[Trigger] Help with simple GUI spell

[Erkowich]

I am trying to make a really simple spell based on doom. The thing i want to add via triggers is that when the unit dies he damages a small area around him, and i know there is a thing you can use to damage the area around the unit.
But i get lost when i'm choosing options on events and conditions, when i looked at option: unit dies it seems unlogical that i can do anyting to that unit under actions, since it dead. Could any1 give me a hint so i can manage to make this simple thing.

 

[En_Fuego]

• Melee Initialization
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Dies
  • Conditions
    • ((Triggering unit) has buff Doom) Equal to True
  • Actions
    • Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units within 512.00 of (Position of (Triggering unit)) matching (((Owner of (Picked unit)) is an enemy of (Owner of (Triggering unit))) Equal to True)) and do (Actions)
      • Loop - Actions
        • Unit - Cause (Triggering unit) to damage (Picked unit), dealing 500.00 damage of attack type Spells and damage type Normal

That probably leaks or something, so it would be a good idea to learn about leaks and how to solve them. If you know how to solve leaks already, good for you.

 

[terradont]

A dying unit doesn't have buffs, therefore that won't work.

 

[En_Fuego]

Dang, overlooking miniscule details.
I'm having trouble finding a solution to this without putting it in JASS. So, uh, have fun with it.

 

[Maximash]

Just do a unit- damage area thing, with a dummy if you have to. Order the dummy to damage area at position of dying unit.
then remove the dummy of course.

 

[Zack1996]

Just create a dummy unit with incinerate and make it last as long as the doom, then make the unit attack/use incinerate on the enemy unit. That might work but I haven't tested it for bugs and stuff.

 

[En_Fuego]

To do this, you have to check for a unit that is dying. You also have to designate the unit that has the buff Doom. The only way I can do this in GUI is to run a periodic check for when the unit dies. But I'm unsure of how to create a variable that can fit both slots.

 

[idodik]

Hm... How about instead of basing that spell on Doom, base it on Incinerate instead, then each second make the Casting Unit damage the targeted unit via triggers? If it applies the buff then this could work.

 

[Erkowich]

Hm... How about instead of basing that spell on Doom, base it on Incinerate instead, then each second make the Casting Unit damage the targeted unit via triggers? If it applies the buff then this could work.

Isn't incinerate a ability that is always active, you don't have to target a unit or anything for it to act?

 

[doom_sheep]

add him to unit group as spell is cast. every .06 secs pick every unit in group and check if theyre dead or dont have the buff

i dont know how to make the correct unit do the damage though. incinerate is probably the better way

 

[idodik]

Isn't incinerate a ability that is always active, you don't have to target a unit or anything for it to act?

You're right, my solution fits for a multi- splash doom though! xD
I think that you should add the ability Kaboom to the target, then make the unit cast it in its place. Hope it works.

 

[-Berz-]

Lol, this is just i was doing 2 years ago...simple make a dummy with damage upon death ability, than put that dummy to replace the doom minion, and add duration to 0.01, it worked for me without triggering. =)

 

[doom_sheep]

oh lawl, i didnt remember it had a summon

yeah, easy.

 

[Erkowich]

Lol, this is just i was doing 2 years ago...simple make a dummy with damage upon death ability, than put that dummy to replace the doom minion, and add duration to 0.01, it worked for me without triggering. =)

meh, so simple xD. i never thought of that even that i knew doom summoned a unit.

 

[Rmx]

you really simply do it just do that :

Unit start effect of an ability
Abiltitie being cast is equal to doom
SET UNIT = Targeted unit of abilitie being cast

A unit Dies
Dying unit is UNIT
the rest is up too u

REmember to set UNIT = No unit (null that unit)

 

[En_Fuego]

There is no variable that can fit both of those slots in GUI.

 

[Rmx]

yes there is ur using the old version of WE

 

[En_Fuego]

The 'old' version is the Frozen Throne Version? Since when?

 

[Dr Super Good]

Actually, I would imagine a dieing unit would be able to have a buff. As the death event should fire before the unit truely dies but after the death process is initiated.

This is if it uses the same logic as the on damage event which fires after the process is initiated but before the actual damage is delt.

As for the patch topic... Make sure you have the lattest patch installed from battlenet as many of them fixed bugs and added new content to WE.

 

[En_Fuego]

I have patch 1.22.0.6328.
I tested the trigger with a Dying Unit and the buff Doom and it didn't work. So I'm guessing it doesn't check that way.
For the variable, provide me with an example if this 'so-called' variable exists.

 

[-Berz-]

Since unit dies(is dead) it can't have a buff...and btw. problem was solved ~6 posts ago..

 

[Dr Super Good]

Yes but events fire before the actual thing that triggers them occurs. Eg the unit is damaged event fires before the actual damage is dealt. The order evenets fire before the actual order is issued. Thus surly the death event will fire before the unit dies but after its health becomes too low to live.

 

[terradont]

But still it won't work.
I'm not too sure about when the event really happens but i've understood it that unit dies is triggered right after the unit dies. And as Berzerker said, a dead unit can't have a buff.

In the even "A unit is attacked" it triggers right after the attacking unit attacks, not when the attacked unit is hit. There's a clear difference there.

 

[Mooglefrooglian]

Theres a simple way to test all this of course.

 

[terradont]

But you will soon figure out that most members of the Hive os too alzy to open up their WE. x.x

 

[Rmx]

but when it dies and it was as variabel a unit dies unit is equal to UNIT (variabel) so it should work that way

 

[terradont]

Ofc, but the problem there is that it won't be MUI. I don't know if he wants it MUI though.

 

[Rmx]

If he wants it MUI you could arrays for the variabel UNIT[?] that should work and increase those arrays each time it is casted

 

[terradont]

Yes but i think there is a maximum limit to arrays.
But one thing occurred to me. If the spell should be like doom it has a duration until the unit dies right?
Then you could add the afflicted unit to a unit group when the spell is casted.
Check every 0.3 seconds of gametime for all dead units in the group.
Create a dummy unit etc. etc.
remove the dead units from the group.

 

[Rmx]

if a unit is spawned by doom then u can add a unit is summoned kill summonded unit and damage circulaire area around that unit (coz when unit dies and he is affected by doom a unit will be summoned from him ) u can just kill that summoned unit and damage all circulaire area around it

 

[Igor_Z]

Events: A unit starts the effects of an ability
Conditions:Ability is being cast equal to (your Doom)
Actions: Set Target = Targeted unit of ability is being cast
If: Target is dead(this is in bolean)
Then: Cause to damage X area(your choice)
Else:

 

[terradont]

if a unit is spawned by doom then u can add a unit is summoned kill summonded unit and damage circulaire area around that unit (coz when unit dies and he is affected by doom a unit will be summoned from him ) u can just kill that summoned unit and damage all circulaire area around it

Yeah, thats a good idea. When you put it that way, i know it can be done without triggers.