Help With Map Optimizer

[Mr_Bean]

I have always used Vexorian's Warcraft 3 Map Optimizer to protect and optimize my maps. However, when I try to optimize the latest version of my map, it makes the file size 40% bigger (usually it is 18% smaller)! The only major difference between the latest version and previous ones is the use of vJASS (previously I only used JASS).

Any ideas?

Thanks!

 

[Troll-Brain]

Is there any vJass script which is using imported natives functions ?
Like native UnitAlive (or something like that, can't remember the exact name)

 

[Mr_Bean]

No, all of the script I wrote and I haven't imported any.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Find out which file is being made bigger.

 

[Mr_Bean]

How do I do that? :/

 

[Troll-Brain]

With some mopaq browser probably, such as winmpq.

Compare the size of the files with the normal map and the optimized one.

 

[Mr_Bean]

Is this what you are looking for. These are the sizes of the mentioned files that increase after optimization. Files not mentioned either remain the same or decrease in size.

war3mapUnits.doo: 2902 to 12224
war3map.w3u: 39501 to 40703
war3map.w3t: 25757 to 43530
war3map.w3a: 138597 to 214855

 

[Troll-Brain]

Well, i have no clue of what is happening, but these files are not related to map script, so neither (v)Jass.
Try to play with wc3mapoptimizer options.

Also i don't know if the widgetizer increases or decreases the map size, but it worths a try.

Alternatively, after wc3mapoptimizer, you could manually replace these files by their lower size ones.

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

I think that you have older version of Vexorian's optimizer, or you picked a one from unreliable source. Anyways, tell me one thing: do you have any sounds imported?

I am sure you do. Just convert all the .wav files you got in there with .mp3.
Your map should be fixed.

This is a very old glitch with Vex's Optimizer I have encountered few times before.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Some map load time optimization processes require that the source data be expanded slightly. This is why widgitizer increases map size in a lot of cases.

 

[Mr_Bean]

I think that you have older version of Vexorian's optimizer, or you picked a one from unreliable source. Anyways, tell me one thing: do you have any sounds imported?

I am sure you do. Just convert all the .wav files you got in there with .mp3.
Your map should be fixed.

This is a very old glitch with Vex's Optimizer I have encountered few times before.

I'm pretty sure I downloaded it from the proper site (linked in first post). I don't have any imported sounds. I only use ones that are available in the World Editor. However, I have always used these sounds, so they can't be the problem.

EDIT: I downloaded the program again, but still no difference.
EDIT 2: I ran the Optimizer on an old version of my map (with the same settings), and it made it 27% smaller. The problem must be with my new version somehow...
EDIT 3: Perhaps the cause could be the custom loading screen and minimap preview that are new to the latest version?

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

You have to be careful with what formats you use in your map. Try to enlist me the ones you are using: such as BLP, MDX, ...

 

[Mr_Bean]

LoadingScreen.mdx
LoadingScreenTL.blp
LoadingScreenTR.blp
LoadingScreenBL.blp
LoadingScreenBR.blp

war3mapPreview.tga

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

Then I really don't know what's issue then... Have you used AI editor? Using WEU, maybe?
Since this increases object data files, maybe you have some issues with them?

 

[Mr_Bean]

No, I haven't used the AI editor. I use JASS NewGen Pack 5d for the latest version. For all my other previous versions I used the normal World Editor. Could this be the issue?

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

JNGP works perfectly fine for me, and for many other users. Have you tried to seek troubleshooting on google for JNGP only?

 

[Mr_Bean]

Mine works fine too, it's just that when optimized, the file size increases by ~40%.

 

[Mr_Bean]

Update:
The problem is with the loading screen! Once I removed the following imports from the map, the optimized size decreased by 27%:

LoadingScreen.mdx
LoadingScreenTL.blp
LoadingScreenTR.blp
LoadingScreenBL.blp
LoadingScreenBR.blp

war3mapPreview.tga

Any ideas on how to fix this?

 

[Dr Super Good]

Turn off the one option in vexorians optimizer than effects .blp files. Namingly "Clean BLPs". Might also be due to the different type of compression used being less effective on that particular type of .blp compression. Especially if you are using palleted storage in your .blp files it might make a difference.

If that does not help, try storing the loading screens in a different format of .blp (you should have JPEG, uncompressed, palleted and texture compression to choose from although I am not sure if texture compression was only introduced it .blp 2.0 (WoW)).

 

[Mr_Bean]

Turn off the one option in vexorians optimizer than effects .blp files. Namingly "Clean BLPs".

Oh my gosh, thank you so much! It works fine now, and it makes the map about 15% smaller.

Much appreciated!