i got more problems please answer

[Dracula]

i was making my map the other day and found the more i made the more bugs i get, i made so much bugs that i cant even fix it all, btw lets get to the point.

how do i add damage,attack speed,range,hit point,or mana to a unit, recommand to do it in normal WE if not do it in WEU.

thx,

 

[Ramza]

mana, attack speed, movement speed and hp can be added by giving the unit item abilities (dont have icons mostly) for range and damage u need WEU (damage can also be done by claws of attack for example, but then u get the green +damage)

 

[Dracula]

if i add a item effect does it count as a slot even tho it doesnt have a icon? and the damage will have +1 and i wanted to put it like 27-37 --> 28-38.

 

[Ramza]

no item abilities dont take space, most of em. if they do take space ull c the icon, like item spell imunity does take space. the damage wont go from 27-28 to 28-29, but to 27-28 +1
ull need WEU for how u want to display the extra damage

 

[Dracula]

hm.. am not really good with WEU, i still remember last time it protected my map for not reason, then i stop using it, but ill try using it.

 

[Ramza]

Always make backups when using WEU, maybe it wasnt protected but u tried to open with normal WE

 

[Dracula]

no it looks like protection, when i use the WEU triggers it gives me an error when saving and disable my WEU triggers and when i try to enable them they dont work, one of those protecting program is like that.

thats why i dont like WEU so much, and in the unit editer they have all those a-j its confusing by looking at it, am just too use to normal WE.

 

[Ramza]

ohh thats not cuz its protected, u just have to alow the advanced triggers (by opening WEU enchancer, edit ur map and check the advanced trigger box)

and yea i had to get used to alphabet thing to

 

[Dracula]

i cant open WEU enchanter and edit my map, it saids run time error, or so, btw i found a way to increase attack of unit with out WEU just add the rune effect of damage, it will stack up with the normal damage and doesnt show +1 and stuff.

 

[Ramza]

the rune effect? i dunno what u mean

 

[Dracula]

i dont know what the item is called, but the ability is Item-permanent damage gain, ill just add this to the unit.

and btw i have another question, how do i change a hero name? there doesnt seem to even have a trigger to start with it in the normal WE.

EDIT: hmm there doesnt seem to be a permanent defense gain ability, this is gonna be a problem

 

[Ramza]

no u cant change the heros name, why would u want that? only way is making two of the same heroes, one with a different name. then replace the unit and save stats and stuff as integer variables

for the defense, only way is using upgrades. only bad thing is that ull c a little number at the hero armor

 

[Dracula]

i just wanna make the hero name = players name thats all, and for the defense i think its impossible even tho everything should be possible, so ill just make it a +1 for that

EDIT: some more questions, how can i make the ability true sight an active skill, like where i have to use mana and last for a certain time.

and another thing, the ability with no icon doesnt give its bonus

 

[Ramza]

player - set name => unit - unit name

for the ability: just turn this * trigger on when casting the dummy spell

*
actions: add item ability (goblin scope)

and reomve this when time is over or anything


what item ability do u mean?

 

[Dracula]

no not the name for player, i wanna change the heros name, and the ability i wanna make active is "true sight" the one that views inisviable unit, i added mana and cooldown and its still a passive skill...

and how do i make a unit cast a custom spell?

 

[Ramza]

as i alrdy said, u cant change hero names

for the abillty, which i also alrdy said xD make a dummy ability, like warstmp and remove al dmg and stuff
when he casts the spell, give the unit more vision with triggers

 

[Dracula]

nono thats not what i mean, i just want true sight to be active, it wont work if i do it a dummy spell, cuz theres notting that give me true sight, its just the passive problem

 

[Ramza]

u will rly need a dummy spell, look, ill explain as easy as i can

events: unit casts a spell
conditions: ability being cast equal to (the dummy spell with mana cost and desription, but no damage and stuff)
actions: unit add ability => goblin scope extra sight range (or sumthing)

rly, this will work, u cant just change the passive skill

 

[Dracula]

is there a way to make a unit cast a custom spell with trigger? and the no icon skills dont work.

 

[Ramza]

ofcourse, u must order him to cat spell u based it on, u based it on warstomp, so order it to do issu order wwithout a raget => orc - cheiftina warstomp

 

[Ramza]

ofcourse, u must order him to cat spell u based it on, u based it on warstomp, so order it to do issu order wwithout a raget => orc - cheiftina warstomp

 

[Dracula]

ok if he casts watstomp and then what... i want him to cast something like a shock wave, but not that strong about like 5 damage only.

 

[Ramza]

now u want a shockwave? well, just base it on the real shockwabe and set damage to 5 instead of 75 (the neutral shockwave)

the warstomp dummy ability was for the vision thing

 

[Dracula]

hm..u can change the spell damage? and can i change the missile look also?

 

[Ramza]

ofcourse, just look for 'art - missle art'

 

[Dracula]

it doesnt work those r hero spells and i think i gotta give them the spell to use it, if its a hero spell then i have to learn it, if this is what u mean its not a good way.

 

[Ramza]

im not fully understanding u i think. so u want it to be a unit spell? then use the neutral hostile shockwave as base spell

 

[Dracula]

i have a spell like shockwave just alot weaker, and i want it to cast more than one time, since i cant make unit cast custom spell and u said to do it ur way, then when the unit cast the spell it doesnt keep casting.

 

[Ramza]

ahh, u want more schocks. make a dummy with the shockspell (based on chieftains shockwabe => make it unit sopell and 1 level) without manacost ofcourse. when the hero casts the Dummy spell (With description and manacost, cooldown, but without effects, dmg) create some dummys with that shockwave and order them to: unit - order last created unit to 'orc tauren chieftain - shockwave' positons of ......

if u base the dummy spell on neutral shockwave it wont work, cuz it only detects the chieftains spell

 

[Dracula]

no what i mean was that the spell orc->shockwave didnt even come out, this is what i did.

event
a unit begins casting a ability
comdition
ability being cast = shockwave(a custom version ofcouse)
action
wait 1 second
unit order casting unit to cast orc tauren chieftain shockwave at target point of ability being cast
wait 2 seconds
unit order casting unit to cast orc tauren chieftain shockwave at target point of ability being cast

 

[Ramza]

r u sure u based the custom shockwave on the chieftains hero shockwave?

 

[Dracula]

yea but my spell has cooldown or maybe i have to learn the spell

EDIT: o btw the vision spell we talked about earlier, i did this and it didnt work

event
unit begins casting a ability
condition
ability being casting = "vision"
action
unit remove visionD from casting unit
unit add vision to casting unit
wait 30seconds
unit remove vision from casting unit
unit add visionD from casting unit

visionD is the dummy spell that has mana cooldown and stuff but doesnt work
vision is the spell that can see and works
but i did those stuff and the spell didnt work, my character froze and doesnt move after casting, even tho 30second pass

 

[Ramza]

removing and adding abilities is no use, when the hero casts the vision spell just give him extra sight range with triggers. i even think theres a seperate function that makes units c farther

 

[Dracula]

no i dont want the hero to see far, i want it to see invisible units.

 

[Ramza]

do u keep changing the stuff u want, or i just read ur posts wrong? :? well whatever, u want it to c invisible units? then instead of the sight range ability, add the ability that the Gem of True Seeing has (Detector (Sentry Ward))

 

[Dracula]

i remove the dummy one for the old one after that the char froze that was the problem, i did add the spell tho as u can see on the other post.

 

[Ramza]

so everything is done now? or ur hero still freezes?

 

[Dracula]

no notting is done, the hero still freeze, and btw do u know how to do knock back? like a skill that pushs enemy away from u.

 

[Ramza]

i rly dont know why it freezes, maybe u should let me check the map (or did i alrdy ask that sometime?)

for the knockback

events: every 0.03 sec of the game
conditons:
actions: move 'variable unit' instantly to (point with polar offset) position of 'variable unit' offset by XX (i think sumthing like 30) facing 'facing of 'knockbackcaster unit'' degrees

turn that trigger off after XX sec and then turn a copied trigger on, but with the event every 0.05 sec (so it slides slower after a while, etc

 

[Dracula]

ok its doesnt freeze now, i didnt remove the dummy skill, and for somereason it doesnt freeze no more, for the knock back, what is the respon for a unit that got hit by a spell.

EDIT: btw i wanted a knock back like a warstomp everyone gets hit by the warstomp gets knock back.

 

[Ramza]

ah, then u just pick every unit around the casting unit (within AoF range) and do action, then run the trigger. i think it works like that

what do u mean the reason a target gets hit? how tis called? that is target unit of ability being cast, but u dont need that cuz warstmop doesnt target anything

 

[Dracula]

can i stack th events? like a unit starts an ability and every .50 seconds of the game together, cuz i dont think the target unit of ability being cast works with the every .50 second event.

EDIT: it didnt work those 2 different events, and when i cast it, it moves the casting unit, and move back 30 is a bit too much so ill change it to like 1-5.

 

[Ramza]

thats weird, events should be stackable (it says events) i stack em myself to

i dont know why the caster moves, can u show me the trigger u made?

 

[Dracula]

event-
a unit starts a effect of an ablilty
every .50 second of the game
condition-
ability being cast = knock back
action-
pick every unit in (units within 400 of (position of (casting unit))) and do (unit move (target unit of ablilty being cast) instantly to position of (target unit of ablilty being cast)) offset by 5 towards 0 degrees) facing (position of casting unit)

btw that long action is only 1 action

EDIT: with this trigger, they move but only once and they move to the right everytime, not behide them.

 

[Ramza]

instead of all those 'target unit of ability being cast' things, use 'picked unit' warstomp doesnt target anything

 

[Dracula]

..........that does target even with war stomp, but am saying the event .50 second didnt work, and they only move to one side....this is not good, the .50 second event isnt a problem i can fix that but i cant make units move behide them, like not always one spot

 

[Ramza]

well as i said. use picked unit instead of target unit of ability being cast. i know warstomp targets enemy units, but the WE only detects one target. just use picked unit, cuz u Pick every unit within range. and for the 0.5 event. just make a new trigger then like this:

events: every 0.5 sec of the game
conditions: ------
actions: trigger - run 'the spell'

 

[Dracula]

ok ill use pick unit the .50 second i can fix it without doing a new trigger, but how do i make units move behide them.......position of unit offset by 30 moves them to the right, all the time.

 

[Ramza]

when u cast the spell: pick every unit within XXX (AoE) range and do multiple actions:
-make picked unit face casting unit over 0 sec
-move picked unit instantly to position of picked unit offset by 30 facing 'facing of picked unit' degrees
-wait 0.3 sec
-move picked unit instantly to position of picked unit offset by 30 facing 'facing of picked unit' degrees
-wait 0.3 sec
-move picked unit instantly to position of picked unit offset by 30 facing 'facing of picked unit' degrees
etc (copy more of those two actions if u want them to slide further away

 

[Dracula]

i did what u told me to do, but i didnt put make unit facing casting unit, i dont think ill need that, and i put a condition of the unit group action, to make only works on enemy of casting unit, this is what i did

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i did the samething before, and this time notting happens when i cast it, and when i didnt put the condition it only moves the caster, and player 12 is what i use to test with, and player 12 is an enemy, but doesnt move.