Idea: Future Hero/es

EpicCraft · Mar 21, 2011

I had an idea/need to post something asking if you guys plan to have extra heroes? (Fel Orc, ally/your hero, undead ect.)

I recomend that we atleast meet 1 other hero because being with one hero the whole time gets boring and reduces replay value. Here is an idea, a ranger aprentice of Sylvannas Windrunner.

Please consider getting a future hero in the project and share your thoughts.

MrStormyZ · Mar 22, 2011

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...051/?prev=of=rating&search=archer&d=list&r=20
Recommended Model

we can attach her with the mission with the High Elf Corp thing you once mentioned
best meeting place is the village place before Quelthalan

Slayer14 · Mar 22, 2011

Hmm, meeting another Hero... That would make the game more enjoyable I suppose. I like that model there Stormy. With that, I'm sure we can come up with something. We need some kind of background story about how she came about and how she became Sylvanas' apprentice.

Slayer14 · Mar 22, 2011

Idea: Perhaps her mother was best friends with Sylvanas and one day, a group of enemies (maybe Bandits for instance) raided Quel'Thalas. They pillaged the villagers' homes and injured many of the townspeople, only to steal from them and raid their homes.

Eventually, the guards of Quel'Thalas run off the Bandits, and everyone remains outside, in despair about everything that they have lost. Meanwhile, the apprentice is but a child, standing next to her mother, who was mercilessly slaughtered by the Bandits. And the only valuable thing that remains her that the Bandits did not get a chance to steal is the apprentice's mother's pendant.

The apprentice takes the pendant and becomes Sylvanas' apprentice, who has sworn to avenge the child of her mother's death by teaching the apprentice everything her knows to allow the apprentice to go to the Bandit Lord and kill him herself.

EpicCraft · Mar 23, 2011

i found that story quite interesting but personally, i didn't really like the model because, well it just didn't look right.
I was looking more of a shandris thing but i saw that and, well if the archer on that horse were replaced with something looking more advanced and stornger then it'd be better.
As slayer said, if the apprentice were trained by sylvannas then i doubt she'd be on a horse though (which is my point), apart from all of that, it's awesome.

WillofKhrone · Apr 1, 2011

Perhaps, if your going with an apprentice of Sylvanas, a submission right before you reach the battle with Undead Sylvanas would be. . .

WillofKhrone · Apr 1, 2011

Deception

Sylvanas' Apprentince has left during the night! Taking all of your mana carts with her, you find a note impaled into a tree with a arrow.

"My master is near. Goodbye, fools!"

WillofKhrone · Apr 1, 2011

With the heroine's running away, the high elves are very confused. You may choose to either look for the Mana Carts or chase after the heroine. If you chase after the heroine, you will find her covered in blood impaled into a tree with a boney arrow in a blight full glade. A small banshee floats infront of her, slowly drifting around humming,
"Soon I can return . . . Soon I shall join my master . . ."
You can choose to end her life or simply leave. If you end her life, you gain the Mother's Pendant, an item that gives increased magic regeneration in a radius around the weilder, as to make up for the loss of Mana Carts.

WillofKhrone · Apr 1, 2011

If you chase after the Mana Carts, you find most of them in blightfull groves with undead around them. If you defeat the undead, you gain back the mana cart. However, the last mana cart is held by a human paladain, Hurthous Azrek, a member of the broken Silver Hand. After you defeat him, he begs for mercy, offering to teach your men the arts of the paladins if you let him live. He is a level 7 human paladin with healing spells. You gain the abiltiy to train Blood Elven Warpriests, with heal and restore, a spell that restores mana to the target. However, if you go this way, you will have to face Sylvanas' Apprentice as well upon your fight with Sylvanas.

Slayer14 · Apr 1, 2011

Hmm, that's a pretty good story there Will!

I like the fact that you have two choices.

WillofKhrone · Apr 1, 2011

! Yay, you called it a good story! I'm trying to improve on my writing right now, so yeah!

I gave two choices so it's not like, "UGH, stop telling me what to do, computer!" <--- I've literaly said that.

WillofKhrone · Apr 3, 2011

Idea: Troll Haters / Troll Friend

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On my IDEA on mission 2, there is an option where you can ally the trolls, or defeat the trolls. Depending on what you do you may get different effects.
If you choose to defeat all the trolls, you gain Troll Hater. Certian heros / units cannot be gained if you are a Troll Hater, however you can only gain certian units / hero's if your a Troll Hater.
If you choose to ally the living trolls, you gain Troll Friend. Certian heros / units cannot be gained if you are a Troll Friend, however you can only gain certian units / hero's if your a Troll Friend.
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WillofKhrone · Apr 3, 2011

Idea: Allied Tribes

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During mission 2, if my idea would be used, you may choose to ally one of three tribes. The Bloodshank, the Marshclaw, or the Doomwhistle. Each has a different style (STR / AGI / INT, in that order.) These accompany you on certian missons.

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Idea: Allied Tribe: Doomshank Tribe

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Allied tribes accompany you during certian missions. They are uncontrollable, however will pester the enemies. If they have all their units destroyed, this will no longer accounter you. If you are allied with Doomshank Tribe.

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WillofKhrone · Apr 3, 2011

Idea: Marshank Tribe

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Marshshank Tribe will attempt to weaken your enemy before your attack. If you type -pester, they will attack with all of their units other than workers. These only appears on certian missions.

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WillofKhrone · Apr 3, 2011

Idea: Doomwhistle Tribe

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Doomwhistle Tribe units are focused on effects and making you yourself do better. They will occasionly pool you and will flank the enemy if it attacks you. Doesn't start fights if it can be avvoidied. Only appears on defensive missions.

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EpicCraft · Apr 3, 2011

thats very awesome :grin:

If you all wanna know, i've almost finished troll tech tree but i can make more for the three tribes if it is accepted.
I am also going to add in Stormy's idea (for abilities) so it can be tested and everyone can look at it.

WillofKhrone · Apr 4, 2011

Idea: Troll Haters; Orzum the Destroyer

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Orzum the Destroyer is a powerfull melee sub-hero. You have control over him, but he has no units. If he dies, he is not revived on the next mission. Unable to be revived. Starts at level 4. His spells capitalize on healing himself while dealing damage, at the cost of his health initally. He has spells like Doomslash, an attack that deals damage in an AoE around him for 2% of his maximum health, or something, healing him for the the amount of targets hit. You may only gain his aid if you have killed atleast 250 trolls.

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WillofKhrone · Apr 4, 2011

Idea: Twilight Champions

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You may only gain the ability to train Twilight Champions if you are a troll hater and have killed more then 100 trolls in misson two. They are a group of paladins, using certian spells to give themselves an advantage while worsening the opponant.

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Slayer14 · Apr 4, 2011

Wow! Thanks for quintuple posting! You know, just to let you know, that was somewhat unnecessary. You would have only needed about 3 posts. Four posts at the most. I know that stupid character limit gets on everyone's nerves, but try not to cover a whole page next time.

(~10 posts per page, you got 7 on this one.) Just saying.

But anyway, nice ideas! I really like the one about Orzum the Destroyer and being a "Troll Hater". The different tribes are cool too. They are like different special abilities that you can use.

MrStormyZ · Apr 4, 2011

Allying with a Troll ? I wouldn't agree on that one, The story is coming from the Wc3Storyline and I really don't believe we can get ourselves that further away from it
but Troll Tribes can be used as enemies.

Arisaitou · Apr 4, 2011

awesome!!!

we can change the course, make a cinematic so that they will plead an alliance so the trolls will help, by doing a quest

Allying the trolls will give you a quest, while using them as enemies will be easier
but allying the trolls would give the player a morale increase

Slayer14 · Apr 4, 2011

MrStormyZ said:
Allying with a Troll ? I wouldn't agree on that one, The story is coming from the Wc3Storyline and I really don't believe we can get ourselves that further away from it
but Troll Tribes can be used as enemies.

Hmm, yeah. I do like the special abilities thing however. Perhaps there could be another way to gain them, or just have it where you start out with the special abilities at the beginning of the game.

I do agree with Stormy though now that he mentioned it. Trolls don't make very good allies for the High Elves.

Arisaitou · Apr 4, 2011

I see :|
any ways
i did my best |

WillofKhrone · Apr 4, 2011

It's not to far of a stretch, because earlier in WC3, Jaina, Tyrandere, and Thrall allied together to defeat the enemy called Archimonde.

EpicCraft · Apr 5, 2011

then they forged the great alliance...
I think the fact that since they had a chance at defeating Archimonde, they would go further... they also sacrificed their immortality...
High Elves with trolls is... well, what stormy and slayer said.

Arisaitou · Apr 5, 2011

back on topic, now about the alliance , H-Elves should have an ally of what race?

MrStormyZ · Apr 5, 2011

High Elves are Heading near Dalaran according to most of the plans so yea Humans will be helping us we can put some small group of them at random places, perhaps in cages,
but then again why do undead need Cages.. THEY HARVEST SOULS!!
hmm hey I got an Idea
it's kind of an update to the one I made before
Save 1 out of 2 Villages is our quest right ? so how about one Village be a Human one and One be an Elf one, and we get to control the one we save.. needs polishing as the Elves should run to save their own kin.

ImperialShadow · Apr 6, 2011

lol good stormy.a very good idea.since human and elf are alliance there should be no problem

MrStormyZ · Apr 6, 2011

to see the idea this is the wrong thread xD
this needed to be in the M2 Discussion
anyways for Hero, as many of you guys like to get wild I say we have a Bandit( Yes an EBBBEL BANDIT!) as our 2nd Hero just for Mission to preferably
he was being attacked by Undead somewhere and we save him, so he says he will ally with us until we get out of that area, maybe we can have some sort of kill him mission later on too over the same map or further one.

Slayer14 · Apr 6, 2011

I see... Stormy. Well, someone is going to have to re-post that in the right section then... :ogre_icwydt:

Hmm, you're suggesting that we have the Elves ally with a Bandit? I can't completely reject that idea, since the Elves have had many odd allies when they became the Blood Elves (e.g. Naga and Illidan (who you all know rulez

)). But I think it'll be a little too early in the story to have an odd ally.

MrStormyZ · Apr 7, 2011

the Odd ally can last until the end of the mission we found him, he seems odd but at the same time he is also Human for which they might think of co-operating for once in life to save their skins

but yea I just posted that cause everyone seemed to like Wild Stuff

best Future Hero for us in my estimation is a Ranger, you can say Sergent or Commander of the Elf Ranger Corp. thing someone mentioned earlier,
she can be with us until the Quest till Quelthalan/Dalaran ( or where ever

)

Arisaitou · Apr 7, 2011

or maybe they will hire a normal/high/whatever class mercenary? that in the end will be Dalos's best friend?

or even they paid a troll so that troll would join the High Elves and that troll will be it's scout

ImperialShadow · Apr 7, 2011

lol scare troll will betray us XD

MrStormyZ · Apr 7, 2011

meah u people can't Give up the Damn Troll now can ya

to see to it the Forest Trolls are Hireable so how about we get to chose out of 2 Heroes like we get a Tavern somewhere
(this BrainStorming is getting Intense!)

ImperialShadow · Apr 7, 2011

how about the human heroes?we rescued that people(HeroFarmer)from the village that destroy.That farmer will help us in training some villager used sword and spear since they are no magic for high elves.that farmer was half breed.Half elves half human

Arisaitou · Apr 7, 2011

We shouldnot use a tavern
the ally should be according to the storyline right?
Should be dalos's friend/rival(friends)/alliance leader/hired mercenary through story/saved prisoners

MrStormyZ · Apr 7, 2011

Hero Farmer ? :S well what can his abilities be Pick Hammer (Bash),Herbal Aura(Healing) ?
nah I wouldn't agree

Oh God stop it with the Half Breed

I promise I won't stop you from using it when you make "Story of Half Breed"

Slayer14 · Apr 7, 2011

Arisaitou said:
We shouldnot use a tavern
the ally should be according to the storyline right?
Should be dalos's friend/rival(friends)/alliance leader/hired mercenary through story/saved prisoners

Right. I disagree with the Tavern idea. We will find the hero somewhere along the story, but not in a Tavern.

MrStormyZ said:
Oh God stop it with the Half Breed I promise I won't stop you from using it when you make "Story of Half Breed"

Lol, wow. Again? Well, I don't plan on making SoHB anytime soon. He really likes that idea doesn't he?

ImperialShadow · Apr 8, 2011

well it not really a farmer.that farmer captured by troll when he doing farming things.he was a Human Captain that has retired for 1 year.he and his people(2 or 3 footman)were captured by the trolls.

MrStormyZ · Apr 8, 2011

ImperialShadow said:
well it not really a farmer.that farmer captured by troll when he doing farming things.he was a Human Captain that has retired for 1 year.he and his people(2 or 3 footman)were captured by the trolls.

Do we have to Explain it, can't he just be some old Military Cap'n who takes all the Weaponry and joins us
I mean come on it's not some Fire Emblem or Pokemon or some weird GBA game which requires 100s of cinematics before you can play
We also need to keep the cinematics short and sweet cause some people don't like to see them long ones and at the same time would like to know the story.

Arisaitou · Apr 8, 2011

campaign needs cinematic for the players to feel the flow of the story.

and i got an idea

why not make the future hero is Dalos's Brother/Big brother/sister/big sister/father?

ImperialShadow · Apr 8, 2011

we can use that hero for rally the high elves villager.teach them fighting withount using magic.

MrStormyZ · Apr 8, 2011

we can use that hero for rally the high elves villager.teach them fighting withount using magic.

not a Bad Idea but we already have a STR Hero, Maybe he can be one Hero in one of the Towns.. Ok someone needs to Finalize the stuff here we have hit 5 pages

WillofKhrone · Apr 8, 2011

I personaly like my earliest idea on this thread.

Arisato · Apr 9, 2011

personally i like the farmer idea but change the background story of that farmer

Slayer14 · Apr 9, 2011

Hmm, a farmer Hero eh? I don't know. It'll be something new that's for sure.

Arisato · Apr 11, 2011

MrStormyZ · Apr 11, 2011

well I just happen to recall a game called Fire Emblem in which there was an Old farmer who joins you at a point who happened to be a General many years ago and left the army cause he couldn't pay much attention do his family cause of his job and his wife died
I found a good number of models that can work for the title and we can use a similar story

MrStormyZ · Apr 11, 2011

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...dateline&order=DESC&search=Worker&d=list&r=20
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/villager-man-122139/?prev=search=villager&d=list&r=20
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...lager-64170/?prev=search=villager&d=list&r=20
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/villagerman1-47370/?prev=search=villager&d=list&r=20
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...dateline&order=DESC&search=Worker&d=list&r=20
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...f=updateline&search=Worker&r=20&d=list&page=2

Slayer14 · Apr 11, 2011

I'd say between those models, it would have to be either the Laborer model by Dionesiist or the RPG Hero: Human Villager by Tenebrae.

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