I Require Inspiration! Space Elves.

[Elenai]

Hmmmz....Should I use the same format with the Space Quel'Dorei that I used with my swordsmen Elves?

I like the tall helmets, and I could easily change the armour skin and add futuristic elements.

 

[Massive_attack]

elite high guards should have high helmets. The grunts should have veils/light sort of helmets, the tactical infantry shouldnt wear helmets, but if you decide to have them wearing them, make sure to use swordsmen helmets.

Rangers should keep the cloak/mouthguard thing going.

Just my 2 cents as your concept guy

 

[Elenai]

I see....

I was thinking of giving all of them (minus a few models, or even a few versions) the tall helmet.

Like the rangers found at this site.
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/eldar/catalog/ELD_rangers.htm

 

[Massive_attack]

More hoods, less ponytails, probably no helmet *(to distinguish them as special forces)*

 

[Elenai]

Ok...I had a thought.

1st Light Infantry:basic: A regular rifleman. Like the Guardians. With helmets.

2nd Advanced Infantry:Range elite: Ranger with the hoods and ect. With hoods, and possibly helmets in a #2 version.

3rd:Advanced Infantry:Ranged Heavyweapon: Power armour....but this is all speculation....Mabye I should do as General Frank does and just make all kinds.

Also. I have created phase one of the Light Infantry model....This means its still not futuristic.

Oh, and my other Elven models are up....except the Knight.

 

[Massive_attack]

Oddly enough ive already made concepts for all of those:

*Note: The tacticals are probably more of a T1.5 unit, maybe you should make some sort of conscript type crap unit that will serve as cannon fodder instead, just an idea.
T1 ranged: Tacticals, about a page or two back
T2 ranged: Rangers (duh)
T3 ranged: shock troopers, posted a concept WAAY back, may need to dig to find it.

Good work releasing the other elves btw

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

hmm... perhaps, for the ranged infantry, you can give them something of a futuristic piece of eyewear, like a cyclops-esque visor, or something like this.

 

[Massive_attack]

Sure, why not ? Drop troopers are meant to have all the best equipment right ?

 

[Elenai]

The Elves will have excellent equipment...But I still need to meddle with the light infantry (ranged) before I can futureize it.

Mostly I need to make a gun model for it. And find either ingame skins that will fit, or make my own.

 

[Massive_attack]

Hmm, for a light infantry unit i think they should have something like a Sub Machine-gun. Probably light vests too, with little or no facial protection.

Honestly, i dont feel like concepting a light infantryman right now, i shall leave it in your most capable hands Elenai, good luck to you !

 

[Elenai]

Thankyou. I have already created the basic model for the LI. I will reveal the finished product in my gallery when the time comes.

 

[Massive_attack]

Any updates ? want more concepts ? Possible race ideas ?

This post is mainly a bump.

 

[Elenai]

Here is a WIP of the Light Infantry...I am planning on redoing it. But it shows a basic layout.

Cape, helmet, armour, possible hood, gun.....

And this is like an idea dump...so any ideas you have just keep pileing them here.

 

[Massive_attack]

Good things about the model:
+ Has a scout feeling, which helps get that T1 look youve been looking for
+ Good animation choice, the rifleman always looked rather inexperienced with his weapon, helps with that T1 feeling

Things that should be looked over:
- His helmet, i suggest using the swordsman one instead. (Or, use a ranger's hood with some kind of edited swordsman's helmet or facepeice instead)
- That armor could be a bit different, seems just a tad bit heavy for my tastes, but this is a minor feature.
- I absolutely hate the gun, im sorry but PLEASE just re-do that part, it really ruined it for me.

Ideas for the gun:
The only part i really hate about it is the brown stuff on it. looks far too much like wood. If you could replace that with some kind or marble or gold plating it would look alot better i think. another idea is to make parts of that glow blue with energy.

Note: dont take that too harshly, its just that those parts of the model seemed to really seem out of place for me, i felt a STRONG need to point that out. I really do like this model. the cape is excelent but those areas i highlighted just now could be looked over, im willing to forget the helmet but the weapon simply must be revisited.

 

[Elenai]

The gun is not wrapped my friend...Thats not even going to be the gun.

I will scratch model the guns that will be used.

And dont worry. I took no offence.

I am also going to remake the model. This was an alpha test, a concept, lay out, ect.

 

[NhazUl]

Well, Elenai, and about the robe, I suggest that it's not long to the feet, this elf can't run very fast...

 

[Massive_attack]

why would the elf be slowed by the size of his robe ? just asking.

 

[Kimbo]

They dont seem spacy to me, they still seem to have a medievil feel, just more pointy and sharp.

 

[Elenai]

Yeah...Right now it is still armourish, but I havent reskinned it, worked somethings, or added future stuff yet.

And NhazUl: The robe would not slow down the elf. Just look at the Noldor warriors from LOTR.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

To be quite honest, Elenai, those tall helms really disturb me, even moreso because they are a recurring theme in your armored elf models . I know they're based off the warhammer high elves, but it nonetheless makes the model rather hard to look at as a whole.

 

[Massive_attack]

I still think my alternative helmet models would be better suited to this unit.

 

[NhazUl]

Lol, this sharpened tall helmet would suit better to a space undead suicidal warrior that launches himself as a rocket...

Seriously, how do you imagine an elf with helmet like this in a small cockpit? It should be good if there were small lasers on the sides (the cheeks), serving as basic weapons. Or, for scanning devices.

"Cadett Lytarion tried to kiss his girlfriend Lyssala on the cheek, but was burned by her cheek-helmet-laser..." lol

 

[Elenai]

Blame Warhammer inspiration....And besides. Its more original looking than the same basic "captains helmet"...its much sleeker, and much more elven in my opinion.

But I have not said, nor decided on what the helmets will look like yet.

 

[Massive_attack]

we havent said you NEED to use the captains helmet, but really i do NOT like those tall helmets.

This is not warhammer in space ! its much more...sophisticated !

 

[Elenai]

That reply was not directed at you M-A...

Basically what I am wanting to do, is make an original looking, elven looking, creation that is not essentially a marine with a priest head.

So I will probably make the tall helms...shorter. But I will still keep the basic idea of them. Because I do like them.


Now then....ideas for heroes. Everyone should have fun ideas for this.

And remember...think Quel'Dorei (not Sin'dorei) and think elven....and think about my style as well.

 

[Elfsilver Lord]

Personally, if you are going to do tall helms, don't add two little wings. Just stretch it out in one long wing going from top to bottom.

Second off: Go away from the High Elves in Warhammer! Use the waywatchers! The Wardancers! If you are going to use that as an inspirtation, the Dragon Princes of Caledor is probably the coolest you can get. (Besides Tyrion)

 

[Elenai]

.....I am not sure I want to use Wood elves.....I dont like them very much.


And I have already considered the wing thing.

I plan on removing them for lower ranked soldiers. But they will most likley be used for higher ranking/heroes.

 

[NhazUl]

This should be good. And yes, the helmets must be in elven style. Keep the slim shape at all costs.

P.S. M_A, I know it's not 3D!

 

[Elenai]

I have begun work on the new version of the Light Infantry...it is not done yet.

But when it is close to complete I will show you guys.


....And yes...he will definately have a robe....because I like them

 

[Massive_attack]

Personaly if the light infantry are supposed to be of a lower rank than all other elven soldiers, why not make them have a swordsman's helmet ? its shortness shows the soldiers low rank, at least thats reasoning.

Still, this is your concept i guess, i may have fleshed out your story and added plenty of fanfiction, but yeah its yours and i do NOT have the final say.

 

[Elenai]

But of course M-A you are a major pillar in the story's creation. So your say, while not final, is incredibly valued.

 

[CoffinPuppet]

Elenai, may i ask you something?
Why do all of your Elves look like their twins? I mean, their face and so... Try making females or something what you haven't tried out till now
No offence though, your Models still look great !!

 

[Mor)L(unE]

You absolutely MUST make the models more skinny, almost as skinny as like they would be without armor. they dont look very elvish now

 

[Elenai]

Why make them skinny?...these are afterall Quel'Dorei...and they are not anorexic like other fantasy Elves.

For example...the Blood Mage...he does'nt look skinny.

And CoffinPuppet....Those elves are templated versions for uniformity (and because I like the priest head alot. I have made other elves before, but I shall not show them.

 

[Massive_attack]

I dont mind the preist head, i think you can keep using it, most of us dont mind that much.

 

[ike_ike]

What about a zealot type unit with energy emitting blades on its hand? So some sort of berserk little cannon fodder melee guy? Or maybe the workers ARE the tier one offensive units, like Undead?

 

[CoffinPuppet]

Why make them skinny?...these are afterall Quel'Dorei...and they are not anorexic like other fantasy Elves.

For example...the Blood Mage...he does'nt look skinny.

And CoffinPuppet....Those elves are templated versions for uniformity (and because I like the priest head alot. I have made other elves before, but I shall not show them.

I never said that it looks bad. IMO it's lame to always use parts of Models over and over again... Its like vomiting a Cake, just to eat it again...

 

[Massive_attack]

What about a zealot type unit with energy emitting blades on its hand? So some sort of berserk little cannon fodder melee guy? Or maybe the workers ARE the tier one offensive units, like Undead?

Dude, i already suggested this a few pages back, as a berserker.

 

[Mor)L(unE]

A berserker for the Elves, nah that would be waaaay to uncivilised since beserkers would be meaty muscled, screaming naked running fanatics with preferably axes, that almost the contrary of elvish

 

[Massive_attack]

take out "meaty muscles" and it could be an elf (imho)

 

[ike_ike]

Dude, i already suggested this a few pages back, as a berserker.

Sroree, I iz deslecksick

Is it possible to make some kind of whip attachment with particle emitters? If so, you could make a flagellant or some sort.If it's been suggested, you mayown my rep (of 2!)(Yay!)

 

[Elenai]

I cannot make a whip I am afraid. Its just not possible for me, it would require scratch animations...that I dont have.

 

[Massive_attack]

Flagelants are a bit.... extreme..... dont you think ?

 

[Elenai]

Perhaps...but the idea of over zealous worshipers of The Light, empowered and enraged into a frenzy of devotion and power....might work.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

Perhaps...but the idea of over zealous worshipers of The Light, empowered and enraged into a frenzy of devotion and power....might work.

Lol, yeah. That was my idea for my Light Elves of the techtree contest .

 

[Elenai]

It would make it somewhat original afterall...you know. Give the Elves a bit of an angry streak.

 

[NhazUl]

Hm... Anger and frenzy would suit better the Blood Elves...

The Quel'Dorei bring peace and serenity, not death and chaos.

 

[Elenai]

Blood Elves would have a frenzied attitude based on their addiction...

High Elves would have a frenzied attitude based on their devotion to the Light and hatred of the Undead.

 

[Icelink15]

...How about an "Elven Construction Personell" or "ECP"
It would be an advanced(or basic) worker. They wear heavy, full body armor; thus are slow. They are equipt with a "back pack" with mecha-arms. One is a laser tool for building and fighting, and the other is a claw, for holding resources. You would be able to upgrade them to have a jetpack attachment but it would only make them kinda jump, for escaping or "taking the high point." Another upgrade would be propellers(or something like that) for movement in water. Or you could combine them "Grav-Flux propultion." They would have oxygen tubes coming from their "backpack" and a suit, and a helm with a visor(Or a gasmask).
P.S. You could probably use tinker's backpack to start this unit's backpack off. They should also be able to attack while carrying resources.

Hydro-Electric Generator(Building) This building is like a farm that provides more food than the basic one. Only problem is: It must be built in the water. It would have an ability called "Overcharge" or "Surge" that would take a couple seconds; then the HEG would explode, thus dealing great damage to all nearby allies/enemies.

Defensive Scanner/Scanning System. This is a small, one person land craft. It can transform into a very small non-moving defensive structure. It has a large scan radius and warns you of approaching enemies. It uses an aura to make the enemy units glow; and if they were invisable, they're visable now. It would use one small gun weapon. It would use four metal legs to move around, and while mobile is a pretty weak unit; with only the ability to fight or run. When becoming immobile it's legs are thrusted into the ground, and a small scanner object comes out of the top of it. This unit would be built from one of two places: Townhall-type building, or a tank-constructor building. This unit can not survive on it's own, the most it can repel is 3 basic melee units(at most).

Tall me what you think! ^^

 

[Elenai]

Its not really....elf like.