Help with reflect damage

[Altazen]

I need help with a buff that increases damage by a high amount, but causes anything you attack while under that buff to reflect damage to you.

5 levels, level 1, 100% reflect, level 2, 90% reflect, level 3, 80% reflect, level 4, 70% reflect, level 5, 60% reflect.

Don't bother suggesting trying to use a dummy with thorns aura by the way... Applying the aura is a bit delayed and it's a bit hard to manipulate it so it only affects the attacked unit. I'll take a jass suggestion, but I'll need it posted, pls. I'm no good at jass... thanks.

 

[Marcelo Hossomi]

You'll need a damage detection system to effectively detect damage dealt by the attacker, and reflect that damage at the same moment the damage is calculated.

You can look at the JASS or Tutorials section in this site =P
You'll find plenty of explanation, I think.

 

[darkrider]

well... very well done damage detection systems exists... but perhaps maybe a little too much for a simple spell

if you want i can help you to create a damage detection system in gui (not efficient and that kind of things... but it will work )

 

[Altazen]

Anything will work as long as its mui.

 

[darkrider]

well... maybe you should try to implement a damage detection system made in jass ... a DDS made in gui can also detect damage taken for many units... but jass is a lot better

else

here is the main idea...

there is an action: "add event to trigger" where you can add an event to a trigger (duh!) but the thing with it is that you can add a unit variable to an event of "takes damage" for IE:

unit starts the effect of an ability

ability beeing cast = to blabla

add to trigger (damage detection) (Castin unit) takes damage


this will make as event in a trigger called "damage detection" your casting unit takes damage

making posible for you to detect when any unit added via this trigger takes damage

the problem is that events are never deleted (even if the unit dies... those events stay there)... if you need (and wanna keep going with this) i can try to help you a little bit more

 

[Altazen]

Hmm. Okay, so damage is detedted. Now how to reflect it, and make sure that the never deleted events don't cause that much of a nuisance? And if the events aren't deleted, might that cause some lag late game?

 

[Ripoff]

Unit is attacked
Attacking unit has buff "frenzy" equal to true
If frenzy equal to lvl 1 or something
Make attacked unit Deal damage taken to attacking unit (yes that is possible)
if frenzy equal to lvl 2, can u store the damage taken in a variable, divide it by 100, and multiplie it with 90.

Will that work?

 

[darkrider]

Unit is attacked
Attacking unit has buff "frenzy" equal to true
If frenzy equal to lvl 1 or something
Make attacked unit Deal damage taken to attacking unit (yes that is possible)
if frenzy equal to lvl 2, can u store the damage taken in a variable, divide it by 100, and multiplie it with 90.

unit is attacked fires when the attackers raises his hand... not when the attacked takes damage... so Attacked unit will not work... once you have detected the damage taken by a unit make a trigger that deals "damage taken * 0.something" to (any unit)

 

[Altazen]

Hold everything. I found a bit of a bug with this set. It reflects ALL damage types, whether it's from attack or magic. Kind of like Spectre's dispersion ability. What I need is a skill that increases one's damage, but causes any damage caused by his attacks to be partially reflected back to himself. Any ideas?

 

[darkrider]

Unit is attacked

attacking unit equal to your hero

trigger - turn on X unit tages damage trigger

----

X unit takes damage

Damage source = to (The hero who has splash ability)


trigger - turn off this trigger
all of the other actions


---

A unit starts the effect of an ability

Castin unit equal to (the unit that has splash damage ability)

trigger - turn off X unit takes damage


---

youll need all of those triggers/actions to make it work... but even thou it has its flaws... as i said... i recommend a damage detection system... but this may work... not 100%... perhaps a 70%~80%


EDIT: if you add an event for a unit that has already been added it will be added again... you have to use a unit group and check if the unit is in that group... if it is not then add the unit to the event and add the unit to the group... else dont add it to the event

 

[terradont]

Just a little sidenote
To use an dummy thorns would be pretty unnecessary, since you could use an inverted Vampiric aura(though only works for melee units) or Life Steal (item)(though an orb effect)

 

[darkrider]

mmm... ive been thinking... what about if you make an ability that increases your damage but you make it target yourself in the object editor... might this work?

 

[terradont]

You mean that the increased damage would target the attacker? Not without Vampiric aura i'm afraid.

The targets are for the spell only, not the buff or effect

 

[darkrider]

well... i tried

coz he doesnt want it to be passive full time... he wanted it to be casted

 

[terradont]

Easy to make vampiric aura a buff with triggers though

 

[darkrider]

yep... indeed

 

[Altazen]

The slight problem is that auras are delayed in activating. When a dummy is summoned with an aura, it takes about 1 point something seconds to apply the aura buff, and another delay to remove it once the dummy is gone.

 

[MistAssass]

Ok here is an idea for you :
Make your ability from immolation and when you active immolation you add in to a spell book on your hero a dummy spell made from thons aura but you modify the targets to enemy (only) when you order unimmolation or your out of mana the aura should be removed from the spell book

 

[Saishy]

Defend can support melee attacks?
Because it can reflect % damage...

Edit: Spiked Carapace?

 

[terradont]

The slight problem is that auras are delayed in activating. When a dummy is summoned with an aura, it takes about 1 point something seconds to apply the aura buff, and another delay to remove it once the dummy is gone.

Set buff duration to 0.01

 

[Lord_BoNes]

In order to stop the delay, just remove the "buff" ability-id when the effect is over with... The buff disappears immediately. As for there being a delay when the aura starts, I can't say that I agree with you there.

 

[Altazen]

Well, wont thorns aura reflect damage to every melee unit that attacks and not just the guy with the buff?

 

[SanKakU]

it should be so simple as to be able to take the unit is damaged event and put in an action making the damaged unit hurt the source of damage according to the damage ammount. problem with this is that it can only be used with a specific unit.
that's what i found out. so i hit a dead end. eh...it's a mystery.

by the way...can the damage stuff even be used unless you are using units that are placed on the map? i tried using a variable unit for the specific unit event and it doesn't work.

 

[terradont]

it should be so simple as to be able to take the unit is damaged event and put in an action making the damaged unit hurt the source of damage according to the damage ammount. problem with this is that it can only be used with a specific unit.
that's what i found out. so i hit a dead end. eh...it's a mystery.

by the way...can the damage stuff even be used unless you are using units that are placed on the map? i tried using a variable unit for the specific unit event and it doesn't work.

You'll have to add the event through a specific trigger. This leaks though.

 

[darkrider]

well... maybe you should try to implement a damage detection system made in jass ... a DDS made in gui can also detect damage taken for many units... but jass is a lot better

else

here is the main idea...

there is an action: "add event to trigger" where you can add an event to a trigger (duh!) but the thing with it is that you can add a unit variable to an event of "takes damage" for IE:

unit starts the effect of an ability

ability beeing cast = to blabla

add to trigger (damage detection) (Castin unit) takes damage


this will make as event in a trigger called "damage detection" your casting unit takes damage

making posible for you to detect when any unit added via this trigger takes damage

the problem is that events are never deleted (even if the unit dies... those events stay there)... if you need (and wanna keep going with this) i can try to help you a little bit more


unit is attacked fires when the attackers raises his hand... not when the attacked takes damage... so Attacked unit will not work... once you have detected the damage taken by a unit make a trigger that deals "damage taken * 0.something" to (any unit)


Unit is attacked

attacking unit equal to your hero

trigger - turn on X unit tages damage trigger

----

X unit takes damage

Damage source = to (The hero who has splash ability)


trigger - turn off this trigger
all of the other actions


---

A unit starts the effect of an ability

Castin unit equal to (the unit that has splash damage ability)

trigger - turn off X unit takes damage


---

youll need all of those triggers/actions to make it work... but even thou it has its flaws... as i said... i recommend a damage detection system... but this may work... not 100%... perhaps a 70%~80%


EDIT: if you add an event for a unit that has already been added it will be added again... you have to use a unit group and check if the unit is in that group... if it is not then add the unit to the event and add the unit to the group... else dont add it to the event

the next time try to read what other people has posted before posting... perhaps you can learn something