GUI Trigger Help - Inserting an Integer into a Damage Event

[teozamait]

I need help with this trigger - I want to set the damage as Arthas Strenght x 2 but I do not know how do load a variable (an integer) into a damage event...it just does not seem to be on the list. I don't know if this makes sense...

• Arthas Strenght
  • Events
    • Time - Every 2.00 seconds of game time
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Set ArthasStrenght = (Strength of Arthas (Include bonuses))

• Holy Smite Bonus
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Is attacked
  • Conditions
    • (Attacking unit) Equal to Arthas
    • ((Attacked unit) has buff Breath of Fire) Equal to True
  • Actions
    • Unit - Cause Arthas to damage (Attacked unit), dealing 500.00 damage of attack type Spells and damage type Normal

I want the damage to be 2 X Arthas' Strenght. But if I click on the 500 flat number I get no options to insert the Integer Variable ArthasStrenght, only some Aritmetic options.

I know that Unit is Attacked is not a reliable Event but for me it will do just fine.

 

[Alright]

• Actions
  • Set integer = (Strength of (Triggering unit) (Include bonuses))

This function is via Integer > Hero - Hero attribute in the drop list. Then use an arithmetic to multiply it by 2, and you should have the answer. I wouldn't recommend that you set Arthas's strength to an integer variable every 2 seconds, just declare the integer variable when that specific situation happens (like that last trigger).

Also, I recommend you use the search function; threads like this has been posted over and over.

 

[Daffa]

The kind of integer one used for damage is "real".
In GUI, you need to use "Convert Integer to Real" in the menu of the damage. Then you can retrieve the integer.

These 2 triggers can be combined actually. Don't use attacked event, as it's abusable. Use DDS

 

[Wietlol]

As Daffa the Mage said, you should do:

• Unit - Cause DDS_Source to damage DDS_Target, dealing (Real((Strength of DDS_Source (Include bonuses))) x 2.00) damage of attack type Spells and damage type Normal

Or you could just increase the value of the damage using the DDS.
It gives you a value of how much damage is dealt and you can increase that (if you want to use the same attack and damage types).
Be aware that DDS do not take proper resistance calculation in honor.

 

[teozamait]

I know I'm supposed to use a DDS but I'm not sure learning to use one is worth it...Attacked Unit is fine for the moment, it's just a campaign and one unit, I'm not worried about people abusing it.

Does using a DDS imply that all damage in the campaign will have to be triggered? Because I definitely don't want that.

Anyway thank you all in particular Daffa, what I was looking for was the Convert Integer to Real.

 

[Wietlol]

A DDS is supposed to not change any of the behavior.
Ofcourse that doesnt really mean that everything will work the same.
Some stuff like drain life, mana shield and some resistance stuff will not work immediately.

 

[teozamait]

Care to elaborate? If for example I have a DDS implemented in my map and I only want to use it for a few attacks and maybe a couple of abilities, would un-triggered abilities or triggered abilities that don't use the DDS (instead they use the unit is target of ability cast) be affected?

Damage would be dealt through a GUI deal damage event anyway, and that is separate from a DDS right? Why would a DDS affect resistances, since it is only meant to detect the damage being dealt and the unit that dealt the damage?

 

[Wietlol]

Because of a slight flaw in how a DDS works.
WC3 API only gives you an event of on-damage after the damage value has been reduced by armor, attack-type vs armor type, abilities that change the value, etc, etc, etc.
Every DDS works with that event, so if I deal 100 damage to you, and you have reduced it to 50 because of your armor, the DDS will say that I have dealt 50 damage.

Here is where the inaccuracy comes in place, changing that value (50) to 50 + 200 (because I got a triggered ability that deals 200 additional damage on attack), the final value will be 250.
However, if I added that 200 before calculating the final value (before armor and stuff), that would be (100 + 200) / 2 = 150, which is only 60% of the value we had before.
So changing that number is not really nice in most DDS.

Also, most DDS work with an ability that only reduces spell damage.
They use it to invert spell damage so negative damage comes from spells.
However, because of that WC3 only supports one spell damage reduction per unit, this will overwrite elune's grace, runed bracers, etc (or elune's grace, runed bracers, etc will overwrite the one by the DDS).

 

[teozamait]

Well I'm not really interested in getting the value/amount of the damage being done - what would be useful to me would be detecting when and who deals what type of damage.

 

[Wietlol]

DDS can kinda do that, they can (very accurately) assume if the damage came from basic attacks or spells, but not the specific attack type/damage type.

Target and source are ussually done.