found was that my hero (can't remember his name; he had Holy Light, Dispel Magic, Rejuvenation, Inner Fire, Tranquility) had an issue with his level 10 Inner Fire. At levels 1-9, the Inner Fire was fine, but as soon as I upgraded to level 10, it had 0 cast range. I literally had to run right up to my allies to cast it. Very annoying, and very easy to fix, and it would improve the hero greatly, since he relies on casting / healing from a distance.

I was also not positive if the Bonus Round (Stags) were supposed to do this, but... they don't disappear when they enter the "leak" zone. They just sit there and kinda run around afterwords, which let us kill all of them, even the ones that ran past.

Also of note, I realized at about level 10 that there was periodic income. I also realized that we could indefinitely stall the game by having a hero sit there and eat attacks from a single low damage creep (with a regen item in the hero's inventory). This would be very abuseable. We could have theoretically gained tons of resources from an extended afk while "stalling" the creeps. (We didn't do it, cause we're not lame, but yeah. You might want to take away periodic income and add per wave income?)

One other point is that the shop time is very miniscule. I don't know why you did it that way, but we were barely able to look at items much as first timers. Maybe have a customizable shop timer with periodic income removed during that time?

One last thing... you need to make it more clear that Magic Immunity is essential to beating the final boss. Normally, I'd say that it's a game maker's initiative whether to give hints like this out ahead of time, but with a game that takes 1.5 hours+ it would be nice to have some clue that he's gonna cast Fires of Wtf Doom on us and kill our heroes in 3 sec. It would be great if there was a support item that temporarily gives all allies in an AoE Anti-Magic Shell. You might already have this, I wasn't able to find it if it was there. I saw the Magic Immunity item in Merc Shop, but we didn't get it.

Overall, was a really fun map. The final boss is a worthy foe, but it was frustrating dying to his fires so quickly.

I give this map 5/5 (rounded up), very fun. Good luck on future updates!

Mech



Edit: I can send you the replay of our game if you'd like, for analysis. Also forgot to mention that the surprise cutscene that teleported our heroes out of the base region took one of my friends by surprise. As a result, his epic damage item was sitting on the ground in base, where he couldn't access it, for the final fight. This was also D:

 

[chadoftoons]

Played with friends was alot of fun however you could've used air monsters orbs were in so it wouldnt have hurt much that variety also with 2 other players it was impossible to get 1000 kills for the legendary gemstone. Also the Emerald of nobility was nowhere to be found so that is kink you gotta work on getting the names of the items right so crafting isnt guesswork.

 

[WhiteFang]

Awesome to see this updated again since its one of my all-time favorites

 

[katho]

can u put more item description? need so long to find the items to combine.
but where is the emerald trinkent of nobility??

 

[Gold1]

can u put more item description? need so long to find the items to combine.
but where is the emerald trinkent of nobility??

I'm already working on something to make item hunting both less time consuming and less irritating to newer players.

 

[WarLord69]

Just finished it in 3.5/5 FEEL THE BLOODLUST in this game)

 

[katho]

the find command never worked
nice idea but what should happen?

Edit:
wave 22 dont start

 

[Gold1]

the find command never worked
nice idea but what should happen?

Edit:
wave 22 dont start

Then you didn't type it in correctly

 

[Ariagil]

Killing Spree Review

Killing Spree 2.4 review
"Killings at two or more locations with almost no time break between murders!" -wikipedia

Review

________________________
A solid hero survival map with lots of custom items, spells and fluent gameplay.


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Aesthetics
Regarding the terrain, I'd say it's slightly below the Blizzard quality. But it doesn't look bad and what's probably the most important in this kind of map: it doesn't distract or disturb the player.

The icons are mostly original and well that's not really a problem, but sometimes a new fresh icon (especially when it comes to spells) can feel much better, especially when the spell is itself is nearly unchanged too. (but that's rather subjective)

+
Simple, quite pleasant environemnt and effects
-
Not really a top-quality terrain, lack of a little more custom icons/models


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Game
Generally speaking, it is fun to play. Not so much in one player to be honest, but given it was designed basically as a team game, ok, good.

There are quite a lot of custom combinable items, and that's really nice. As far as I remember they don't have any really interesting effects (active abilities, new auras) but I think it's quite enough the way it is.

Some spells are really nice, I guess there weren't many (if any) original blizzard hero abilities which is important. A few are really nice, but that's just a few, I'm sure you could improve many spells to make them really amazing. Or make possible combos, something like Brewmaster's Breath of Fire + Drunken Haze. I think spells are really important in this kind of game - this and items is basically everything you care about and spells is what you actually use, the action!

And I were to think about a perfect hero defense, I guess there would be some extra events, like arena fights, extra creeps in the map you could defeat for some nice bonuses etc.
+
Nice custom items, some custom spells, fun to play in a team
-
Many spells could be more interesting, lack of something extra



________________________
Rating
4/5

The aesthetics are around 3/5 but the gameplay is probably still enough for 4/5 and I have to say that's what matters. Around 3,4/5 but I rate 4.

 

[Eat_Bacon_Daily]

Played it with a buncha friends. It was really fun at first, but it got old pretty fast. It got fun again during the final boss. Its also really hard to bounce back if you fall behind early on. Also maybe write which shop the required items are for recepies, it was a pain to figure out which shop had what item, especially since some items are built by combining two of the same items. Besides that it was pretty fun just smashing waves early on though, you should find a way to spice things up. 3/5

 

[64m3r]

Killing Spree 2.5 Review

REVIEW:

Perks:

• Hero Preview. Awesome mechanic, being able to see what the hero you want to pick has as skills.
• A very useful -What to buy command. Finally at least someone thought of making their map newbie friendly.
• Interesting Rune mechanic.
• Balanced Waves, Bosses, Heroes, Items.
• the command -Find item is a great mechanic to help newbies find what they need.

Issues:

• After some waves the next wave timer disappears and the game is stuck. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't.
  It might be a crowding issue on the spawn.

Verdict:

7/10 Slightly Above Average.
A very interesting map that's very fun to play with friends.
It has a slight issue, freezing. Cause is unknown but it is uncommon. Worth a restart.
It introduces a very smart Hero Preview mechanic and at least tries to be newbie friendly.
It doesn't have a very artistic terrain but in a way it's simplicity is compelling. You know what your goal is and where.
It has some customization, like skills and items.
And the final boss battle is also very well made.
If the bug is fixed, i will give it a 9/10, Awesome.

whatever the case, i know i will still be playing it.

 

[Gold1]

REVIEW:

Perks:

• Hero Preview. Awesome mechanic, being able to see what the hero you want to pick has as skills.
• A very useful -What to buy command. Finally at least someone thought of making their map newbie friendly.
• Interesting Rune mechanic.
• Balanced Waves, Bosses, Heroes, Items.

Issues:

• the command -Find item doesn't work. I tried everything from putting the name in "", [], (), i tried Capital letters, all small letters...
• After some waves the next wave timer disappears and the game is stuck. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't.
• very hard to find the needed items for recipes if you are a newbie.
• add a slight pause after each wave. Maybe 10 or 20s. It's almost impossible to find items while enemies keep on coming endlessly.

Verdict:

7/10 Slightly Above Average.
A very interesting map that's very fun to play with friends.
It has it's ups and downs, but not all of them are game braking.
It introduces a very smart Hero Preview mechanic and at least tries to be newbie friendly.
It doesn't have a very artistic terrain but in a way it's simplicity is compelling. You know what your goal is and where.
It has some customization, like skills and items.
And the final boss battle is also very well made.
If the bugs are fixed, it will deserve a 8/10 or even 9/10.

whatever the case, i know i will still be playing it.

I'm posting this comment so that the people who review comments stay up to date and know there were no major issues
I just watched the replay of your game. First, you input the command incorrectly on every attempt. Only ALL LOWERCASE should be typed. No capitalization. I made it this way because it is the simplest way to do so without causing any confusion.
Second, I didn't see where the game "almost" froze. The game actually will never freeze due to numerous amounts of testing and fixes. (Not trying to sound cocky or like an asshole.)
Lastly, did you have to cheat though? smh lol. Thanks again for playing. Give it another go sometime.

 

[64m3r]

Still a slight issue. Slight.

I'm posting this comment so that the people who review comments stay up to date and know there were no major issues
I just watched the replay of your game. First, you input the command incorrectly on every attempt. Only ALL LOWERCASE should be typed. No capitalization. I made it this way because it is the simplest way to do so without causing any confusion.
Second, I didn't see where the game "almost" froze. The game actually will never freeze due to numerous amounts of testing and fixes. (Not trying to sound cocky or like an asshole.)
Lastly, did you have to cheat though? smh lol. Thanks again for playing. Give it another go sometime.

I can see you are criticizing me here to defend your map. There is no need for it. My review was just so you can know the small issues of your map and fix them for a better experience so your map will be more popular. Im on your side, im not attacking or criticizing you, im helping.
I used cheats for a faster game. That's what cheats are for... debugging.
I've updated my review.
As for the freezing i mentioned, it happened 3 times so far. Within a week of playing. It is uncommon but when there are more people playing, it can happen sometimes. I have 4 friends that will back me up on it.
Oh and thank you for clarifying how -find works. Something you should have done in the description.

Oh and no need to fear the moderators... your map is working fine. If it freezes again like it did to me (i repeat it is uncommon) you just restart the map and it works fine the second time.

 

[l3lackHawk]

Bug found wave 41

Hi don't know if this has been addressed but after killing off the units there was not count down..

Have replay if needed.

P.S the games is simple but effective keep up the good work!