iGen

[NoobMapmaker]

Any ideas on when this the next version will be coming out?

 

[Eccho]

Hanky has been away lately. All you can do is to wait patently, I'm afraid.

 

[Darkt3mpl3r]

He's working on it.

 

[dardas]

wow.. this is weird, i tried to save, everything worked, all fine..
i loaded, hero came right,nothing got deleted..
NOTHING got deleted.. not even older hero ^^

 

[Darkt3mpl3r]

wow.. this is weird, i tried to save, everything worked, all fine..
i loaded, hero came right,nothing got deleted..
NOTHING got deleted.. not even older hero ^^

This is not what a code generator does. It does not delete units. But it does create a crypted code that can be used to encrypt hero data.

 

[Hanky]

Finally updated the CodeGen.

Sorry guys that it took so long. =(

Edit:
Update to 2.0a!

 

[baassee]

Finally it's up, you renamed it too

 

[Hanky]

Yes it took some time. But Im happy that I had the time to finally release it.

Hm, yeah. I didn't wanted that my codegen got the same name like the codegen from TriggerHappy. So I named it iGen, I also think the name is kinda funny.

 

[baassee]

I bet you work for Apple Hanky!

 

[Etzer]

Do you think this is better then CodeGen?

 

[Hanky]

@baasee
For sure soon i'll release iJass xD

@Etzer
If you mean by "CodeGen" the system TriggerHappy coded then I have to say that both systems are different. Im pretty sure that I use an other compression method than TriggerHappy etc.

Well I don't want to say "my sistem is teh 1337 shit!!!11". I think TriggerHappys system got some pros and my system got also some pros.

Just read the documentation (There's also a part which list all features.) and work abit with the system and Im sure you'll find your favorite yourself.

 

[ChaosKnight]

"Just another Save/Load system"...

Puh..

Cool one but.. Nah, not more of them.

vJASS, JASS, GUI, MUI, MPI, SUI, SPI...

God save me.
There gotta be like tons of them of there.

 

[CHA_Owner]

Yea im loving this system im still testing it to the limit and not shure but next thing im testing is saving a units health in an integer and loading it from real to make shure it converts and saves correctly.

 

[acomc]

well done, it saved me a lot of time

simple and useful examples, easy to be understood with explanations, as well as the flexibility for adjustments to my own settings

5/5 no doubt

 

[Hanky]

Thank you =)

New version is up. Enjoy.

Edit: New version is up. I fixed a bug which made is impossible for users to save some stuff. But now everything should be alright. Thanks to acomc for reporting me this bug.

 

[empty789]

i got a problem: when i edit your code to save more items/otheritems, even if i add only 1 item, the normal editor crashed and the genpack found errors and stuck... i dont know what to do :/ any1 has a idea, how i can fix my problem?

 

[Hanky]

Could you please show me the error log of the genpack?

 

[baassee]

Bet he doesnt have latest JASSHelper.

 

[IronForge]

Help! Syntax error at line 1787

static if iGen_keyEncryption then

        set .codeString=.key.Encrypt+.codeString+pex
        static if iGen_keyEncryption then
            set index=StringLength(.codeString)
            set csg  =null
            loop

 

[Hanky]

Just download the latest JassHelper.

 

[IronForge]

how? it comes bundled with my JGNP which I think I have the newest version of. How come they are not in the downloads section is beyond me.

 

[lmfaocj]

I am using JASS NewGen Pack 1.5d, and I downloaded the latest jasshelper...
But I am getting this error.

Line 697: Syntax Error

        static if iGen_keyEncryption then

 

[Hanky]

If you really got the latest JassHelper version which is 0.A.2.B then everything should work alright. At least it does for me. (You can get the latest Version here: http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=88142)

If it still won't work for you just remove the static prefix in that line.

 

[lmfaocj]

If you really got the latest JassHelper version which is 0.A.2.B then everything should work alright. At least it does for me. (You can get the latest Version here: http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=88142)

If it still won't work for you just remove the static prefix in that line.

Thanks I messed up. so i had to reinstall newgen then reinstall the latest jasshelper...

Edit: Can I use the SNL you made? For some reason when i type -save nothing happens
And I don't know Jass.

 

[IronForge]

Oh I thought jasshelper only comes with jngp. Updated, works fine. However can this code be used to save 5 heroes per player?

 

[Hanky]

@lmfaocj

Sure you can use the example script. SNL is a perfect help for guys who just know GUI.

@IronForge

Nope the JassHelper have to be updated manually.

Sure the iGen is able to save as many integers as you want. That means you just need to save in one parameter the id or array index of the unit. Look at the examples I made. Make a array with unittypes. There you add all your heroes you want. (Dont forget to have one empty herotype. It would be the best if "0" is the empty one.) After you have done that you need to add a loop to the save/load trigger which search the index number of the unittype. The index number can be easily saved in one of the parameters of the iGen.

Remember that you are able to increase the maximal parameter size of the iGen. (Remember that you have to set the maximal parameter size also in the constants of the system)

I hope that are enough information for you how to use this system. Remember that everything can be converted to an integer. And the iGen takes integer and compress/convert/encrypt them to a string.

 

[IronForge]

Problem is I cant even get it to work lol please tell me which trigs i need to modify

 

[Hanky]

Depends if you just want to use this GUI interface or the real system. But since I guess you are using GUI you'll need this triggers:

iGen x2 (This is the main system code.)
SNL TestScript (This is for people who don't know GUI. It's made very simple how you can see.)

and the triggers which you have to modificate:

InitTypes (This trigger is there to set up those array.)
Save GUI (This trigger is there to save stuff. But this trigger will need the SNL Testscript trigger.)
Load GUI (This trigger is there to load stuff. But this trigger will need the SNL Testscript trigger.)

Normaly you just need to read the documentation and look at those examples. That's why I added them. I got no time to make a general tutorial how to save that and this. Since how I already said everything (like a/an unit/hero, ability etc.) can be converted to an integer.

 

[tonton302]

this save/load works all right in your map but when i go to test in my map it has like 1660 errors and thers like 10 for each line and wen i try to fix even more pop up any suggestions? or any thread on how to import/fix this problem

thx

tonton302

 

[dardas]

Thads odd.. i save the system, in jass new gen pack..
and i get syntax error at line 723,

"static if iGen_keyEncryption then"

didnt really look at it further, i redownloaded the system, did everything.. but sill, couldnt understend why.. any help?(really need this for my orpg.. tried to learn to do save/load system my self.. failed, with this, its really easy.. and i really need it.
Thanks in advance.

 

[Hanky]

Well how you maybe already read in this thread you need the last version of the JassHelper which is 0.A.2.B.

If it still won't work just remove the static prefix. So that there's "if iGen_keyEncryption then" instead of "static if iGen_keyEncryption then".

 

[lmfaocj]

I know I am being annoying but, when I type -save it gives me a code but the code doesn't work. Is it because I maybe messed up on the parameter or something? I changed most of the variables to ones that I already used it has nothing to do with that right?

 

[Hanky]

Could you attach your map? Then I could take a look on it.

 

[IronForge]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=3adwhn

 

[Hanky]

I'll try to check your map next week since this weekend I won't have any time. Sorry.

 

[lmfaocj]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=kx5md9

Sorry about spaming you in pm

 

[Hanky]

I'll take a look at your maps as soon as possible. Can't say a date yet.

 

[rnjm]

it can saved items with many charges???

 

[Hanky]

Both have to be saved in two different parameter.

The item need one save parameter and the number of charges need a save parameter too.

 

[rnjm]

but how??

 

[baassee]

but how??

First you read the examples, Hanky made a great GUI example with a JASSified simple generator that uses the iGen.

The thing I love with this system is that you can customize the save & load order perfectly.

 

[Nestharus]

Yea, this kinda fails..

Tested this code

struct tester extends array
    private static method onInit takes nothing returns nothing
        local iGen_Generator gen = iGen_Generator.create()
        local integer index      = 0
        local string lib = "0123456789ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ"
        call gen.setParameter(1,1000001,lib)
        call gen.setParameter(1000,1001,lib)
        call gen.setParameter(100,101,lib)
        call gen.setParameter(300,301,lib)
        call gen.setParameter(1,2,lib)
        call gen.setParameter(0,2,lib)
        call gen.setParameter(7,17,lib)
        call gen.setParameter(10,11,lib)
        call gen.setKey("",lib)
        call gen.encrypt()
        call DisplayTimedTextToPlayer(GetLocalPlayer(), 0, 0, 60, gen.getCode())
        call gen.destroy()
    endmethod
endstruct

The length of the code was 17 characters... that's just plain huge.. I encoded the exact same thing w/o encryption in 7. With encryption, I'd be adding a max of 4-5 chars (checksum*player hash sum, encoder id, +1 bit with salting), so that's 11-12 compared to 17 ;|.

This was the code with the above stuff
0QX6HPTOQNNNLRQ99

This was after I changed
call gen.setParameter(7,17,lib) -> call gen.setParameter(5,17,lib)
0QX6HPTOQNNNLPQ8U


If you can't encode all of the above data in 7 chars w/o security and read it back, then your code is already too big.

 

[Hanky]

Well it seems you dont get the system code. First of all if you set the range to "1000001" then the code will automaticly use the maximal size. That means "1000001" got 7 characters. 7/2 (if you use the right char library) = 3.5 -> 4 (something like this). And the code won't care if the value is just 1. Sure in some cases this is stupid... that is why I was working on a new version where this whole "set your max value" stuff isnt there anymore .

But by the way the char library you used in your example is kinda small... so don't expect a good compression at all.

 

[Nestharus]

Ahem, I encoded the exact same thing in 7 chars with that exact same key.

I don't think you get that this system is pretty bad ;P. It's not about the key, it's just that the thing is plain bad and the encryption is failure. You do know that using placeholders is really dumb compared to just compacting the integers into one int If you compact, you maximize space, thus getting to that magical 7 char value. Until you can get to 7 chars w/o any security, your system will continue to be bad >.>. I can do encryption and get radical changes with 1 value at the cost of 0 bits btw.

My suggestion is to update this to use http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/jass-functions-413/system-bigint-188973/ as it'll cut the size of your save/load codes in half =). Not only that, it'll simplify your system and make things easier on yourself.

I disabled as much of the security in your system as I could, but your function was hard to read : (.

Notice that Pipedream's save/load system at wc3c does the stuff properly. It gets exact same output as the BigInt lib does =).

//Is your save/load system any good? Is a save/load system on a forum any good?
//Save the following data with 0 security enabled and check the code length
//The data can be encoded with 7 characters with 0 security.
//iGen does it in 17 w/ security (prob 15-16 w/o)
//CodeGen does it in 16 w/o security
//PipeDream's Optimal Save System does it in 7 chars w/ 0 security, exact same output as BigInt

//Ensure that the key is 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
struct tester extends array
    private static method onInit takes nothing returns nothing
        local Base encryptKey = Base["0123456789ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ"]
        local BigInt int = BigInt.create(encryptKey)
        local string s
        
        //1 out of 1000000 (1000000+1)
        //if it takes a parameter with a size, be sure to type in 1000000 or 1000000+1
        call int.add(1,0) //encode 1 (max doesn't matter as this,
                                    //is first, so put biggest value here)

        call int.multiply(1000+1)
        call int.add(1000,0) //encode 1000

        call int.multiply(100+1)
        call int.add(100,0) //encode 100
        
        call int.multiply(300+1)
        call int.add(300,0) //encode 300

        call int.multiply(1+1)
        call int.add(1,0) //encode 1

        call int.multiply(1+1)
        call int.add(0,0) //encode 0

        call int.multiply(16+1)
        call int.add(7,0) //encode 7

        call int.multiply(10+1)
        call int.add(10,0) //encode 10
        
        set s = int.toString()
        call int.destroy()

        //display the code ^_^
        call DisplayTimedTextToPlayer(GetLocalPlayer(), 0, 0, 60, s)
    endmethod
endstruct

Also here's a tutorial on salting and hashing-> http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/tutorial-submission-283/advanced-data-encryption-189120/

That'll give you much better encryption at a lower cost (if you are actually doing any encryption).

 

[Hanky]

Yea how I said the method Im using isn't the best one. But I got no free time to update the script... maybe in some weeks or months..

And to your last sentence. Sure it do encrypt/decrypt stuff... what else should it do?

Maybe I'll write a bigger reply to your post later... got no time now.

 

[Nestharus]

For encryption, I suggest scrambling and hashing where the hash is dependent upon the player name.

But really, you should first fix the major issue of the code size, and that can easily be fixed by making it run off of BigInt =).

 

[Nestharus]

So what should be done with this and the other save/load systems now...

people are still using them... it's easier to just get rid of them rather than to tell people not to use them at every turn.

Only 2 save/load systems are needed now, Encoder and an Encoder plain JASS version (no vjass), but I will prob never code #2 ;p. The rest should just be gotten rid of.

 

[Hanky]

Maybe but approved is approved. You know (;

And you aren't a mod so yeah what did you say xD

 

[Nestharus]

My argument is: why should something be approved that should never ever be used? : p

No, other save/load systems should be gotten rid of because they will just mislead people. You forget that beginners can't tell the difference between save/load systems, and optimal this and optimal that will just make them look for the easiest system possible rather than the best (because they think they're all around the same).

Approved is approved is a bad thing to uphold... if something is approved and something else comes along that's better, the first one should be graveyarded so that people don't accidentally use it. Why on earth would you want to lay traps on the site? It just makes it harder for map makers to find the good systems out of the thousands of bad systems and it makes it impossible for beginners to use anything that's any good.

I can see different systems that do the same things with pros and cons, but different systems that do the same thing where one is just plainly superior to another is just bad. I am speaking from experience here... back when I was a beginner, I ended up using AceHart's over Pipedream's because I couldn't tell the difference between them. This should have been graveyarded the day that Pipedream's came out (if it came out before his).

You shouldn't be proud of a system that nobody should ever use, rather you should be pushing this to be graveyarded as well. I know that I would push a system that I wrote to be graveyarded if another one came out that was better.

I honestly don't care what you think, i don't care who you are, I don't care about the rules, and I don't care about the mod's opinions. I care about the map makers who are looking through dozens of systems that all do around the same thing (only the vets end up knowing which ones are the best). Look at all of the save/load threads in World Editor Help Zone. People are still using iGen (some just starting in the last few days). They shouldn't be using this system, it is that simple >.<.

I don't play maps that use save/load systems other than Encoder now. I'm tired of typing in 50 char codes when they could just as easily be 25 characters. I find it stupid how stubborn so many people are being about this. I'm trying to put a stop to the 50 char codes, and you should be trying to put a stop to them as well. Supporting iGen is supporting 50 char codes over 25 char codes. I don't care about map makers complaining how hard a system is to use either, I primarily care about code length. It's the players that have to type in those codes.

Regardless, an approved system, if inferior to new ones, should be graveyarded as soon as possible so that people don't end up using it.

And you aren't a mod so yeah what did you say xD

Who cares, you should see all the fights I get into with mods all the time.

I fight for giving 0 credit for resources used in maps.
I fight for getting rid of systems for newer systems, not just keeping things approved because they were good enough to be approved in the first place.

One of the things I warned people about is that I would be fighting for every single resource having to do with save/load on every site to be graveyarded and replaced with Encoder when v2 of it was finished, and I am keeping my word.

= )

 

[BlargHonk]

I fight for giving 0 credit for resources used in maps.

No.

I fight for getting rid of systems for newer systems, not just keeping things approved because they were good enough to be approved in the first place.

Yes, but lazy.

One of the things I warned people about is that I would be fighting for every single resource having to do with save/load on every site to be graveyarded and replaced with Encoder when v2 of it was finished, and I am keeping my word

No. Instead the makers should be persuaded to switch.