High-Res Battlecruiser

[D4RK_G4ND4LF]

It's still TBD. Not before christmas eve, i can tell.

I'm so excited

no need to rush it though
good work as yours takes time

 

[Angelusz]

Although it definitely looks very awesome, I had hoped it'd resemble the starcraft I model more. This one seems almost too complicated.

Nevertheless, it's a really nice model, keep up the great work!

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

Yeah take your time, as much as needed even after the new year. That's a very accurate copy of the SC2 BC. no need to resemble SC1, no thanks.

 

[Angelusz]

no need to resemble SC1, no thanks.

In your opinion. No problem though, if he makes a low-fi version as well, there's a pretty good chacne it looks like the SC1 version.

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

Well, this is SC2 version, its whole design is diff from SC1 one forget that it has the same basic shape, so it must be a SC2 cruiser. But here is a guy who's making a SC1 BC since ur so interested: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/modeling-animation-276/starcraft-battlecruiser-152735/

 

[Angelusz]

Well, this is SC2 version, its whole design is diff from SC1 one forget that it has the same basic shape, so it must be a SC2 cruiser. But here is a guy who's making a SC1 BC since ur so interested: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/modeling-animation-276/starcraft-battlecruiser-152735/

Ah, I hadn't seen that one yet. Looks like he doesn't have the tools to make it happen though. I'll keep track of both threads though, lets see what happens.

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

How's the WIP going, is it textured? Take your time, quality over time.

 

[CloudWolf]

Looks awesome! If you need a texture made for it give me a buzz

 

[Fingolfin]

Actually cloudwolf, now that you say it, i could just finish the UV template and send it to you! It would save me lots of time.
Although i would have some demands for it, i know you are an excellent skinner, but it would have to be very accurate with coulor palette taken from the reference image (and saturated in afterhand).
But if you want i can just send you what i have.

 

[CloudWolf]

Actually cloudwolf, now that you say it, i could just finish the UV template and send it to you! It would save me lots of time.
Although i would have some demands for it, i know you are an excellent skinner, but it would have to be very accurate with coulor palette taken from the reference image (and saturated in afterhand).
But if you want i can just send you what i have.

Sounds awesome to me! If you can send me the UV template I'll see what I can do! I'll pay close attention to the SC2 battlecruiser and attempt to make something similar

As its hi-res, I could work at 512x512px so we can get some more definition

 

[Fingolfin]

Sounds great. I cant guarantee i'll be home until next week though, so it might have to wait a little while, but i'll send you the UV as soon as i get access to my computer again.

 

[Warhunter]

Great! This cruiser is going to be one of the most awesome models on the site!

 

[Fingolfin]

I agree.
A joint project between me, (uhrm) recent skin moderator Couudwolf (fuck yeah!) and master of super SFX Willthealmighty (fuck yeah)!

One little thing though, as for the moment, the model is pretty flat on it's underside.
It will have some detail on the lower back, but otherwise, the hammerhead part for example, will not have any special detail beneath it.
Is this something you want me to fix (it will not be visible from an RTS-perspective) or should i skip it and save the polygons?

 

[Warhunter]

I think you should add some moore details on the underside. In some cinematics you'll see things from below etc. But it's all your choose. I'll be happy whatever you do. ^^

 

[lightmax]

Hi,

Fingolfin, do you do your awesome work in 3DSMax?

 

[Warhunter]

lgihtmax, take that in a PM and not in the thread, this thread is about a request...

 

[Fingolfin]

Lightmax: Yes, and thank you.
I use 3ds max 5 with art tools.

By the way, i will send cloudwolf the UV on saturday.
We'll see depending on his work pace if we might just have a textured version next week

 

[WhiteTrashBoy]

WOAH! Fingolfin,u ROCK MAN! u have no less talent than the blizzard modellers!!

 

[lightmax]

Where do you got it from? You bought it?
Expensive, but seems to be valuable!

 

[WhiteTrashBoy]

Where do you got it from? You bought it?
Expensive, but seems to be valuable!

It's a commercial professional 3d art program. it's some thing around 500 bucks? dunno, ask our artist

 

[lightmax]

More likelly to be 3500 euros.

 

[Warhunter]

More likelly to be 3500 euros.

Please take that in a PM. This thread is for the cruiser. -.-

 

[Fingolfin]

i agree with warhunter on this one. Stick to the topic.

 

[WhiteTrashBoy]

ok sorrry

 

[lightmax]

Talking about the topic, how does it look like now?

 

[Fingolfin]

Mesh-wise it is still pretty much the same. I am still working on the UV so that i can get it textured. It still looks cool though.

 

[lightmax]

Hmmm, it shows a page 6 but can't access to it? Am I the only one?

 

[Dr. House]

I got the same problem

 

[Fingolfin]

It is a common forum bug, don't mind it.
There is no next page.

EDIT: Oops, now there is

 

[lightmax]

What's new?

 

[Fingolfin]

Nothing, i'm sorry. I've gotten sick recently, and well.. i have no excuses you haven't heard before, i've got even less time ti do this, and i get tired even thinking about how much i have to do, and.. well. It will be done though, i promise.

I have some less model related news though; i was watching the terran tech tree that was just released, and i noticed the battlecruiser now has only yamato gun!
That means no missile barrage or defensive matrix on the SC2 version.
I think i will still make those on mine, though.

 

[lightmax]

Once again, what's new in the project?
With the Bêta of Starcraft II being cracked and some lucky guys being able to play it without Bêta Key, I'm really looking forward to your model ^^!

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

Hi fingofin, it's really nice to see you working on that again (was about to give up waiting), I myself deleted the old BC from my map expecting to have yours. For the sake of the model, I could make some in-game screenshots of the model (from replays, I'm not a Beta tester :/ ) though maybe you've seen enough and don't need.

The replays have F12 info with unit and its description if you want me to TRY (cause I dont promise it will be of any use) I could provide some info and stuff from SC2 beta and its abilities could be seen by selecting a battlecruiser

 

[Fingolfin]

Yes, i myself recently discovered a valuable new detail regarding the shape of the front, solving the problem with the underdetailed belly.
If you find any details that you think seem useful for me to know, feel free to post those in this thread.

Now although, i have a very valid excuse for not being able to work on this - the heater has broken down inside my house, and since the temperature outside varies between -20 and -30, the climate indoors is not very fit for work.
Hopefully it will be fixed soon, but till then i live in town, where sadly, i don't have the programs i need for this (i.e. PS3, 3ds max, or even TFT.)

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

Now I have access to playing me vs me, thus can control units. I've made models from games from scratch and my materials for making it 90-100% accurate are: screenshots from all sides, videos for death/spell animations and even sounds.

So I know what may be helpful, I'll PM you when I have them. I'll even look for the DDS texture, I know it's not for TheHive but if you have a custom made texture exactly like the original one, I could use the original just for me. Let me learn the units cause I found that out last night Take your time but yeah I hope you are able to do in few weeks

 

[Fingolfin]

Hmm.. i won't use the .dds, partially because the normal map is not baked into it, thus it won't have any shading and also because it's illegal, but what i'm in most dire need for is a nice recording of the yamato gun firing sequence, and the weapons refit anim. Possibly the death anim.
Sounds are also very welcome.

 

[lightmax]

By the way, I'd like to know, how much polygons does it have right now?

 

[Fingolfin]

1300 polygons.
It won't be much more.

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

Ok I will send these things later today, see what you will find useful. There is Defenive Matrix, exists in the game but the BC has only Yamato at the moment.

 

[lightmax]

Yes, and the graphics are awesome.

BTW, we can now play versus AI.
These hackers... ruin game. But they're really powerfull.

 

[lightmax]

How is it going for you? Have you been able to work a little on your awesome model?

 

[CloudWolf]

Just to let you know, I'm still totally up for making the texture for this as soon as your ready

 

[Fingolfin]

Good.
I have updated the mesh slightly after some pictures sent by TheTerran, though i've been helping another guy with a project of his that got me stalled a bit. I will send you the model and UV as soon as it's ready.

 

[lightmax]

What's new this week?

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

Fingofin, you didnt answer my PM. As I said, both your Battlecruiser and the SC2 M3 one that I just made ready - with some animations, team color and particles, can benefit from the same thing - missile effects.

Do you have someone to create the plasma cannon missiles or I'll request it here? We won't need a Defensive Matrix as it is N/A for that unit. And I think we wont need a yamato since ti is pretty much a fireball (I use Firelord missile), although WillAllMighty could make both very well, I cant make particles that fiery and good as he does.

 

[Fingolfin]

I'd propably prefer to script that effect; though if you wish, i guess i might make a whole model of it since that's a bit simplier.

Sorry for the PM, i read it but then i forgot to answer.

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

Np. Script, as in model? Custom models attack from the weapon am I right? So wherever your 'Weapon' attachment point is, missile and stuff appear from there? I just finished the BC from beta, team colored, particles and not good animations, very basic.

I dont know how the ability should look though, the BC attacks with several weapons at a time, then stops. Also, there is a new look of the missiles. The pics from 2007 showed the BC with some lasers going thru the enemy, then the missiles I showed you, now they look more fiery and thinner. I will show a pic again, wait.

Also for Yamato, I dont know of a channel, then missile throw spell. I would usually use a normal Firebolt or similar with 5 second delay time to cast but it's not the same.

 

[Newominus]

You could always just use cluster rockets or something as the attack. Because it fires several projectiles... Then it has to wait for cooldown.

 

[lightmax]

Well, how are things going?

 

[Fingolfin]

I'm sorry guys, but i'm pausing this for a while. I just haven't got the will right now, seing how it was possible to just export models from sc2 beta kinda broke my mood.
Although, i think i'm going to send the separate UV-maps to coudwolf later on so that he may skin them one and one, that way, maybe he's results would encourage me into completing this.
Otherwise, i will post the 3ds max file and the mdx incase someone else wants to play with it, but i'm hoping to still complete it myself, it just might take a while.