[Trigger] Integer A/B question

[baassee]

Hello

Yes I'm a spellmaker and I should know this but I'm just making sure of it now (this may be a huge topic here, very common).

I know integer A/B bugs in the loops, often used and also if you just put a wait in one of them, all of them fucks up litterly. But here's my question. If I've checked that there are no waits in these fucking loops then it should be ok or maybe there is a third bug that crashes the shit down? Cause I'm really tired using another integer mostly indexed 3 or creating another one isntead.

Thought I might continue as I've done so far but just asking for my experience I havent used integer A very much so dunno about the "real" deals if you get my point.

 

[Silvenon]

There are no bugs with it afaik, even when using waits. You can only be using it in a wrong way. In "for every unit in unit group" actions you can't use waits because they won't work, maybe you mixed those two.

It really helps if you post the code and explain the problem.

 

[baassee]

no no no no there is a bug I know it, ask any spellmaker and check mostly the spells in the spellsection that are MUI that they use other variables then integer A and you get a point there too

 

[Storyyeller]

The A and B loops in the trigger editor use a blizzard variable for the loop variable, so if there is a wait inside the loop, and another function alters those blizzard variables, obviously the original loop will get messed up.

Solution: Use Custom Script for the looping

 

[baassee]

haha I was not going for a solution thought I know it myself so don't worry about that just wanted to get confirmed about the teory

thanks

 

[Silvenon]

That's not a bug. To me a bug is something screwed up that happens for no apparent reason. In this case it's logical that it gets screwed up.

There is no reason to alter those blizzard variables, why would you want that?

Oh yeah...I just figured it out, if there are multiple loops going on, then it gets screwed up. But that's completely logical (if you know JASS).

 

[Mechanical Man]

The thing is, that A/B variables are globals so it's obvious why waits screw them up. (and not only waits)

 

[baassee]

(and not only waits)

and what is the rest then? casn someone tell me what happens like in detail? (a)

 

[Rmx]

They does Bug, but not in a way that you are talking about.

They BUG, because they are GLOBALS and if another trigger uses For Loop A or B, then it will BUG, but you can use them like you said NEST them in each other like A - B - C - D and they will not 100% bug if they are not used in another spell that may collide with this spell or system.

 

[baassee]

blah there I got my answer

 

[Silvenon]

What I was talking about is that it's not a bug, this is the question of MUI, and non-MUI is not a bug. Since you only have those two, A and B, you would have to create extra variables.

 

[Reaper2008]

Integer A/B loops are useful for indexing systems.

 

[Rmx]

Integer A/B loops are useful for indexing systems.

No they are not, they could cause BIG BUGS, that's why every indexing system don't use these Integers and use custom ones, maybe a map contain these integers, thus will bug the spell that uses these integers ...ext..

 

[Reaper2008]

Nah, they'll bug if used in more than one loop. So, for 2 indexed spells its ok.

 

[Septimus]

They BUG, because they are GLOBALS and if another trigger uses For Loop A or B, then it will BUG, but you can use them like you said NEST them in each other like A - B - C - D and they will not 100% bug if they are not used in another spell that may collide with this spell or system.

Yes, sometimes even if 2 spells use loop A/B without any wait. It could possibly cause a malfunction at either 1 of the 2 spells, it happens before to me.

 

[Rmx]

Yes, sometimes even if 2 spells use loop A/B without any wait. It could possibly cause a malfunction at either 1 of the 2 spells, it happens before to me.

YES that is what i am trying to explain !

 

[Reaper2008]

Never said it doesn't, thats why I only use each once per map. (And never combined together)

 

[baassee]

Never said it doesn't, thats why I only use each once per map. (And never combined together)

thought if you are a skilled triggerer you use loops more then once ...

seems that this went to be a hot topic ...

 

[bboy-tiger-]

Before I also used A/B for indexing, great for MUI things.

 

[Reaper2008]

Great for MUI GUI, but I use jass now.

 

[Rmx]

Why do you use A and B ,,, make a Custom Integer and problem is solved !

Only use A / B .. the following conditions is met...

The spell is instant ... so it is MUI and have a 0.00000000000001% chance to cause bug.

Once in ur map for indexing .. and that's IT.

If you have a system that players are not allowed to cast spells at the same moment ..

 

[Vulcano]

if you really want waits inside loop you can do something like this:

• trigger 1
  • Events
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • For each (Integer A) from 1 to 10, do (Actions)
      • Loop - Actions
        • Trigger - Run trigger 2 <gen> (checking conditions)

• trigger 2
  • Events
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • -------- blabla --------
    • Wait 2.00 seconds
    • -------- blabla --------

 

[Storyyeller]

That wouldn't have the same affect though, because the wait is in a different thread from the loop, unlike the original.

Your best bet is to just use Custom Script