how can i make a unit use mana to build

[andreasaspenberg]

i am working on inplementing the blood elves in warcraft 3. what i want is to make the units use mana to construct buildings.

 

[MasterTrainer]

I don't know how this is possible through the object editor but you can do it via triggers:

You can store the mana you want in a real variable and subtract that variable to the worker unit using an If-Then-Else to check what building the unit is currently building.

I think the condition to use it two: One is to check the current order of the unit and to check the unit-type of the building being built.

Then just subtract from the mana of the builder unit the value you stored in a variable.

It doesn't sound complicated at all does it?

 

[Binsu]

You will have to trigger it because buildings are units and not skills.

 

[MasterTrainer]

@Hell_Master

I don't know how this is possible through the object editor but you can do it via triggers:

=)

 

[Binsu]

@Hell_Master



=)

Same answer lol!

 

[andreasaspenberg]

i dont have a problem with using triggers but the way i want it to work is that i want the worker to spend 1 mana for each second working. please help me out.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Easy.

Make a periodic trigger that is turned on by another trigger when a worker decides to build a structure.

So make an initially off trigger with the event : Event - Every 1.00 seconds of Game Time

and the actions will be: Unit - Set Mana of (your_worker unit) to (Current Mana of (your_worker unit) - 1.00)

See? Now I think you know how to find the value of the variable of your_worker unit, so I won't bother explaining it anymore.

 

[deathismyfriend]

dont forget to make this completely MUI otherwise it will bug up at times and not subtract mana from the unit when wanted. u should use indexing for this. hashtables should be ok if u really want to use them tho.

 

[MasterTrainer]

dont forget to make this completely MUI otherwise it will bug up at times and not subtract mana from the unit when wanted. u should use indexing for this. hashtables should be ok if u really want to use them tho.

Of course! How could I have forgotten to mention that...

Anyways andreasaspenberg you should check out deathismyfriend's GUI tutorial... might help you too =)

 

[deathismyfriend]

thanks again masterTrainer.

here is a link to the tutorial he is tlking about it has an indexing chapter in it that should teach u indexing. http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/tutorial-submission-283/things-gui-user-should-know-233242/

 

[Lordkoon]

Erm...you can make them be summoned like undead buildings using mana by this way :
Use spellbook with no cooldown and inside put :
(for example) 8 spells that create a diffrent ward with summoned duration (the ward is our building being constructed timer, make it look like a construction in progress model). Each ward costs different mana as it is a different building.
Then use a simple trigger:
A unit dies
triggering unit equal to (ward type)
create unit - the actual building.
play sound - construction complete message for humans.

(Or even make it with no trigger - make each ward spawn a permanent unit uphon the ward's death - the unit being the building. base it off spawn hydra hatchlings)

So in total you need :
8 spells in a spellbook
8 wards for construction purposes - duration = construction time
8 buildings that spawn when each ward dies
8 triggers to spawn them (or no triggers if used spawn-spell)


That's a workaround that has its limitations but it is the easiest way.

 

[deathismyfriend]

Erm...you can make them be summoned like undead buildings using mana by this way :
Use spellbook with no cooldown and inside put :
(for example) 8 spells that create a diffrent ward with summoned duration (the ward is our building being constructed timer, make it look like a construction in progress model). Each ward costs different mana as it is a different building.
Then use a simple trigger:
A unit dies
triggering unit equal to (ward type)
create unit - the actual building.
play sound - construction complete message for humans.

(Or even make it with no trigger - make each ward spawn a permanent unit uphon the ward's death - the unit being the building. base it off spawn hydra hatchlings)

So in total you need :
8 spells in a spellbook
8 wards for construction purposes - duration = construction time
8 buildings that spawn when each ward dies
8 triggers to spawn them (or no triggers if used spawn-spell)


That's a workaround that has its limitations but it is the easiest way.

hmm thats a cool workaround i never knew u could do that.

 

[defskull]

Here's a test map.

Here's the list of fields that needs to be edited;
Data - Unit Created (per player race): Must be filled 4 times like what I did in the test map
Stats - Duration - Normal: Time taken for the building to be constructed
Stats - Mana Cost: Self-explanatory

All of these fields can be found in Object Editor -> Abilities Tab -> Build Cannon Tower

 

[pOke]

Aw, I should of refreshed, I made a test map too lol.. just incase you want another example...pretty much identical

+rep def, beat me to it xD

 

[andreasaspenberg]

that isnt what i am after. i want the buildings to be constructed with the human build system.

 

[pOke]

Assuming you mean you just want ALL the human buildings to cost mana to be built and you want the click "B" to open another menu and then blah blah--

This IS what you want, but you'll have to be a little innovative to make it seem as if it's the thing you actually want.
You'll need to make a spellbook with all the various buildings (What both me and defskull posted) inside of this spellbook and give this spellbook to the unit you'd like to build with.

I'll see if I can mend my test map to show you.

EDIT:
Hmm..Strange..even when basing off of different item abilities they all seem to build the first building in the spellbook... So I guess I'm incorrect, or not thinking properly atm. Hm I'll try to think about it more and come up with another solution.

 

[andreasaspenberg]

that is because they share the same base order ID. i made a trigger that you could take a look at. perhaps you can get it to work. /trigger blood elf
Events
Unit - A unit Begins construction
Conditions
Actions
If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
If - Conditions
(Unit-type of (Constructing structure)) Equal to Dragonhawk breader
Then - Actions
Unit - Set mana of (Triggering unit) to ((Mana of (Triggering unit)) - 200.00)
Else - Actions
Unit - Order (Triggering unit) to Stop

 

[deathismyfriend]

use trigger tags... http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/miscellaneous-tutorials-456/how-easily-post-triggers-163285/

• blood elf
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Begins construction
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Unit-type of (Constructing structure)) Equal to Dragonhawk breader
      • Then - Actions
        • Unit - Set mana of (Triggering unit) to ((Mana of (Triggering unit)) - 200.00)
      • Else - Actions
        • Unit - Order (Triggering unit) to Stop

heres a map of what u want it has a bug with the repair thing of the unit. dont have time to find a workaround atm.

 

[andreasaspenberg]

i tried to use a trigger tag but i guess i did something wrong. that system you posted seems to work perfectly so it should work for the regular worker.(good system though. seems that you forgot to remove the lumber cost of one building.) the arcane worker on the other hand uses a different build system. that unit will use the undead build system.(other races have units that build as undead as well so not giving it to the blood elves will give them a disadvantage.) one of 2 problems are solved. i just found a problem: i cant copy variables from one map to another so that prevents me from copying your system from your map to mine. please add your system to my map for me.

 

[deathismyfriend]

u do it like this.

[trigger]paste the stuff here[/trigger]

 

[andreasaspenberg]

your system is good but i cant copy the variables from one map to another. please help me out and install the system in my map for me. the map is in the post above yours.

 

[deathismyfriend]

do u have the automatically create unknown variables ticked ?
and the system has bugs in it.
im not home atm so i cant copy it for u but if u have that option ticked, then u right click on the trigger in the left panel and click copy. then u open ur map and paste it. do this for both triggers.

 

[andreasaspenberg]

i wasnt even aware of that option but it enabled me to add everything in. i didnt find any bugs in it.

 

[deathismyfriend]

the bug in that system is when u stop the unit from building. if u just right click on the building it doesnt register. but if u click the repair action then click the building it does register.
the other thing i didnt do is when a building is destroyed / removed in ur game u need to make a trigger so it unregisters that unit from the unit group.

 

[andreasaspenberg]

i did see one bug. when the unit moves away then resumes it only uses 1 mana and when it repairs a damaged building the same problem is present. how can i fix that.

 

[deathismyfriend]

im not sure i didnt have enough time to find a workaround. u could tryq making ur own repair ability. If u trigger it and order unit to repair it might work but im not sure. like i said its only when a unit moves away and right clicks the building. if the unit moves away and then clicks the ability repair. then clicks the building it works fine.

 

[andreasaspenberg]

then it might be a problem in the auto order system. a targeting order trigger might fix it but how can i create that properly.

 

[deathismyfriend]

u should be able to detect the unit that clicks on the building then order them to repair. that in theory should work lol

 

[andreasaspenberg]

that caused a crash.

 

[deathismyfriend]

show me what u did i cant help by guessing what u tried...

 

[andreasaspenberg]

• Untitled Trigger 006
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Is issued an order targeting an object
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Unit - Order (Ordered unit) to Human Peasant - Repair (Target unit of issued order)

 

[deathismyfriend]

try this

• Untitled Trigger 006
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Is issued an order targeting an object
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Trigger - Turn Off ( this trigger)
    • Unit - Order (Ordered unit) to Human Peasant - Repair (Target unit of issued order)
    • Trigger - Turn On ( this trigger)

also u should limit this somehow. otherwise when a hero targets an enemy it will issue this to him.

 

[andreasaspenberg]

i dont understand why but that actually worked. the limits will be added later. that trigger is just a test to see if it works and now that it works i will add conditions. i have added condition but despite all buildings being a part of those some of them doesnt drain mana. what could cause that.

 

[deathismyfriend]

it worked because an event is registered when the action makes it run. so it created an infinite loop and crashed the game. with mine it doesnt register the event because the trigger is turned off.

Did u add the units to the event like i did with the constructing structure ?

 

[andreasaspenberg]

of course i added them.

 

[deathismyfriend]

can u post the triggers so i can see.

The unit might need to be changed to the human classification to work. Also did u limit the units in the order trigger ?

 

[andreasaspenberg]

• Register Buildings
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Begins construction
  • Conditions
    • Or - Any (Conditions) are true
      • Conditions
        • (Unit-type of (Constructing structure)) Equal to Blood elf town hall
        • (Unit-type of (Constructing structure)) Equal to Altar of elven Kings (blood elf)
        • (Unit-type of (Constructing structure)) Equal to Lumber Mill (blood elf)
        • (Unit-type of (Constructing structure)) Equal to Blacksmith (Blood elf)
        • (Unit-type of (Constructing structure)) Equal to Arcane Sanctum (blood elf)
        • (Unit-type of (Constructing structure)) Equal to Blood Elf Farm
        • (Unit-type of (Constructing structure)) Equal to Dragonhawk breader
        • (Unit-type of (Constructing structure)) Equal to Blood Elf Barracks
  • Actions
    • Game - Display to (All players) the text: Registered.
    • Unit Group - Add (Constructing structure) to buildingGroup
    • Set buildingUnitCount = (buildingUnitCount + 1)
    • Trigger - Turn on Reduce Mana <gen>

• Untitled Trigger 006
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Is issued an order targeting an object
  • Conditions
    • Or - Any (Conditions) are true
      • Conditions
        • (Unit-type of (Targeted unit)) Equal to Blood elf town hall
        • (Unit-type of (Targeted unit)) Equal to Altar of elven Kings (blood elf)
        • (Unit-type of (Targeted unit)) Equal to Dragonhawk breader
        • (Unit-type of (Targeted unit)) Equal to Arcane Sanctum (blood elf)
        • (Unit-type of (Targeted unit)) Equal to Blacksmith (Blood elf)
        • (Unit-type of (Targeted unit)) Equal to Lumber Mill (blood elf)
        • (Unit-type of (Targeted unit)) Equal to Blood Elf Farm
        • (Unit-type of (Targeted unit)) Equal to Blood Elf Barracks
  • Actions
    • Trigger - Turn off (This trigger)
    • Unit - Order (Ordered unit) to Human Peasant - Repair (Target unit of issued order)
    • Trigger - Turn on (This trigger)

 

[deathismyfriend]

the only thing i can think of then is the unit might need to be changed to the human classification to work.

 

[andreasaspenberg]

race is already set to human.

 

[deathismyfriend]

for the buildings ?

 

[andreasaspenberg]

race is set to human for the buildings and the unit that constructs them. the system works for some but not for all.

 

[deathismyfriend]

Its either a mistake somewere or something the AI in wc3 isnt allowing.
You can try basing every building off of a human building then just change the model and other info u need to change.

 

[andreasaspenberg]

i based the blood elf lumber mill on the human lumber mill but the system doesnt work for that.

 

[deathismyfriend]

Thats really odd. Did u check to make sure all the fields were correctly done ?
Ill try to test this a liitle more when i can. Can u post the changed triggers in a map plz. This way ik what ur working with.

 

[andreasaspenberg]

the triggers is already posted. they havent been changed since i posted them in the earlier post. i can post a map with them though.

 

[deathismyfriend]

im taking a look at it now. u have a lot to improve in ur map btw. never use dying unit. always use triggering unit.
get rid of all the do nothings also.

You should take a look at my tutorial it will help u to make ur map more efficient. http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/tutorial-submission-283/things-gui-user-should-know-233242/

The problem was that u never fixed the mistake u made that i told u about earlier...........

Edit: heres the map back and i put in a thing to stop the units if they have 0 mana. So they wont build anymore. you may have to adjust the time tho. 0.50 might not be fast enough to counter if someone keeps clicking on repair a building. Heres the map back.

You should really work on optimizing the triggers u already have. if u need help with that just post the triggers on here and ill help u optimize them.

 

[andreasaspenberg]

i tested it and now the triggers you made doesnt work at all.(except the text) you should take a look at the map you posted to find out where you messed up.

 

[deathismyfriend]

hmm thats odd im not sure y the unit doesnt stop. u can try to move him to a location a little bit away from the building then tell him to stop. Im not reallly sure y it wont stop tho.

 

[andreasaspenberg]

i just want the bugs in the build system fixed so that i can finish the blood elves and perhaps add the gnolls if there is space for the models. please try to find out what is wrong. you are welcome to ask other users to help out though if you cant figure it out yourself.

 

[deathismyfriend]

i doubt ill have the time to try to fix it. U just need to find out how to stop the unit from repairing when the units mana is empty. U can ask other to help. Like i said the system isnt complete and im not sure y the unit isnt stopping when he is ordered to stop. You might have to make ur own repair ability to do this.