[General] How to optimize map /2 ?

[jonhysone]

Hello!
I have a big anime map but I just imported some models for 12 characters . But I saw in many maps there are more than 20 characters . I've seen somewhere I need War3SLK + Vexorian + Spazzler to do that . How to use SLK + VEXORIAN and how to use Spazzler in Python? If there is another tool , just tell me please
Thank you

EDIT : I can just optimize it 7%/8%
For example my map is 8.7 mb it becomes 8.0 :| only 0.7 mb optimized

 

[GreeN!X]

Well, you shouldn't really expect half of the map size to be optimized. 0.7 mb is already a pretty big amount of size for me and maybe to most of the modders.

and Well, when importing models, I usually..
-Don't import heavy models
-Don't use an HQ loading screen
-Don't use models with a lot of unnecessary animation

 

[Rheiko]

you can also optimize the skins you used (anime models is full of skins and shit)
it will dramatically lower you map file size, well this is just my guess
it can be wrong

 

[Daffa]

I believe Spec's BLP Lab can optimize models a bit.

 

[Rheiko]

what i know about anime models:
the skins are included in the models
if you lowered the skins' quality, it'll lower your map size

 

[Radicool]

I believe Spec's BLP Lab can optimize models a bit.

As far as I know, BLP lab can only work with textures.

Models will have a texture, unless they use ingame textures. This means, models normally come with an extra .blp file along with the .mdx file. They can even have multiple .blp files. These .blp files are basically like images which can be compressed. Open each .blp file up and compress it with BLP lab. You can compress down to 40%-45% quality without noticing much difference. I normally compress to 30%, however you may start noticing a loss in quality.

The bigger the model is, the more you will notice a loss in quality. You may want to use 60-75% quality for large models such as big trees or buildings. You can get away with much higher compression if the character is small.

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/tools-560/blp-lab-v0-5-0-a-137599/

 

[Rheiko]

^very useful information from Radicool

 

[PurgeandFire]

Hello!
I have a big anime map but I just imported some models for 12 characters . But I saw in many maps there are more than 20 characters . I've seen somewhere I need War3SLK + Vexorian + Spazzler to do that . How to use SLK + VEXORIAN and how to use Spazzler in Python? If there is another tool , just tell me please
Thank you

EDIT : I can just optimize it 7%/8%
For example my map is 8.7 mb it becomes 8.0 :| only 0.7 mb optimized

Spazzler doesn't optimize, it just edits the MPQ's header to throw off MPQ editors. To run it, you need to download python (google it), then run it through terminal.

Vex's optimizer + SLK opt will only do so much. In fact, you might want to try the optimizer by itself (or SLK opt by itself) to see if you can get better results. iirc SLK performs a task similar to widgetizing the map, so there may be an increase in file size (but significantly decreased loading time).

Now, there are numerous ways to optimize a map. First, you should squish all your models and reimport them:
http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?p=800246&fromattachment=800246
Even though it won't show a file size difference on the hard drive, it will compress much better within the MPQ, resulting in lower file sizes.

Second, if that isn't enough, you should use BLP Lab (as radicool noted). Save the blp textures with lower quality than usual. Usually 40% to 60% with JPEG compression should be fine.

Compress all audio when possible by reducing the bit rate using a tool like audacity.

Finally, run vex's optimizer/war3slkopt on it and it should be fine. If your map is 8.7 MB uncompressed, then there should be no issue getting it below 8 MB. You can usually cut maps down in half (e.g. 12 MB to 6 MB) without sacrificing much *noticeable* quality.

 

[jonhysone]

Optimizing Scripts like .j corrupts my map , So I need to uncheck it :| but i get a higher size D: wtf is the problem?

 

[Daffa]

what did you use?

 

[jonhysone]

Vexorian once and SLKopt another . Both of them corrupt . If I run map through World editor it works fine

 

[PurgeandFire]

It shouldn't corrupt your map. It deletes editor-specific data, so it is able to be ran in Warcraft 3 but unable to be opened in the editor (that serves as both protection from editing and optimization).

You should keep a back-up of the map that you use for editing. Whenever you want to release or test it, then you just run the optimizer and play the optimized version instead. When you need to edit it again, use the unoptimized version.

 

[jonhysone]

Hmm that was the problem of Script name compression in use ... I just clicked the OK and kept optimizing always . Finally it works fine .