How to set size of a special effect

[NightStalker]

For example I want my unit to hold a weapon in his hand but the model itself is quite small so it is not how I want it to be. It seems funny.

Another example I want my unit to hold a bucket in his hands, I create the bucket by special effects but it is so big it's the size of his upper body.

Is there way for me to change the special effect sizes?

 

[Wietlol]

Change the model in a model editor.

You can change the size of the unit which also changes the size of the attachment, but hey

In magos model editor, you can go to the editor window and select everything and scale it up/down.

 

[NightStalker]

I thought of it but won't the textures cause problem?

I can't change the size of the unit because one attachment is small while the other is big

 

[Ardenian]

Make the SFX an actual in-game unit and scale it

 

[Wietlol]

Textures work in very simple coordinates:
0,0 -> 1,0
.\/.......\/
0,1 -> 1,1

The upper left corner is (0,0)
The upper right corner is (1,0)
The lower left corner is (0,1)
The lower right corner is (1,1)

This will make any resolution (power2 square) texture be able to be used by the game.
Everything that uses pixels is just a n00b

Make the SFX an actual in-game unit and scale it

That is not possible with attachments... at least it is, but they won't be in the right position.

 

[NightStalker]

Tried that but custom units won't show up, even if i change the unit from the object editor and set its model to "WoodenBucket", the trigger takes its model from the mpq (i guess) bcz it had a path to it.

 

[Wietlol]

You do have to import the models or use local files (you have to enable them).

Local files are a saviour when doing stuff like this because every time you have changed your model, you have to re-import it into your map... which you dont have to do with local files

 

[Ardenian]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...ial-effects-manipulation-modification-168560/

Go to the Scale section, there is explained what I meant

"WoodenBucket" is not a valid path

 

[Wietlol]

I know what you meant, but you cannot use a unit as attachment on another unit's "right hand" attachment point.

So, use model editor.

 

[NightStalker]

You do have to import the models or use local files (you have to enable them).

Local files are a saviour when doing stuff like this because every time you have changed your model, you have to re-import it into your map... which you dont have to do with local files

I imported them. I don't want to mess with local files :/

I changed the model's size it is now good but I think its attachment point is now stuck where it was before. It is attached to the hand but it is displayed above the hand. What should I change to make it stand on his hands. There should be a reference point.

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/g...cation-168560/

Go to the Scale section, there is explained what I meant

"WoodenBucket" is not a valid path

This tutorial doesn't tell anything about custom models tho. It only uses in game models. Or I didn't see it.

 

[Ardenian]

In theory, you can, in practice using the model editor is the better option.

Open the Model in Magos, open the Model Editor, choose Select All ( everything should be green now) then go to Transformation and type in something to scale. Type in for x, y and z the same value and hit the button.

EDIT:

This tutorial doesn't tell anything about custom models tho. It only uses in game models. Or I didn't see it.

Since you create a custom model it should work the same way, if you add a valid path to the imported model.

 

[NightStalker]

Since you create a custom model it should work the same way, if you add a valid path to the imported model.

But guessing that you created the custom model and set its model to "WoodenBucket" imported to the map. Then you changed its sscaling value to ".4".

But there should be a problem here now I think, because it will take the path of this model not from the object editor but from its normal path. Then it should be again scaled as 1.

But changing the model from editor will work because it is now a small object.

I am just guessing though. I might be wrong

 

[Wietlol]

The origin may or may not be used as the center point of the scaling that you have done...
You may have to check out the options of the center point of the scaling when editting the model.

Maybe you would have to find the attachment point as well... which is not really obvious for me how to find it... which comes to the point that you need a modeller to tell you

 

[NightStalker]

Okay I tested two things now it works thanks to you guys.

First, I scaled it down by it center of mass which resulted in the buggy way.

I just scaled it down by pivot points it works properly!

Thank you both for quick replies! +rep

(It seems i have +rep ped you somewhere else Wietlol i can't +rep again )

 

[Ardenian]

Good to hear, rep to you for doing it yourself

 

[Wietlol]

My rep is faster than me

 

[NightStalker]

ahahah I guess it's true

 

[datsatthune]

Okay I tested two things now it works thanks to you guys.

First, I scaled it down by it center of mass which resulted in the buggy way.

I just scaled it down by pivot points it works properly!

How it can works properly? Scaled model will ruin the animations.
I am also facing the same situation, a custom model with very big attach effect. But have not found a solution.

 

[Dr Super Good]

So using the special effect natives to scale the effect down does not work?

Scaling models should not mess up animations if done correctly.

 

[datsatthune]

So using the special effect natives to scale the effect down does not work?

Scaling models should not mess up animations if done correctly.

A hero interacts with a lot of effects in the map so the most effective way is to scaled the model.
Using War3 Model Editor will mess up all animations.
Any way, I found solution to scaled model that doesn't mess up the animation: use Reteras Model Studio.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Using War3 Model Editor will mess up all animations.

That is because it is not the most compliant. Retera Model Studio is a lot more complaint and kept up to date which is why it has more success at such an operation.