Heroes not earning XP

[mecatronic]

If an enemy hero dies, i should get XP right? As far as I know, it doesn't matter how the hero died, or even if it has been killed by someone or just died (let's say he used a healing ward with a negative value).

the problem is that sometimes when an enemy hero dies on my map, I'm not earning any xp. It happens when I mana burn other heroes and some other effects that I haven't verified yet.

any help?

thanks

 

[M4stah]

1. If you are using custom abilities with a dummy caster, make sure you dib't make a mistake with the owner.
2.Is the enemy hero a creep or mercenary hero? maybe you should modify XP reductiont able in gameplay contants

Thats all my guesses. Please give some more specific information, like which heroes

 

[SlickR]

yeah i had the same problem, didn't find out what was the cause though, i had to resort to using triggers to give xp.

If some1 more knowledgeable does not share light on this i think you might need to resort to triggers as well.
something along the lines of:
a unit dies
all conditions are true
unit is a hero - true
unit in range 900 of dying hero
give custom value of dying unit to enemy of player x

just an example, the trigger needs refining though.

 

[Meticulous]

Only heroes owned by the unit that killed an enemy unit will gain experience. Suicides give no experience. Heroes also have to be within a certain range to receive experience (1200) unless that's been disabled or altered in your map.

Also, neutral hostile enemies will yield no experience for heroes over level 5 unless that's been changed in your map too.

 

[mecatronic]

well, I'm using a mana burn used by a unit that's 10000 away from the target, but the caster isn't a dummy of any kind. It stays in the game until the end.

anyway, my field "Hero Maximum XP Gain Range" at gameplay constants is set to 50000.

Suicides give no experience.

but what if the unit was killed by a common enemy?

 

[SlickR]

well, I'm using a mana burn used by a unit that's 10000 away from the target, but the caster isn't a dummy of any kind. It stays in the game until the end.

anyway, my field "Hero Maximum XP Gain Range" at gameplay constants is set to 50000.


but what if the unit was killed by a common enemy?

Well there is your problem, unless that 10.000 is a typo.

 

[mecatronic]

why is that a problem if I set the max range to 50000?

 

[Just_Spectating]

what level is the hero you are killing? and is it owned by Neutral hostile?

if so,
Try to change
Gameplay Constants --> Hero XP Gained --> Creep Reduction Table: 100

 

[mecatronic]

no, both heroes (caster and target) are controlled by human players. And when they die by other means, they give the proper xp.

And I tested this in many levels, from 1 to 100.

 

[Just_Spectating]

so, they only dont give xp when you kill them with mana burn?

is there some trigger interfering with your XP gain?

 

[mecatronic]

nope. and the mana burn is not trigger based.

 

[Just_Spectating]

so the 50000 range XP gain is working right?


Hmm. very strange

 

[mecatronic]

yep.

I could understand that if it were some kind of suicide. But it's a mana burn, a hero killer!

and btw, I placed an invulnerable demon hunter just to test that, and he gained the xp from his kill.

EDIT: I also added an allied hero next to the killed hero, and he didn't earn XP.

 

[Just_Spectating]

the original mana burn ability works?

but not your custom one?

try to give your custom hero the original mana burn.

 

[Meticulous]

That is very strange. And if a "common enemy" kills another player's units, your heroes will only gain experience if the killing player is allied to you.

 

[Anachron]

let's say he used a healing ward with a negative value

Fail, thats totally wrong. Only if the last hitpoint lost is caused by an enemy it counts as a kill.

 

[Just_Spectating]

but hes talking about the mana burn.

 

[Anachron]

Umm so I missunderstood him, I see.

 

[BlacKcuD]

Is the dummy which fires the mana burn a structure? If this is true it is standard that you wont be granted any xp.

Go to 'Gamplay Constants' again and change the value "Building Kill Grant XP" to 'true'. It's quite at the top of the list.

 

[Just_Spectating]

i dont think he's using any dummy abilities however.

 

[mecatronic]

ohhhhhh, yes it's a building!

how didn't I see that before!? Thanks for your help and +rep!

SOLVED!

 

[Just_Spectating]

Wahh?? when did you say you were using a dummy unit!?

 

[mecatronic]

i didn't. It's not a dummy unit.

..but it's a building anyway.

 

[Just_Spectating]

this whole time i thought it was a hero or unit casting this :/

yeah, the "unit is a building" description would of gotten your answer alot sooner.

 

[Anachron]

Rofl, you wanted to give an building xp? MUahahahahahahahahah [/infernallaughoff]

 

[Meticulous]

Rofl, you wanted to give an building xp? MUahahahahahahahahah [/infernallaughoff]

Fail, that's totally wrong.

Buildings killing units don't grant experience is the gist of this topic. Important factor in ladder game balance.

 

[Anachron]

No, I meant, you wanted to give experience TO the building, so its acting like an hero. Anyway its fixed nowadays.