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Hive Vs The Underground

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Hello everybody, i have had one of my sparkling ideas, I am going to make A Hive Vs Underground map, it is Not going to be a Dota clone I am going to make it by myself and trigger it myself. Knowing my map making skills, this will take forever to make, but when it is made, its going to be great (atleast by my standards) and most of all I hope it will be fun.Anywho, I may as well explain what this map actually is, Its a Rpg meets Dota meets Hero Defense meets Tech wars doesnt that sound like a great game?


Sneak Previews....
The Hive:
Badly Made Model
First Time Model Maker (A Kind Of Weak Summoner)
Moderator (Healer and Tank)
Admin (Stronger Healer + Tank but costs alot, has some auras)
Owner (A way OP hero, uses lots of auras to empower nearby units)
The Underground:
Badly Made Model (Yes, i know, both sides have these)
Bad Model Maker (Same as First time, just some different abilities)
WoW Ripper (My Personal favourite unit, a stronger summoner)
WoW Map Maker (Has abilities that change the landscape....hehehe, im going to have fun with this)
Moderator (Same as Hive, but this one can teleport himself/herself around)
Admin (Same, also has a stronger teleport)
Owner (Same As Hive, Different Model and Abilities)


These arent all the units im going to have, only some...
I need names for moderator, admin and owner heroes aswell as if I decide to make evolveable units.
Ill make pictures and post testings of this here later when I have done triggering, terrain, units and some heroes.
 
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Spammed auras fail, yes, Catch_ya. And Wc3 Underground fails, ripping WoW/Other game models is so bad. If I was some guy that could close it, I would have done so much before.

And, why the hell Underground got better units than us :x ?
 
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Yeah. And no I'm not part of Wc3 Underground. Besides Netheri, maybe is, ask him :) Overpowering was never fun. If you make one small mistake and make some cliff that can't be reached, BAM! Underground won.
 
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:p Yeah, well. Was tired though. :pYou understand that I misunderstand? What a sentence -.-'
 
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maybe you guys go a bit offtopic, and nobody said underground units are better than hive models, and hey, if you dont like wow rips, dont use em, but dont go whinih=ng about other people using them, because they cann really make a map better
 
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maybe you guys go a bit offtopic, and nobody said underground units are better than hive models, and hey, if you dont like wow rips, dont use em, but dont go whinih=ng about other people using them, because they cann really make a map better

They can also break copyright laws. And no, wow models don't fit in warcraft 3 at all. Oh yea here we see a low poly footman and here we got a high poly wow model. Also you don't see the overpowering in teleport?
 
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They are, much more powerful than Hive units. They teleport whenever they want.And yes they can break copyright laws. Maybe you could say you use WoW rips in Warcraft, but not other games.
 
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The Hive:
Badly Made Model
First Time Model Maker (A Kind Of Weak Summoner)
Moderator (Healer and Tank)
Admin (Stronger Healer + Tank but costs alot, has some auras)
Owner (A way OP hero, uses lots of auras to empower nearby units) (One op guy and it's the Owner. Ralle.:p)
The Underground:
Badly Made Model (Yes, i know, both sides have these)
Bad Model Maker (Same as First time, just some different abilities)
WoW Ripper (My Personal favourite unit, a stronger summoner)
WoW Map Maker (Has abilities that change the landscape....hehehe, im going to have fun with this)
Moderator (Same as Hive, but this one can teleport himself/herself around)
Admin (Same, also has a stronger teleport)
Owner (Same As Hive, Different Model and Abilities)
(The Moderator has the teleport, although he is only rank 4 unit.) (the admin has a more powerful teleport.) (the Owner is same than hive.)
 
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I would really like to see some screenshots and some progress. Everyone can write this up very fast, maybe you should post it in the idea section?

@Dragonmawclan
If you support wow rips then go back to wc3underground and leave this site, thank you.
It is so childish to have overpowered heroes with spammed auras in a game.
 
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You people post so quickly, im in awe. Remember that isnt all the units im putting in their, thats kind of just a oreview of what i think ill put in their, and the skill to teleport around was kind of Op i guess, I havent even put in owners skills yet...
 
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Teleport IS OP. Owner's skills? Massive amount of Auras?
SAY NO TO THAT.

Btw, avoid typos in your map.
 
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1st of all... 20 posts in 12 hours? DAMN! Not too bad for a first thread and for some one who has 4 posts.

2nd of all the hives heroes seem to be overpowered by underground... that is an epic fail... If one side gets to be better it obviously must be hive.

3rd of all the only thing you posted was some stuff about heroes... tell us more, especially more about this game play with a mix of dota, an rpg, and 20 other games. I wanna see how thats going to work
 
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RPG + DotA ? How could that be..
RPG + Hero Defence ? How could that be..
RPG + Tech Wars ? How could that be..
DotA + Tech Wars ? That's one thing. Tech DotA.
Hero Defence + Tech Wars? That's one thing. Hero Line Wars?
DotA + Hero Defence? Eum.. Some map that is being made.

All of them at once?No. Not possible.

An RPG with an AoS is Ragos. This is no Ragos.An RPG with Tech Wars is no interesting map. Well w/e this is no RPG, or this will gonna be intentionally lame :
It has overpowered heroes.Balance them.
 
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O.M.G ... HOW MANY MORE FAILIN MAILIN BAILIN FAILIN(AGAIN) MAP WILL you create with the hive... there was 3-4 maps with hive... and they failed... and now.. one more ?! :( But what ever ;) Good luck with map best wishes that this one won't fail ;). sorry for english...


~Spoontoobig
 
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If Xarwin (as much as I respect him) fails with his Hive map (I hope not) it will make 6 total HiveWorkshop failed maps. Do something else.
 
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Yep these posts sure as hell show how "brilliant" the some members of hive is.
I'm pretty sure in the hero list for hive you missed out Pricks, Elitists and Snobs

And to another topic whoever said that wow models are high poly PLEASE PLEASE get with the times wow is a slight step up from Warcraft 3 so its not high poly its more moderate upgrade from Warcraft 3.

Also this map appears to be in early concept stage so stop shouting abuse and give nice helpful comments.

Note: People on Warcraft underground DO NOT wish to have credits for ripping wow models we simply give people the option to use them.

Indeed, Viva la Underground!
 
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Note: People on Warcraft underground DO NOT wish to have credits for ripping wow models we simply give people the option to use them.

Underground users all love their site.Sucks though.

Netheri said:
Indeed, Viva la underground!

Viva la copyright laws.Viva THW.
(PS VIVA REAL MADRID, NOT UNDERGROUND.)
 
Yep these posts sure as hell show how "brilliant" the some members of hive is.
I'm pretty sure in the hero list for hive you missed out Pricks, Elitists and Snobs

And to another topic whoever said that wow models are high poly PLEASE PLEASE get with the times wow is a slight step up from Warcraft 3 so its not high poly its more moderate upgrade from Warcraft 3.

Also this map appears to be in early concept stage so stop shouting abuse and give nice helpful comments.

Note: People on Warcraft underground DO NOT wish to have credits for ripping wow models we simply give people the option to use them.

you sir..is definitely wrong.
Srsly, it is Illegal.. Illegal!
And I'm sure you don't know that high poly models also contribute to the game lag.
Also I heard that your site is making a Warcraft 4 project eh? And your project will use WoW models eh? Think of about the poor filesize and the lag.
 
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Yep these posts sure as hell show how "brilliant" the some members of hive is.
I'm pretty sure in the hero list for hive you missed out Pricks, Elitists and Snobs

And to another topic whoever said that wow models are high poly PLEASE PLEASE get with the times wow is a slight step up from Warcraft 3 so its not high poly its more moderate upgrade from Warcraft 3.

Also this map appears to be in early concept stage so stop shouting abuse and give nice helpful comments.

Note: People on Warcraft underground DO NOT wish to have credits for ripping wow models we simply give people the option to use them.

Elitist and Elitism is NOT a bad thing. Even if they are of Low-Poly, most of them are ugly, except natural doodads and weapons. Ever seen how dis-proportional is a WoW Human Male? Even Kel'Thuzad is beefed up like hell.

Viva la copyright laws.



ofc they don't want credits, they didn't make them. They just uploaded the illegaly to the internet.

Quoted For Truth.

you sir..is definitely wrong.
Srsly, it is Illegal.. Illegal!
And I'm sure you don't know that high poly models also contribute to the game lag.
Also I heard that your site is making a Warcraft 4 project eh? And your project will use WoW models eh? Think of about the poor filesize and the lag.

Quoted for Truth too.


Finally, remember these things:
-Most WoW Models look ugly when used in an RTS
-They are damn big
-Ripping Models and upload them is considered as Stealing
-Stealing Models from WoW is Gay

On-Topic:
Making Hive VS WC3Underground is kinda risky. Making a Hive VS WC3C Map is much better. Anyways, wish you best of luck if you don't use WoW rips (except icon).

~A Frustated dead-man-walking
 
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anyhow, everyone who makes wc3 models are in illegal business, since you are not allowed to use any other program with the game, which you do if you create models for it(milkshape, magos) so you saying that wow rips are illegal is bad, since your as ´illegal´ as the wow exporters, and dead/man/walking, saying wow exports are gay really shows how intellectual you are, which, if i could rate it, would be 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
 
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@DragonmawClan, for saying that, I know that you have ZERO IQ. It means less than one.
 
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anyhow, everyone who makes wc3 models are in illegal business, since you are not allowed to use any other program with the game, which you do if you create models for it(milkshape, magos) so you saying that wow rips are illegal is bad, since your as ´illegal´ as the wow exporters, and dead/man/walking, saying wow exports are gay really shows how intellectual you are, which, if i could rate it, would be 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001

So the import module in Warcraft 3 editor is just for nothing or what? What is the next? Is it that we can't import icons anymore because it is illegal? Seriously you should read WoW and Wc3 Terms and Conditions if you understand that. You seriously don't know what you're talking about, your on deep water. Also you serve us better with just being silence.
 
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anyhow, everyone who makes wc3 models are in illegal business, since you are not allowed to use any other program with the game, which you do if you create models for it(milkshape, magos) so you saying that wow rips are illegal is bad, since your as ´illegal´ as the wow exporters, and dead/man/walking, saying wow exports are gay really shows how intellectual you are, which, if i could rate it, would be 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001

You, sir, is the most *insert curses here* that I've met this week. Congratulations.
 
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The way I see it, if you want to use WoW rips, then use them, I use them since my computer was built in the last decade, it doesnt lag that much. On to the fact that the are illegal, honestly do you realy think people care? Im sure blizzard knows that their are WoW rips around, and how does it harm them that much? They dont lose money....but thats just my opinion, and on the first page, yes I am on the Underground, as I myself adore WoW rips.
 
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The way I see it, if you want to use WoW rips, then use them, I use them since my computer was built in the last decade, it doesnt lag that much. On to the fact that the are illegal, honestly do you realy think people care? Im sure blizzard knows that their are WoW rips around, and how does it harm them that much? They dont lose money....but thats just my opinion, and on the first page, yes I am on the Underground, as I myself adore WoW rips.

You can of course have your opinion as if you like WoW models or not. You can quit this project on the hiveworkshop if you are going to use WoW rips. We don't want WoW rips here, but if you ain't going to use WoW rips then your welcome. I just don't like how your dragonmawclaw reacts, it is really childish.
 
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By your words, YOUR words, I understand that since Wc Underground only got rips, it should be closed.

P.S If blizzard didn't care about Warcraft (its best game) it wouldn't have made the C, Cb,Cd,Ce patches.
 
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And also as you all fail to see blizzard does not give two shits about warcraft 3 its an old game and if people are using models from one of their other games there hardly gonna take you to court are they?

As you may know Blizzard only makes all these games for money. If they didn't care about Warcraft 3 then please tell me, why should they update it with new patches? Well simple answer, because there is money in it.

Epic fail, i have read the blizzerd terms of use and maybe you should to because i'm am all most certain that contained with in it states that programs used to extract any model or data from the game are intact illeagle so any edit models on this site from the original game infringe on copyright laws making them against the law.

Do you even know why you can't use WoW models? Because they are not created by Blizzard, or atleast Blizzard hired someone to make them and it was only meant to be used for World of Warcraft and nothing else. But Warcraft 3 models is made by Blizzard, and why shouldn't you be allowed to edit a model that is meant for the game that the original model is created for?

you can all stop being 12 year olds and grow up,

Saying "Epic fail/fail" all the time doesn't make you any older than us.
 
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Hello everybody, i have had one of my sparkling ideas, I am going to make A Hive Vs Underground map, it is Not going to be a Dota clone I am going to make it by myself and trigger it myself. Knowing my map making skills, this will take forever to make, but when it is made, its going to be great (atleast by my standards) and most of all I hope it will be fun.Anywho, I may as well explain what this map actually is, Its a Rpg meets Dota meets Hero Defense meets Tech wars doesnt that sound like a great game?

This doesn't sound too.. ugh... convincing.

Sneak Previews....
The Hive:
Badly Made Model
First Time Model Maker (A Kind Of Weak Summoner)
Moderator (Healer and Tank)
Admin (Stronger Healer + Tank but costs alot, has some auras)
Owner (A way OP hero, uses lots of auras to empower nearby units)
The Underground:
Badly Made Model (Yes, i know, both sides have these)
Bad Model Maker (Same as First time, just some different abilities)
WoW Ripper (My Personal favourite unit, a stronger summoner)
WoW Map Maker (Has abilities that change the landscape....hehehe, im going to have fun with this)
Moderator (Same as Hive, but this one can teleport himself/herself around)
Admin (Same, also has a stronger teleport)
Owner (Same As Hive, Different Model and Abilities)


These arent all the units im going to have, only some...
I need names for moderator, admin and owner heroes aswell as if I decide to make evolveable units.
Ill make pictures and post testings of this here later when I have done triggering, terrain, units and some heroes.

ugh*.. that's rather helpful... detail.....way too lacking and sound overpowered.

The Underground only say that hive make noob models and they think they are so good, but atleast hive doesn't steal models from World of Warcraft. Also I hate spammed auras.

Correction.. those who make noob model are often those who newly register.. dump their model and never return...

You people post so quickly, im in awe. Remember that isnt all the units im putting in their, thats kind of just a oreview of what i think ill put in their, and the skill to teleport around was kind of Op i guess, I havent even put in owners skills yet...

in that case, your suggestion was very poor.. no offense intend..

O.M.G ... HOW MANY MORE FAILIN MAILIN BAILIN FAILIN(AGAIN) MAP WILL you create with the hive... there was 3-4 maps with hive... and they failed... and now.. one more ?! :( But what ever ;) Good luck with map best wishes that this one won't fail ;). sorry for english...


~Spoontoobig

nvr seen a success map of it.. often all failed...

If Xarwin (as much as I respect him) fails with his Hive map (I hope not) it will make 6 total HiveWorkshop failed maps. Do something else.

I doubt he could failed though.. i have seen how dedicated he is with his other work.. the only matter is timeline.

Also this map appears to be in early concept stage so stop shouting abuse and give nice helpful comments.

How do you expect a useful comment when the detail was very lacking?

anyhow, everyone who makes wc3 models are in illegal business, since you are not allowed to use any other program with the game, which you do if you create models for it(milkshape, magos) so you saying that wow rips are illegal is bad, since your as ´illegal´ as the wow exporters, and dead/man/walking, saying wow exports are gay really shows how intellectual you are, which, if i could rate it, would be 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001

by making such a post, what's differ you with the others?

The way I see it, if you want to use WoW rips, then use them, I use them since my computer was built in the last decade, it doesnt lag that much. On to the fact that the are illegal, honestly do you realy think people care? Im sure blizzard knows that their are WoW rips around, and how does it harm them that much? They dont lose money....but thats just my opinion, and on the first page, yes I am on the Underground, as I myself adore WoW rips.

The problem is, blizzard are not the creator of the model.

And also as you all fail to see blizzard does not give two shits about warcraft 3 its an old game and if people are using models from one of their other games there hardly gonna take you to court are they?

They would never update it if they don't care about it.

Do you even know why you can't use WoW models? Because they are not created by Blizzard, or atleast Blizzard hired someone to make them and it was only meant to be used for World of Warcraft and nothing else. But Warcraft 3 models is made by Blizzard, and why shouldn't you be allowed to edit a model that is meant for the game that the original model is created for?

you have spoke what i have to say...

I suggest both side to cool off. If this continue, I am not suprise if the thread would be locked pretty soon due to the hot... ugh!! fire!!

However, here is my opinion.

1) Your information was lacking and doesn't sound too good. Infact, it was barely at concept level and much of the idea was rather inbalance; which I doubt you could get someone at here to help you.

To top up with, Xarwin was currently developing hive genre map and his work are currently under development while yours are still at concept stage, people at here would likely to focus on his map rather much than yours since he already have quite a good reputation in map developments while you're still a newcomer.

Along with the inbalance idea, terrible and unorganize thread; they would likely read this thread of yours and wave good byes.

2) You're planning to use WOW, some wc3 site does not permit it such as hiveworkshop and wc3c.net. They have their own term and condition that you must abide.

Like they say, respect the other when you're in their territory. User at here would not help you if they know you're using wow model as they know the map would likely would not be accepted at here.

3) You could have edit wc3 model to look close or even better than wow model, which naturally means you do not use wow model and does not violate the term and condition of the site. So, why not edit it or make it out of scratch instead of ripping it?
 
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