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Vengeancekael
Date: 2012/Dec/04 21:56:04

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Comment:

Blue has one green minion less. (the closest green camp)
Symmetric, neat terrain, but it doesn't really feel or look fresh.​

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[ExecutorWar]

cmon go lets try this! Another masterpiece of jay

 

[eubz]

Another melee map! 5/5
BTW can you give me the code for this description. I like it, and also the logo of the melee nation, I like it, too.

 

[sonofjay]

Thanks for the ratings.

Yeah sure i'll vm it to you, though I actually plan to post it on the group to be at least our standard description template.

 

[Ken-E]

Will be testing this soon along with z.ky's map
Good work sonofjay!

 

[Arrr]

Good to see another melee map from you

I tested it, the gameplay is quite good, and I got some suggestions:
-fix some cliffs, like the ones near the shop (look at them, I cant explain in english >.<)
-check the creeps, like the ones near the base, one of them has less creeps
-change some creeps' engage range to "camp", like tho ones near the base or
any on the path (it is really annoyng when you move your units around the map
and they get attacked by creeps)

remember also to calculate shadow and save

Good Work overall!

 

[sonofjay]

Will be testing this soon along with z.ky's map

Hope you'll have fun

I tested it, the gameplay is quite good, and I got some suggestions:
-fix some cliffs, like the ones near the shop (look at them, I cant explain in english >.<)
-check the creeps, like the ones near the base, one of them has less creeps
-change some creeps' engage range to "camp", like tho ones near the base or
any on the path (it is really annoyng when you move your units around the map
and they get attacked by creeps)

remember also to calculate shadow and save

1st and 2nd - Okay i'll check those things asap
3rd - damn, forgot about that, thanks for reminding me

 

[G A T E]

5/5 sonofjay!
You are the great melee map expert ever!

 

[doomhammer99]

Nice Terraining SonofJay
I love it

 

[sonofjay]

Updated to fix what z.ky pointed out improved the lower part of the terrain adding buildings, etc etc and some animals.

 

[eubz]

by the way,add reputation to me...i need it..

^ and I do love this.^

 

[rcshaggy]

Great melee map and I'm going to test it out and see if it makes to Warcraft III standards.

 

[sonofjay]

Blue has one green minion less.

D: I thought I updated it yesterday, anyway map updated.

Thanks for the approval.

 

[iChaos]

awesum
I love the terrain

 

[Ginufe]

Nice map
good melee map 5/5

 

[Ken-E]

Full Review Emerges

Played the map and I think this is pretty great! Everything is really fun to play and I gotta say, it's really more of a comeback map.

Symmetric and I love the waterfalls! Well, I love everything on the middle, upper and lower.

Some notes though:
*Set the map on Melee (Latest Patch), this way players would gain Tinkers and Alchemist heroes, and some tech advancement such as the Batriders on Stronghold and Gargoyles on Halls of the Dead.
*While the middle feels detailed, there's still that feeling of emptiness overall around the map, alot of empty spaces that could've been use for doodads and moar trees! D:

Other than that, it's really a fun melee map.
3.5/5, better than your previous work

 

[Vinz]

this is just great, a role model for melee mapmakers ) 5/5 + rep

 

[sonofjay]

Map updated due to Ken-E's request that I should add more stuffs in the map.

 

[PKCrafty]

A Review from Crafty

My Review

Found no bugs. Very nice!

Suggestions:

For the gold mine creeps you have two items drop, one from the warlord and one from the priest. I would recommend just one item from the warlord and a level one tome from the priest, this way it's more balanced. (To me it is, just my opinion!)

Maybe Add tougher creeps around the goblin merchant, I can creep it with just a hero and one unit. (Which gives me a benefit in early game when I need to go there during the day, but then again it's same for your opponent)
And I'd like to see the goblin merchant more inclosed, I mean you can even access it up on the hill! Maybe add trees around it making a C shape where you can only access it from the direction of your base.

I noticed you have the health fountian creepless.
This just makes it too easy to abuse the map! By abusing I mean one player can put alot of pressure on his opponent while he can tech up or expand early game. So I'd like to see some creeps around that fountian to balance the map out. Maybe add 2 level 6 rock golems and 3 mud golems. And have a decent item drop and a level 1 tome. Or a level 2 tome and a average item. (Example: cloak of shadows, claws of attack +3)

Possibly add another gold mine somewhere center of the map with 15k with powerful creeps defending it. This makes the map have a economy advantage later in the game when getting up another expansion. Or even risk expanding there first and secure it with a few towers, but doing this would cost the player to camp at the expansion in order to secure it. Giving the other player an advantage to creep a higher level and claim those nice items!

Other then my suggestions, (sometimes silly.) great melee map!

The terrain is very good!
The map has a lively hood to it!
Great creep placement!

I rate it [color=green2]4/5[/color] for now. (When I can, I'm new to THW) and [color=green2]+rep![/color]

 

[sonofjay]

For the gold mine creeps you have two items drop, one from the warlord and one from the priest. I would recommend just one item from the warlord and a level one tome from the priest, this way it's more balanced. (To me it is, just my opinion!)

Will probably consider it.

Maybe Add tougher creeps around the goblin merchant, I can creep it with just a hero and one unit. (Which gives me a benefit in early game when I need to go there during the day, but then again it's same for your opponent)
And I'd like to see the goblin merchant more inclosed, I mean you can even access it up on the hill! Maybe add trees around it making a C shape where you can only access it from the direction of your base.

There is actually a purpose why you can tank creeps easily by a hero, it is like that to fit the type of my game.

I noticed you have the health fountian creepless.
This just makes it too easy to abuse the map! By abusing I mean one player can put alot of pressure on his opponent while he can tech up or expand early game. So I'd like to see some creeps around that fountian to balance the map out. Maybe add 2 level 6 rock golems and 3 mud golems. And have a decent item drop and a level 1 tome. Or a level 2 tome and a average item. (Example: cloak of shadows, claws of attack +3)I noticed you have the health fountian creepless.
This just makes it too easy to abuse the map! By abusing I mean one player can put alot of pressure on his opponent while he can tech up or expand early game. So I'd like to see some creeps around that fountian to balance the map out. Maybe add 2 level 6 rock golems and 3 mud golems. And have a decent item drop and a level 1 tome. Or a level 2 tome and a average item. (Example: cloak of shadows, claws of attack +3)

I can see that you're a casual melee player to actually find this and see its main purpose, I leave it like that since professional players will surely make a use of it and harass its opponent badly. But if two pro players is actually clashing, one can easily find a way to counter this, just look on the terrain layout and you'll notice that camping there is a bad idea.

Possibly add another gold mine somewhere center of the map with 15k with powerful creeps defending it. This makes the map have a economy advantage later in the game when getting up another expansion. Or even risk expanding there first and secure it with a few towers, but doing this would cost the player to camp at the expansion in order to secure it. Giving the other player an advantage to creep a higher level and claim those nice items!

I actually love too, but that will mean that I need to reterrain some parts to be able to put one that have a strategical purposes.

P.S.

I seriously love to have a match or two with you when we got some time.

 

[PKCrafty]

There is actually a purpose why you can tank creeps easily by a hero, it is like that to fit the type of my game.

Oh thats fine, I have my purposes too when creeping !

I can see that you're a casual melee player to actually find this and see its main purpose, I leave it like that since professional players will surely make a use of it and harass its opponent badly. But if two pro players is actually clashing, one can easily find a way to counter this, just look on the terrain layout and you'll notice that camping there is a bad idea.

Yes I've played with the god of orc's Grubby (my opinion ) and watched his replays many times. And yes I see what you mean by the terrain layout, I didn't notice it til you said something. Very creative! But like you said, it wouldn't be a very good idea to camp there vs a decent/or nowaday pros.

I actually love too, but that will mean that I need to reterrain some parts to be able to put one that have a strategical purposes.

Yes this is very true, but I hope you give it some thought and do it! If you do, I'll be playing this map quite often with my friends!

P.S.

I seriously love to have a match or two with you when we got some time.

Sure! I should be able to play within a week or less, right now I'm currently out of town visting family; and they have satelite internet. (Very slow and limited internet, if I attempted to play a LAN game I have serious delay, sadly.) But I'd love to play you, but I must warn you, I'm rusty so you'll have to cut me some slack, my apm probably has dropped to 120's. I havn't played in like 6 months.

 

[deepstrasz]

It's good in what it looks like.