Gems of Unification v13.02.26

[yuvixadun]

I just noticed.
1 After getting my recruit rank, and doing one of the quests available there, all bows became melee and lost the 450 range, but I dunno what the exact trigger for this issue is.
2 Amethyst cleansing quest from the archivist can be done several times (killed the 3 ghosts over 5 times now, yet no counter appears) and when finishing the quest, archivist keeps the question mark on his head, and drops another amethyst, I have at least 4 on the ground there.
3 Troll Huts destroying quest does not work for player 2. Two players on the game. Only player one (red) gets the huts destroyed counter updated each time, and sees the huts actually burning. player 2 cannot complete the quest and does not see the destroyed hut animation.

Haha, thanks again Makes me wonder how I missed those things. Tested all quests with my brother in LAN and none of these things happened.

Will look into it Thanks!

 

[justavoidsoul]

Quick thing.
Got my second rank, and I could se the icon of one star (rank 1) and the icon of two stars (rank 2). Besides not being able to save anymore (check my edited post above) I mentioned the bowe became melee. well, I died (some freaking turtles killed me while writing here lol). When I respawned, Only the two stars icon was seen, and I got my range back (so the range issue appears to be related to the recruit rank). Still, couldnt save my char (bohoo)

 

[Hexcellion]

Thank you very much for the feedback. I'll look into all the issues.
One thing; what do you exactly mean by playing in LAN? Because the game only checks if there is more than 1 player, else saving is disabled.

Local Arena Network. The one below Battle.Net, when you use that to play single player, you may not be able to use cheats like whosyourdaddy because it's not called "single player." So I'm asking you to add a possibility to play on LAN but not on single player, so that we could farm like when our teammates are still offline, etc.

Btw, I forgot to give 5/5 rating last night, and +rep, here it is.

 

[dattran]

I also agree with him, I almost have to play alone, looking for other to play with me in my place is very difficult, and although I play on GG, I did not save the game. Your map is very good, but you should change the save system . if not , you should change the Suggested Players : 1-6 become 2-6 .

 

[yuvixadun]

Quick thing.
Got my second rank, and I could se the icon of one star (rank 1) and the icon of two stars (rank 2). Besides not being able to save anymore (check my edited post above) I mentioned the bowe became melee. well, I died (some freaking turtles killed me while writing here lol). When I respawned, Only the two stars icon was seen, and I got my range back (so the range issue appears to be related to the recruit rank). Still, couldnt save my char (bohoo)

Thanks for telling about those ranks. The issue with the bow range has been found (had something to do with improving them). If everything goes right I can maybe push an update tomorrow with the fixes.

Local Arena Network. The one below Battle.Net, when you use that to play single player, you may not be able to use cheats like whosyourdaddy because it's not called "single player." So I'm asking you to add a possibility to play on LAN but not on single player, so that we could farm like when our teammates are still offline, etc.

Btw, I forgot to give 5/5 rating last night, and +rep, here it is.

I also agree with him, I almost have to play alone, looking for other to play with me in my place is very difficult, and although I play on GG, I did not save the game. Your map is very good, but you should change the save system . if not , you should change the Suggested Players : 1-6 become 2-6 .

Point taken, I'll see if there is a way to check if a game is singleplayer or a singleplayer LAN game. If so I'll make it possible to save in LAN.

 

[Hexcellion]

Point taken, I'll see if there is a way to check if a game is singleplayer or a singleplayer LAN game. If so I'll make it possible to save in LAN.

Thanks. Btw, do you have the save system which saves the players' code into a .txt file like in Gaia's Retaliation and GoH in this map? If not, then I suggest doing so. It's a neat system which most ORPG players would love in the maps they play. If so, then that's awesome.

 

[Alek]

Thanks. Btw, do you have the save system which saves the players' code into a .txt file like in Gaia's Retaliation and GoH in this map? If not, then I suggest doing so. It's a neat system which most ORPG players would love in the maps they play. If so, then that's awesome.

Yeah, he does.

 

[Hexcellion]

Yeah, he does.

Cool, thanks!

Btw, does it create a folder in wc3:\? If so, could you make it like this? wc3:\Savegames\GoU\Version\Username\.txtfile because there are already 4 ORPG's that I know of, which use this system. When this save system gets popular, then folders in our wc3 folder would get piled up. So I suggest having one folder which all of ORPG makers would use. GoH used a folder named Savegames, so I suggest you use it too. Thanks.

 

[yuvixadun]

Cool, thanks!

Btw, does it create a folder in wc3:\? If so, could you make it like this? wc3:\Savegames\GoU\Version\Username\.txtfile because there are already 4 ORPG's that I know of, which use this system. When this save system gets popular, then folders in our wc3 folder would get piled up. So I suggest having one folder which all of ORPG makers would use. GoH used a folder named Savegames, so I suggest you use it too. Thanks.

Thanks for the suggestion but I'm not going to assume a "default" save map where all RPG makes will drop in their saves. Creating version folders is a good idea though!

 

[Hexcellion]

Thanks for the suggestion but I'm not going to assume a "default" save map where all RPG makes will drop in their saves. Creating version folders is a good idea though!

Why so? It's really neat to have a single folder where you will be able to check all of your save codes instead of having a WC3 folder which contains 20+ folders in it full of different crap.

 

[Alek]

BUUUUUG. When you improve a Gloomshroud Vest, it loses its bonuses.

 

[yuvixadun]

Why so? It's really neat to have a single folder where you will be able to check all of your save codes instead of having a WC3 folder which contains 20+ folders in it full of different crap.

I agree with you that it would be a nice solution and I would do that if all RPG mapmakers do so, which I honestly doubt. Anyway it is out of my scope to determine the folder name so if you want this you should maybe start a thread on this forum about it so we can decide as a community how the foldername would be named.

BUUUUUG. When you improve a Gloomshroud Vest, it loses its bonuses.

Will fix in new update (which will roll out today).

 

[Ocelot]

Hey! That's me!

 

[Alek]

heres another one before you update it, i lost everything including my spells.

 

[yuvixadun]

heres another one before you update it, i lost everything including my spells.

Any specific things that you did? Learned some rare spells or had some rare items?
Did you spend 25 skill points yourself already? Or did you only have 25 points left?

Map is already updated though A large bug fix patch.

Changelog:
v12.05.20

• A lot of exploits and bugs have been fixed, because of this earlier save codes do not work with this new version, I apologize
• The game can now be saved in singleplayer LAN games!
• Two new commands have been added: -roll (displaying a random number between 1 and 100) and -clear (clears all text messages)
• View Stats, Rest and Spellbook now have their hotkeys displayed in their tooltip
• When playing the game in singleplayer an ingame message is displayed at the start of a game that saving has been disabled
• An aweful lot of bugs concerning loading a character have been solved (Birthsigns disappearing, faction choice for tauren/centaur, etc)
• Mana cost of a lot of abilities have been rescaled
• Deadly Poison now deals 1x Agility down from 1.5x Agility
• Gold cost for improving items increased and now dependant on item quality as it should be
• Gold cost for recipes reduced
• Birthsign quest is no longer available if you already have a birthsign
• Improving high leveled items should no longer cause disappearing stats
• All bugs concerning bows becoming melee items have been resolved
• Slaying the last boss of dungeon 1 (Mother) prematurely no longer causes the quest to bug
• Higher ranks should no longer collide with lower ranks when obtained
• Guard next to the ambassador in the centaur camp now has proper talk text
• Solved a bug concerning destroying troll huts with multiple players
• Solved a desync bug with Lost Merchandise quest
• A preview image has been added

 

[Alek]

Any specific things that you did? Learned some rare spells or had some rare items?
Did you spend 25 skill points yourself already? Or did you only have 25 points left?

Nope, everything was the same with my level 48 one (which was loadable) except this one is level 50.

 

[MYTZAO]

Unlearn Ability no longer gives you back a skill point...

OK didn't knew that

 

[yuvixadun]

Nope, everything was the same with my level 48 one (which was loadable) except this one is level 50.

Hmm, thats very strange. Tested with some dummy characters of level 50 and they save/load just fine. Kinda hard to find what causes this :/
Did you get that last bit of XP by a certain quest maybe?

Unlearn Ability no longer gives you back a skill point...

Thats because it never did

 

[yogiman]

i think i didnt get it. is this map playable alone (singleplayer) or not? or is it playable but not saveable so u have to play 10000 hours at once to walk through? bless

 

[Alek]

Hmm, thats very strange. Tested with some dummy characters of level 50 and they save/load just fine. Kinda hard to find what causes this :/
Did you get that last bit of XP by a certain quest maybe?

Ah, sorry dude. I cant remember.

 

[yuvixadun]

i think i didnt get it. is this map playable alone (singleplayer) or not? or is it playable but not saveable so u have to play 10000 hours at once to walk through? bless

You can play it alone, both in singleplayer (non-saveable) and alone in LAN (saveable).

 

[ayberkev]

Version v12.05.20.w3x(latest one) crashed 3 times.First it gave an error for all 5 of us then it kept desyncing ppl out of the game.It also keeps kicking me out of host lobby(i am using a clan bot and never had such problem before).I dont know whats wrong.

 

[yuvixadun]

Version v12.05.20.w3x(latest one) crashed 3 times.First it gave an error for all 5 of us then it kept desyncing ppl out of the game.It also keeps kicking me out of host lobby(i am using a clan bot and never had such problem before).I dont know whats wrong.

Very strange, didn't change things that could cause desyncs last update.
What error code does the crash give? A RAM error maybe?

I'll upload a newly compiled version in a second, try that one, maybe something went wrong with the map optimizer.

EDIT: uploaded.

 

[PachaXD]

steed brith sign

i just play it at single player lan, i found aproblem when i learned steed birthsign it is suposed to give me % atack rate and it doesnt, my stats showe 1.81 as after and before it, please check it i dont want a birth sign just for 10% ms....

 

[yuvixadun]

i just play it at single player lan, i found aproblem when i learned steed birthsign it is suposed to give me % atack rate and it doesnt, my stats showe 1.81 as after and before it, please check it i dont want a birth sign just for 10% ms....

Just checked the code and it works 100% correctly, its just a display issue so don't worry Will fix in next update.

 

[PachaXD]

Just checked the code and it works 100% correctly, its just a display issue so don't worry Will fix in next update.

ok thanks i thougth it could be just display bug too xD damm it is imposible to continue alone at second town xD

 

[ayberkev]

I tried it with diffrent ppl, we all seem to get desynced(i am guessing that it was desync since it just kicks you out of the game) after taking the quest item in the wrecked ship.I had no problems with older versions and i have all my graphic options at high.

 

[yuvixadun]

I tried it with diffrent ppl, we all seem to get desynced(i am guessing that it was desync since it just kicks you out of the game) after taking the quest item in the wrecked ship.I had no problems with older versions and i have all my graphic options at high.

Thanks for pointing that out. I've found the issue, for now avoid that quest. I'll update tonight with a fix.

EDIT: Ninja updated Issue should be solved now.

 

[PachaXD]

games

anyone know which bot have it to host it at b.net or anyone playing at garena?? or anyone hosting at b.net please i wanna play with some others xD

 

[DrizztDoUrden]

Really cool map, with some awesome ideas. But magic is OP I think - mage friend can kill last boss we found (in dungeon near minotaurs) with 2 casts if they are critical. Also fox (mb hawk also) is extremely stupid))) And I find idea of giving skills for quests and not to return crystals for unlearned skills bad because u can just farm noob quests and get as many skill points as u need.
But that's not really bad so still 5/5

 

[yuvixadun]

Really cool map, with some awesome ideas. But magic is OP I think - mage friend can kill last boss we found (in dungeon near minotaurs) with 2 casts if they are critical. Also fox (mb hawk also) is extremely stupid))) And I find idea of giving skills for quests and not to return crystals for unlearned skills bad because u can just farm noob quests and get as many skill points as u need.
But that's not really bad so still 5/5

I still need to do a lot of balancing, to be honest I haven't had a lot of time yet to look into that. About the second thing; this is true and will probably not change. Keeps higher level players in lower level zones to help out newbs

 

[PachaXD]

b.net

hey yuvixadun could u upload ur map at makemehost.com please? so i can host it freely at battle.net map makers have instant upload xD please ty and excellent map i love it!

 

[Hexcellion]

@yuvixadun, the creeps really need to get powered up. We had a party, 5 of us, and we killed the bandit lord and the wolf boss easily. Plus, the creeps are too easy, it's like, all of us just need to attack, then they get killed. Perhaps, giving them some skills, either passive or active, then giving a stronger active skills for bosses like an aoe stun, magic immunity or w/e.

 

[PachaXD]

@yuvixadun, the creeps really need to get powered up. We had a party, 5 of us, and we killed the bandit lord and the wolf boss easily. Plus, the creeps are too easy, it's like, all of us just need to attack, then they get killed. Perhaps, giving them some skills, either passive or active, then giving a stronger active skills for bosses like an aoe stun, magic immunity or w/e.

are u playing on battle.net? or were?

 

[yuvixadun]

@yuvixadun, the creeps really need to get powered up. We had a party, 5 of us, and we killed the bandit lord and the wolf boss easily. Plus, the creeps are too easy, it's like, all of us just need to attack, then they get killed. Perhaps, giving them some skills, either passive or active, then giving a stronger active skills for bosses like an aoe stun, magic immunity or w/e.

You're right, as said earlier I haven't had time for balancing, will do in next update. One thing that I want to implement is that creeps grow stronger for each player more than 2 players in game.

 

[PachaXD]

games

You're right, as said earlier I haven't had time for balancing, will do in next update. One thing that I want to implement is that creeps grow stronger for each player more than 2 players in game.

could someone add this map to clan bgn or makemehost.com bots!? i really want to play it withother people but anyone have added the map to bots! please!

 

[Hexcellion]

are u playing on battle.net? or were?

Garena. But I play on BNet too, but not on official servers. Because my wc3 isn't payed.

But I play on Euro BNet since it's free to play at, when I'm playing with other guys. But most of the time I'm at Garena.

 

[PachaXD]

Garena. But I play on BNet too, but not on official servers. Because my wc3 isn't payed.

But I play on Euro BNet since it's free to play at, when I'm playing with other guys. But most of the time I'm at Garena.

could u tell in which room u play? i would like to play with /ur friends since icant find people to play with /:

 

[EternaLife]

I just spent like 30 minutes getting to level 3, in singleplayer. I just now bought my second spell, which also cost 75 gold. The spell is called "Inner Courage", which generates threat by increasing damage 50%.

After trying it out, I find that my damage is exactly the same as before. Whats up with that?

 

[Alek]

I just spent like 30 minutes getting to level 3, in singleplayer. I just now bought my second spell, which also cost 75 gold. The spell is called "Inner Courage", which generates threat by increasing damage 50%.

After trying it out, I find that my damage is exactly the same as before. Whats up with that?

Inner Courage increases the threat generation by dealing damage, not the damage itself. But then again, the tooltip has some grammar errors itself cuz it makes you think that it increases your damage by 50%. Maybe it should say "Increases the threat generated by 50% when dealing damage".

 

[EternaLife]

Inner Courage increases the threat generation by dealing damage, not the damage itself. But then again, the tooltip has some grammar errors itself cuz it makes you think that it increases your damage by 50%. Maybe it should say "Increases the threat generated by 50% when dealing damage".

I see, thanks .

By the way, I have managed to kill the big wolf in single player, but I cant seem to kill the Ring Leader.

Has anyone else managed to kill the ring leader in single player? If so, how did you do it?

Also I cannot find any village to the South that has Gwnedolyn....

*Edit : And for pete's sake, add some mana regeneration items! Who wants to stand there all day sleeping waiting for mana to regen

Another *edit: I reached the furbologs part. But how the heck can anyone kill them, when they can regenerate their health like that? It's impossible.

 

[Fusion.Ashmedai]

Well first off, Gwendolyn is in the Night Elf village, just enter the bandit hideout and go straight down, then after exciting follow the sort of sand bridge to the night elf town, Gwendolyn is the green colored elf.

I've managed to solo everything until Gareth the Greedy. Taskmaster was a good challenge in a single player game but its easy with the right Birthsign and pet.

You can get pets at the hunter's hall building near Gwendolyn and the birthsign quest is after you talk to Gwendolyn claiming the 1st quest.

Atm im farming furbolgs easy due to pet, skill combo, high str and hp due to birthsign and always FF the shaman first.

Also get pots, like alot of it, took me 2 of those 300HP pots to kill Taskmaster.

 

[madd]

I found a minor bug. When using two-handed weapon and cast healing spell (probably other spells too, but I'm not sure), the attack animation becomes that of a Human Peasant unit (clobbing his left hand). Using one handed-handed weapons are no problem, but I haven't try bows and dual wielding stances yet.

As a side note, I would recommend you to make a trigger that can alter one hero's primary attribute. It's kind of pointless to raise agi stat, if you're primary and skill attacks are based on str anyway. But I might be wrong, will replay as a Rogue or Hunter type character.

And the lack of equipment vendors really disappoint me. I was hoping for a large two-handed hammer to my weapon. I made a character based on Warcraft 3 Paladin Hero, you see. Perhaps adding more weapons to the game would make it better. OR is that your intention all along, to make better weapons and equipments to be dropped from monsters all along? In that case, oh well.

All in all, I think this is a promising Rpg, with customizable Hero like I've never seen before. Will check on potential updates every now and then. Thanks for your work, and I apologize for any mistakes, and possible typos. Cheers!

 

[DrizztDoUrden]

There is a greate reason to incrase agi - dodge and crit. I have 50% x2 crit at the moment and 30+ dodge. And dmg is nice just because of top weaporns.

 

[EternaLife]

Well first off, Gwendolyn is in the Night Elf village, just enter the bandit hideout and go straight down, then after exciting follow the sort of sand bridge to the night elf town, Gwendolyn is the green colored elf.

I've managed to solo everything until Gareth the Greedy. Taskmaster was a good challenge in a single player game but its easy with the right Birthsign and pet.

You can get pets at the hunter's hall building near Gwendolyn and the birthsign quest is after you talk to Gwendolyn claiming the 1st quest.

Atm im farming furbolgs easy due to pet, skill combo, high str and hp due to birthsign and always FF the shaman first.

Also get pots, like alot of it, took me 2 of those 300HP pots to kill Taskmaster.

Which skills did you get? So far I have got Knucle Punch, Frenzied Strike, Shadow Embrace, and Savage Energy (restores 2 mana per attack).

When you say get pets, do you mean choose the summon pet as a spell?
If I have chosen crappy spells, is there any way to exchange back my spells for a spell point, so I can choose better spells?

Thanks mate

 

[EternaLife]

There is a greate reason to incrase agi - dodge and crit. I have 50% x2 crit at the moment and 30+ dodge. And dmg is nice just because of top weaporns.

Wow, thats crazy man. Do you recommend re-doing all of my stats, change them all from Strength to agility??

And where do u get top weapons? I am still trying to find weapons that I can to "improve item" at the night elf base, but it says I have no item that can be improved Any idea where to get the items that can be improved??

 

[DrizztDoUrden]

Almost every good item near dungeon 2. Something like sword of a dragon - got it from turtle boss is fine. Troll boss (he is bugged - 1 time he allies you and he is allied forever but u still can attack him and get items) gave nice off-hand. Harpy gave a crossbow and there were arrows in skeleton archer boss in D2. I don't recomend u making full agi - I have 10 str for some (with 40 dmg weaporn not too much, but ok) damage and 350 health. Our party tank has more then 1k health but in PvP he has no chance because of my ensnare)

 

[EternaLife]

Almost every good item near dungeon 2. Something like sword of a dragon - got it from turtle boss is fine. Troll boss (he is bugged - 1 time he allies you and he is allied forever but u still can attack him and get items) gave nice off-hand. Harpy gave a crossbow and there were arrows in skeleton archer boss in D2.

Is dungeon 2 below the night elf base? I don't think I've reached dungeon 2 yet. . .

 

[yuvixadun]

I just spent like 30 minutes getting to level 3, in singleplayer. I just now bought my second spell, which also cost 75 gold. The spell is called "Inner Courage", which generates threat by increasing damage 50%.

After trying it out, I find that my damage is exactly the same as before. Whats up with that?

It only increases your threat, not your damage. Will improve the tooltip next version, sorry about it

I see, thanks .

By the way, I have managed to kill the big wolf in single player, but I cant seem to kill the Ring Leader.

Has anyone else managed to kill the ring leader in single player? If so, how did you do it?

Also I cannot find any village to the South that has Gwnedolyn....

*Edit : And for pete's sake, add some mana regeneration items! Who wants to stand there all day sleeping waiting for mana to regen

Another *edit: I reached the furbologs part. But how the heck can anyone kill them, when they can regenerate their health like that? It's impossible.

You can get mana regen from staves or from the ability Savage Energy, good luck getting them

About the hp regen of Furbolgs; that's their shaman's rejuvenation, you should try to kill them first.

I found a minor bug. When using two-handed weapon and cast healing spell (probably other spells too, but I'm not sure), the attack animation becomes that of a Human Peasant unit (clobbing his left hand). Using one handed-handed weapons are no problem, but I haven't try bows and dual wielding stances yet.

As a side note, I would recommend you to make a trigger that can alter one hero's primary attribute. It's kind of pointless to raise agi stat, if you're primary and skill attacks are based on str anyway. But I might be wrong, will replay as a Rogue or Hunter type character.

And the lack of equipment vendors really disappoint me. I was hoping for a large two-handed hammer to my weapon. I made a character based on Warcraft 3 Paladin Hero, you see. Perhaps adding more weapons to the game would make it better. OR is that your intention all along, to make better weapons and equipments to be dropped from monsters all along? In that case, oh well.

All in all, I think this is a promising Rpg, with customizable Hero like I've never seen before. Will check on potential updates every now and then. Thanks for your work, and I apologize for any mistakes, and possible typos. Cheers!

Will look into the animation bug.
There are quite a few hammers out there, most items just drop of creeps (there are over 100 items so farm them! For a hammer I can recommend farming Gnoll Savages).

In addition; I think agility is a viable stat, it gives dodge, attack speed and crit chance. You only dislike it because it doesnt just give flat +damage but I think at some point a little +% attack or +% crit gives you a lot more dps than just another +1 damage.

Almost every good item near dungeon 2. Something like sword of a dragon - got it from turtle boss is fine. Troll boss (he is bugged - 1 time he allies you and he is allied forever but u still can attack him and get items) gave nice off-hand. Harpy gave a crossbow and there were arrows in skeleton archer boss in D2. I don't recomend u making full agi - I have 10 str for some (with 40 dmg weaporn not too much, but ok) damage and 350 health. Our party tank has more then 1k health but in PvP he has no chance because of my ensnare)

The troll boss is suppose to "surrender", I haven't been able to finish a quest there. He will give you a quest once you get him on a low % hp. It's just not implemented yet

Is dungeon 2 below the night elf base? I don't think I've reached dungeon 2 yet. . .

Nope, it's in Act II, you'll get there when you've crossed to bridge to the east which lies south of the NE village.

 

[DrizztDoUrden]

got a save broken:
-load cYpp-RAQf-h5vG-oqVr-3ixo-sG1G-9JoO-E6gd-0W6J-TL4v-oVMv-TjXu-JxoJ-V3ac-Rr
(i don't pretend it to be repaired, got what I had there already)