Goblin Tower

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13:49, 19th Jun 2015
MiniMage: Useful.

 

[Footman16]

Wow, brilliant file-size for a building. Good job!

 

[skymarshall]

The 3 buildings I've uploaded this week should be a big help if you're planning to do a goblin race map!

I'm working on a mod to add goblins as a full race, and found tons of cool goblin units on THW but found I needed more buildings - hence I wasted hours of my life making these

 

[Footman16]

Not a Goblin race map unfortunately but a different kind of map. Still good to have on the Hive though.

 

[Stefan.K]

This looks great. And the filesize is just wow.

 

[Chaosium]

Very sweet! The only thing that bothers me is the base which I think is quite big for a tower, but meh that might just be me.

 

[Deleted member 237964]

Awesome.

 

[Edge45]

Hmm, the Stand Work is just sweet 4/5

 

[Eagle XI]

I suppose this can be used as sort of an Tech-Center you build to unlock better units and houses their upgrades.

 

[skymarshall]

My plan was to use this as a caster construction building, and use donut's junkyard model as an upgrade building, but hey, you can do what you like with it now that I've shared it

 

[xyzier_24]

Sweet! 4/5 goblinilicious.

 

[FireTiger]

Wow Very Useful 4/5.

 

[WhiteFang]

Very useful and interesting.I'm loving your goblin models

 

[Kam]

This is outstanding. The work animation is perfect for goblins.

 

[Krumpe]

Downloaded.

 

[Kyrbi0]

OK, Positives first:

I love this. A unique Goblin building, very simple but almost universally-useful in it's simplicity. A tower, a farm, a factory, a depot, an engineering bay... It could be anything! And while it's easy to see what each part comes from, it's an eclectic & unique mixture that I have yet to see (Rizz_Boomer's notwithstanding); a fitting homage to RB's building (which is also stellar).

The only things I could see changing:
- It almost seems too perfect... As in, too symmetrical, too even. Goblins are renowned for haphazard, confusing machinery & architecture; crooked stuff, bent things, strange pipes. This is almost too 'clean'. Perhaps it could be tilted a bit (aka "leaning tower of gob-isa" )? Perhaps one of the gears could rotate in the opposite direction (and/or @ a different speed)? Perhaps a few extra doodads to emphasize the cluttered, unkempt nature of Goblins (boxes, explosives, extra pipes, flags, etc).
- Along with the last bit of the above comment, I would consider some more TC. If you're not sure where it could go (neither am I), perhaps a nurny-addition could provide the space (see above).
- I really can't think of what exactly this is to be used for; in part it's "anyman's building"-ness means it's not particular enough. What did you you have in mind for it? Ah, seen your above comment. Welp, that makes sense. Though of course, depending on what kind of casters you have in your Goblin race, this might need some specialization (i.e. Alchemy-dudes, or Mech-dudes, or Explosive-dudes) as in the above. Meh, maybe.

Very good work. I'm excited to see more Goblin/Building/whatever models from you (and for the former, let me know if you need any... inspiration )

//EDIT// - So you too are making a Goblin race? Lol, who isn't. : ) I would love to hear more about that...

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

Again awesome work. Try having the gears go on opposite directions at different speeds.

 

[skymarshall]

kyrbi0,

thanks again for balanced feedback!

since I'm doing a few goblin buildings, I really wanted a couple to be free of goblin nurnies, and tried to give this one character by making the tower itself a bit crooked - figuring that the rotating gears and funnels were enough silliness.

I did try out a couple of different things with the gears, but in the end this was my favorite. My original idea was to have the whole middle section rotate, but this just looked ugly

There's one point you raised earlier that I really wanted to fix myself before I uploaded the model - and that's that the biggest funnel on my Goblin Outpost is just too stretched. I really need some ideas here (i.e. suggestions for model fragments I could pilfer) - I think the size itself for the funnel is what the model needs, but the texture is stretched to the extent that the blacksmith funnel doesn't look quite right. I tried putting a smaller funnel on a new block of structure, but that looked inferior, so I ended up leaving as is.

 

[Kenathorn]

You've made an awesome Goblin buildings pack. All the buildings are goodlooking and really useful. Their style is also very canon. I definetly like it! 5/5!

 

[SylvainRock]

Help me

I can't see the tower help me please

 

[skymarshall]

@Sylvain - from memory, that's what happens if you get the path of the model wrong in the Unit editor (or UnitUI.slk if you're editing an mpq).

The other common error I hit with models is if the MDL itself contains a path to an invalid (non-existent) texture, but then the game crashes outright.

To fix (I assume you're using a custom map), open your map in the world editor then

- go to "Art - Model File" in the object editor for your new unit
- double click on it
- set the custom to "GoblinTower" (note: you don't need the MDX extension)

Then open your map in an mpq editor and check that GoblinTower.MDX is in the root directory of the map. If it isn't, put it there.

I should caveat by saying that I do most of my meddling by modding MPQs rather than making custom maps, so this advice may not be complete, or the best method for putting custom models in maps!

If anyone suspects that there's a serious bug in the model, please let me know and I'll take a look.

 

[Kam]

Creative! The Stand Work animation suits Goblins.

 

[Kazakh]

Looks good thanks!

 

[RedKiwi]

I really like this model, I would like to use it as a Goblin Casino in a custom map but is there any chance you could make 2 little changes for me?
Firstly I'd like the sandbag wall around the door replaced with the 'Welcum' mat from the Goblin Laboratory. Next I'd really like the 'Temple of Boom' sign added to the roof.

Cheers!