How much filesize gets the life and mana orbs?

Xezko · Jun 22, 2009

well i was wonderin with this, and i see that the actual orbs are made in 3d so i just did these news that you can use and only gets 4.1 kb each one!!

there are maded in a 2d piece thats turns with the player camera, so you never will notice that are 2d (like the balls in the back of the troll witch doctor)
here is a pic:

Hope this helps to save more filesize.
See ya!

CloudMax · Jun 22, 2009

The maximum mapsize will end up with 8mb anyway so the filesize should not be a problem?

But when you think of it.. it doesnt look like a mana and health orb.

Xezko · Jun 22, 2009

LTGH said:
The maximum mapsize will end up with 8mb anyway so the filesize should not be a problem?
But when you think of it.. it doesnt look like a mana and health orb.

8 mbs!!?? i thought 4.1 mb...
And why doesnt look like a mana and healt orbs?
Some constructive critics...

CloudMax · Jun 22, 2009

Becouse it looks like a blue and red ball that has fire and blue fire on it.
It looks more like a projectile of a spell then healing orbs

Xezko · Jun 22, 2009

can you post an image of the orbs so i can hav something to compare and hav an idea of how this is supposed to look like?

X.e.r.e.X · Jun 22, 2009

When I played the game the orbs (or w/e they are) looked nice. No need to make new ones tbh.

Xezko · Jun 22, 2009

i make these for save some filesize, my ones ARENT better than the actual ones, but has LESS filesize. Thats simple.

X.e.r.e.X · Jun 22, 2009

How big are the original ones then? If it's only small difference, then just stick with the quality.

Xezko · Jun 22, 2009

thats the thing that i question in the thread!!
i need to know if the actual orbs are big filesize or not!
i thought that because the actual orbs are made in a total-3d shape, with various polys, and my orb has only a few polys because are a 2d-like a-3d.

redmarine · Jun 22, 2009

I like this one better but it's up to the team to decide.

Xezko · Jun 22, 2009

really? you like my one? na, you jokin, sure. :O
xD
Its all about Filesize, thought.
And, really you can have a map with 8 mbs filesize? thats cool.

dansaDisco · Jun 22, 2009

Xezko said:
really? you like my one? na, you jokin, sure. :O
xD
Its all about Filesize, thought.
And, really you can have a map with 8 mbs filesize? thats cool.

In the next patch you probably will be able to host maps that are 8mb big on bnet. Unless blizzard removes that. (It's enabled in the beta though)

Linaze · Jun 22, 2009

Damn, that'll result in anime maps with many imports.

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Xezko · Jun 22, 2009

so... anybody knows the filesize of the actual orbs?

dansaDisco · Jun 22, 2009

Linaze said:
Damn, that'll result in anime maps with many imports. [/OFFTOPIC]

And even more import spammed ORPG's that will now take 10 min to load instead of 5 for the people with bad pc's

Edit:

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I made a quick comparison between
Xezko's life orb - Blizzards Life Orb - The orb we use now

That is what I got. It actually seems no of the orbs look like the real one from diablo 3 (in the middle) But Xezko's orb is probably the best if we want one that looks more like the blizzard one
(unless he can edit it to match the middle screenshot because then it will really pwn

)

Xezko · Jun 22, 2009

well, i can edit it, changin the particles a bit and makin it more dark, but i cant change the texture cuz is an ingame one. I will see what i can do.
Anyway, is true!: my one looks more like the blizzard one and has less filesize!

EDIT: How this one looks?

dansaDisco · Jun 22, 2009

I think the particles should be more orange if possible, and the model.. well the darkness is perfect but it needs to be a bit more red-ish instead of brown

CloudMax · Jun 22, 2009

Acording to what Bashiok said, They remade the globe making it like this:
It is a transperant red ball and have a little red globe in the middle and it haves some glow around it.

But i can not rememer if he said that before or after the one you posted was shown.
So i dont know if thats the old or new one.. But thats how he said it was going to look like

dansaDisco · Jun 22, 2009

LTGH said:
Acording to what Bashiok said, They remade the globe making it like this:
It is a transperant red ball and have a little red globe in the middle and it haves some glow around it.

But i can not rememer if he said that before or after the one you posted was shown.
So i dont know if thats the old or new one.. But thats how he said it was going to look like

Well I think the SS I took it from was rather new, I might be wrong though.

Anyway I still like xezko's orb better than the OrcBloodX orb we have now

Xezko · Jun 23, 2009

yes, but atm we not have any image of how thats will looks, and we arent sure if thats exactly how will look, so, we can use this for now to save some filesize, but, when Blizzard reveals the new ones, or when Blizzard get us the new path (with that delicious 8 mb) i will can make a new orb more like the new one of Blizzard. But, for now, that is what we have.

I will fix the orb, coz its too browny atm xD

CloudMax · Jun 23, 2009

Just make a damn globe that actually looks like its going to heal you and not hurt you, haha.
its like
Guy one: "Look its a buring globe on the ground lets check it out!!!"
Guy two: "NO, DONT!!! IT MIGHT DAMAGE YOU ASSHOLE"
Guy one: "Duuh... The name on the items says it all..."
"Guy two: "How confusing... it doesnt look like its going to heal."

x)
Seriusly, if it wasnt for the item name i wouldent dare to pick it up.
Looks like a buring globe

Okey.. the new one is good i have to say, but it could have been better.. i guess..
Just take the new one, thats fine with me. x)

Xezko · Jun 23, 2009

Added moar red and a bit of orange.
I this is ok i will do the mana version.

CloudMax · Jun 23, 2009

Xezko said:
Added moar red and a bit of orange.
I this is ok i will do the mana version.

I like that one, now it looks a bit more of a healing globe i think.
But its not up to me what we will use, CloudWolf have the final vote

X.e.r.e.X · Jun 23, 2009

Mucho better than the one in first post

Too bad it crashes the map

You might want to fix that before CW will test it lol

redmarine · Jun 23, 2009

Xezko said:
Added moar red and a bit of orange.
I this is ok i will do the mana version.

You have a tendancy to make corrupted models capable of crashing the Editor. From now on please test your model in the editor before actually uploading the model on the Hive.

Anyway, I think it is beautiful but you should consider to remove the line which makes it seem like it is cut in half. If it is the particles then make them more transparent but increase their volume.

dansaDisco · Jun 23, 2009

redmarine said:
You have a tendancy to make corrupted models capable of crashing the Editor. From now on please test your model in the editor before actually uploading the model on the Hive.

Anyway, I think it is beautiful but you should consider to remove the line which makes it seem like it is cut in half. If it is the particles then make them more transparent but increase their volume.

It's the texture.
BloodElfBallz.blp Looks like that

redmarine · Jun 23, 2009

dansaDisco said:
It's the texture.
BloodElfBallz.blp Looks like that

I can live with that.

dansaDisco · Jun 23, 2009

redmarine said:
I can live with that.

Or I could try to make a good custom texture. Meh, I made a quick one before and it was like 6 kb, and it would be used for both this and the mana globe so that wouldn't be an issue

CloudMax · Jun 23, 2009

Are you telling me that bloodelfballs is red as well? god damn.. isnt that a little to much red?

And the seriuse talking:
Make a custom one based on the currently used skin but kind of copy pasta it so the entire globe looks like the bottom part, that would look awesome i think

redmarine · Jun 23, 2009

LTGH said:
Are you telling me that bloodelfballs is red as well? god damn.. isnt that a little to much red?

And the seriuse talking:
Make a custom one based on the currently used skin but kind of copy pasta it so the entire globe looks like the bottom part, that would look awesome i think

You're right. The bottom part does look more like the one in Diablo 3.

Xezko · Jun 24, 2009

well, i fixed it and now doesnt crashes the WE. I hav a weird virtue to make corrupted models xD
but, i hav now a problem to solve, coz now the model doesnt rotate with the camera and its looks 2d and reaaaally horrib.
So i will see if i can fix it.

EDIT: Gotcha! i solved the damn problem. Thanks goes to Callahan and l0w kwality that helped me.

Here its the model and the texture. Doesnt crashes the WE anymore.
There are a bit little ingame, but you can make it bigger via triggers i think.

the path for the texture is simply: "LifeBallTexture.blp"
So, do i the mana version ?

dansaDisco · Jun 25, 2009

Looks really neat in magos

Only minor problem is that the model isn't exactly in the middle, so if you rotate it, it looks like it's spinning.
Looks at this for reference:

redmarine · Jun 25, 2009

Image of the globe please? I'm lazy.

Xezko · Jun 25, 2009

i'm lazy to take a screenie. xD
DansaDisco: thats doesnt matter! the orb will stand here ingame and doesnt will move! xD
i can fix it, anyway.

dansaDisco · Jun 25, 2009

I checked it ingame, and the particles seems a bit small no?

Xezko · Jun 25, 2009

maybe, i tested it and i liked, but if you guys want some modification on it, i will do it.

So, anyone can tell to CW that come here, i leave him a VM 2 days ago and he doenst coming xD

dansaDisco · Jun 26, 2009

Xezko said:
maybe, i tested it and i liked, but if you guys want some modification on it, i will do it.
So, anyone can tell to CW that come here, i leave him a VM 2 days ago and he doenst coming xD

Read the announcements, he's away for the weekend

CloudMax · Jun 26, 2009

dansaDisco said:
Read the announcements, he's away for the weekend

Yah, he walked into a trap and wont be back until the next week.
Did you guys know that he actually have a so called "Real Life"? O.O
Heh, just kidding, i will be gonna for two days aswell, im going to work and make some money xD not sure if i will get access to internet those two days

Xezko · Jun 26, 2009

Oks, no problm!

So, any suggestion for the orbs?

Xezko · Jul 2, 2009

Srry for dble postin, but...
Cloud! can you come here?! x3

redmarine · Jul 2, 2009

Xezko said:
Srry for dble postin, but...
Cloud! can you come here?! x3

What do you mean?

CloudMax · Jul 2, 2009

If he doesnt come here, why dont you just ask him at a visitor comment insted of saying it here? :S Kinda wierd, and double post

You should contact him through visitor comment.

CloudWolf · Jul 2, 2009

ooooh looks awesome

If you have a final version ide be happy to add it to the map and reference you once v1.18 is released

Xezko · Jul 2, 2009

Ok! workin on it to gettin finish! x3
Also: anyone know if there is any Restoration Globe in the Real D3 so if are any i can use it for reference.

How much filesize gets the life and mana orbs?

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