Hardened Skin question

[ZiGOR]

Hi everyone!

Guys, I have a question... It seems to me that Hardened skin blocks Spells damage too, is it?

If yes - how to make it not to block spells damage? Is it any other way to make a spell that makes unit to block some physical damage?

 

[LordDz]

Hardened Skin
"Reduces all attacks on the Mountain Giant by 12 damage. Attacks cannot be reduced below 3 damage. This means that lower units can't really damage him. You will need to use Tier 3 units such as Tauren, Knights, Bears, and Abominations."

Resistant Skin
"Gives Mountain Giants increased resistance to spell damage. This gives the unit hero magic resistance, similar to the resistance that level 6+ creeps have. Namely, you can't be Polymorphed, Possessed, etc, and all offensive spells have a shorter duration on the target (such as stuns, Ensnare, etc). It DOES NOT reduce damage dealt to the target, however. That’s an effect of hero armor, not hero magic resistance. "

http://classic.battle.net/war3/nightelf/units/mountaingiant.shtml

 

[ZiGOR]

Hardened Skin
"Reduces all attacks on the Mountain Giant by 12 damage. Attacks cannot be reduced below 3 damage. This means that lower units can't really damage him. You will need to use Tier 3 units such as Tauren, Knights, Bears, and Abominations."

Resistant Skin
"Gives Mountain Giants increased resistance to spell damage. This gives the unit hero magic resistance, similar to the resistance that level 6+ creeps have. Namely, you can't be Polymorphed, Possessed, etc, and all offensive spells have a shorter duration on the target (such as stuns, Ensnare, etc). It DOES NOT reduce damage dealt to the target, however. That’s an effect of hero armor, not hero magic resistance. "

http://classic.battle.net/war3/nightelf/units/mountaingiant.shtml

Okay, I'll explain... I have an item that has Hardened Skin ability in it that has 100% chance to block 20 damage.
I have a hero that has kind of Immolation spell, but damage is triggered! Every 0.25 seconds it damages all nearby units by (damage amount)/4 with attack type Spells and damage type Normal

Question: why hero that carries that item almost don't take any damage?

 

[Ezekiel12]

Use damage type magic to let the triggered immolation bypass the hardened skin.

If you want to know more you could read http://www.wc3c.net/showpost.php?p=1030046&postcount=19.

 

[muzzel]

How does that triggered immolation look like? In particular the parameters of "UnitDamageTarget(...)" are important.

 

[ZiGOR]

Use damage type magic to let the triggered immolation bypass the hardened skin.

If you want to know more you could read http://www.wc3c.net/showpost.php?p=1030046&postcount=19.

This is very useful thanks, but listen what I've noticed:

I changed damage type to Fire and it works too... the question is: Will the Elune's Grace ability protect a hero from a damage type: Fire of my spells?

 

[Ezekiel12]

the question is: Will the Elune's Grace ability protect a hero from a damage type: Fire of my spells?

With attack type 'Spells'? Yes.

 

[ZiGOR]

With attack type 'Spells'? Yes.

thanks)

 

[Adiktuz]

ardened Skin
"Reduces all attacks on the Mountain Giant by 12 damage. Attacks cannot be reduced below 3 damage. This means that lower units can't really damage him. You will need to use Tier 3 units such as Tauren, Knights, Bears, and Abominations."

not really... it means that the minimum damage after reduction is 3 damage... so if the damage before reduction is for example 12, reduction is 12, it should be 0 right? but no, it will become 3 because that's the minimum