Game design program

[Gift_o_Chaos]

since i can no longer play wc3 due to vista I was thinking about making my own games. Though I don't know which program to buy. what I want something that would allow for high quality graphics (call of duty 3 style) with smooth play thrown in. any ideas?

 

[Redeemer59]

Game Maker is a program that allows a wide variety of things, although for First Person things you need to buy it, rather than download it, I think... But then again, it came out a long time ago, and might not be compatable with Vista. Or it might, I dunno, I just posted what popped into my head.

 

[SentryIII]

It depends on what programming languages you know. Some programs are freeware, some you have to pay for. Also, you'll need a friend to do the art because it's hard to get graphics artists to take your projects seriously.

 

[Kuhneghetz]

Multimedia Fusion 2 should be compatible with Vista, but you can't make 3D games with it.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

I'm also looking for a good game making software that's free and can make FPS'... and import MDX's.

Though, I'm pretty sure none exist. I don,t even think you can make your own game with mdx's...

 

[GST_Nemisis]

learn basic, C+, get a decent model maker like 3ds max and do it form scratch

 

[Gift_o_Chaos]

thanks thoguh I'm new to programming from scratch what I had in mind is doing The Eye of Terror from warhammer40k. later after I am more skilled I do the horus heresy.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Ask TerranUp16 XD, he is professional game designer. D

Seriously, you cannot make a good game from scratch, especially if you are alone, I suggest you mod another game which is compatible with vista.

 

[Kuhneghetz]

Wait! I remember that a guy from another forum made an FPS game via a program called FPS Creator and he gave us a link to the software. Though it's not free, I've heard it's a very good program.

 

[brad.dude03]

Download the Microsoft XNA Game Studio. It's probably the best for homebrew games, and learning C to run it will get you far in life, because many professional coding jobs require it.

As for Vista? It's not the end of the world!

If you still have a copy of XP (or can obtain one) then you can dual boot! Meaning that you can choose between running XP or Vista when you start your computer. It's the best way to go, and you can still have both, games and vista.

 

[Razorbrain]

doesnt wc3 work for vista?

thats strange, it works for my brother :S

 

[Mechanical Man]

Hmm, Vista... I guess that computer belongs to your parents, not you. I know it sucks

 

[GST_Nemisis]

Download the Microsoft XNA Game Studio.

yeh i seen that! i looks sick, i hopefully gunna start knocking about with it soon.

 

[Kitabatake]

Wait! I remember that a guy from another forum made an FPS game via a program called FPS Creator and he gave us a link to the software. Though it's not free, I've heard it's a very good program.

Oh horrible program. I have tried it...

1) If you want to get anything out of it, you have to buy the additional model packs.

2) The AI is very horrible.
The enemies stand there and when you come near enough they will look at you. After looking at you for 2 seconds the enemy will shoot at you...

Well the pro's for that program is that you don't need to know anything about coding... But the enemy AI destroys the game.

Very expensive and not worth the costs in my opinion.

 

[Mechanical Man]

1) It is possible to create custom models (along with ripping them from other games)? They say that those model packs contains WW2 and Sci-Fi models and every FPS is either WW2 or Sci-Fi , so making another FPS in that period does not make any sense

2) It is possible to write your own AI?

 

[Dr Super Good]

The AI for games like HALO 3 and Gears of War took probably 6 man months to make or more to make so unless you have a univercity qualification in artificial intelegance and crap I dought you can make an efficent AI that can out smart a human with out cheating.

To make a game from scrath (3D included) takes a lot of time, since you have to build your own model interperators and stuff so I do not recomend it unless your a group of 8 and know how 3D crap works and how to program advanced code.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Download the Microsoft XNA Game Studio. It's probably the best for homebrew games, and learning C to run it will get you far in life, because many professional coding jobs require it.

As for Vista? It's not the end of the world!

If you still have a copy of XP (or can obtain one) then you can dual boot! Meaning that you can choose between running XP or Vista when you start your computer. It's the best way to go, and you can still have both, games and vista.

Thank you so much.

And I know it may sound stupid, but if anyone really wants to make a game with this, then I think we should just team up and maybe it will go smoother.

 

[GST_Nemisis]

The AI for games like HALO 3 and Gears of War took probably 6 man months to make or more to make so unless you have a univercity qualification in artificial intelegance and crap I dought you can make an efficent AI that can out smart a human with out cheating.

the easiest AI for someone is not a proffessional would be random patrolling combined with a simple system where enemies will atack you when you enter their FOV. other things that wouldnt be too hard would be sound sensing in a radius around the enemy and a way for them to call for back up. of course its much easier to just request use of an already made ai system.

 

[Mechanical Man]

And consider also the basic AI is done, it is all about messing with those scripts. like making amai out of warcraft melee AI scripts.

Thank you so much.

And I know it may sound stupid, but if anyone really wants to make a game with this, then I think we should just team up and maybe it will go smoother.

I just hope it would not be just another WW2 or Sci-fi

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Microsoft download sites are the most annoying sites ever.

I try to dl the game studio, then I get to know I need another update, which also needs another program, which they barely mention what it is and have no idea where to get it.

So yeah. What the hell do I need to use this XNA studio thing? :/

 

[Dr Super Good]

since i can no longer play wc3 due to vista I was thinking about making my own games.

I am sure I have seen some people on Battlenet running vista. . .

 

[GST_Nemisis]

either A, dual boot B, take time out of your busy scheldual to update your drivers or C, make sure you have all the execution compability settings correctly configured.

 

[DarkDenizen]

I tried XNA, it's a pretty versatile little tool, although I'm not good enough with C to make a really good game (all I could muster was a quasi-3D version of asteroids with extra features). I would love to see what an experienced coder could do with it.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Still have no idea what I need to actually use the damn prgram.

 

[iron_warrior]

Still have no idea what I need to actually use the damn prgram.

You need Microsoft Visual C#. XNA is an extremely extensive addon to it. Visual C# Express Edition is pretty easy to find, just gewgle it (that's internet slang for google)

With XNA you can make games for XBox, PC, and, with an insane amount of work for the PS2 and Wii. Not sure if people have actually been able to detect the motion sensors on the Wii yet though, I think it was done.

 

[HappyTauren]

who makes games with express edition xD except daskalada ...

 

[brad.dude03]

Express edition ia free so why the hell not?

 

[Dr Super Good]

Probably because it is "crappier" than the non express edition (pay).

 

[brad.dude03]

Not by much, Express has features enough for the budding game developer and then some.

 

[Shadow_Fox]

I am sure I have seen some people on Battlenet running vista. . .

Yep, it works fine with compatibility mode for Windows XP enabled.

 

[iron_warrior]

Not by much, Express has features enough for the budding game developer and then some.

Better to learn on Express Edition, then buy the full.

Anyways, XNA can do gnarly things if you're experienced, but alot of things are missing since it's very new.

Worth learning.

 

[robot-dude]

You could use

The 3D GameMaker

System Requirements :

Minimum System Requirements
400 MHz Pentium II Processor
Windows 95 / 98 / 2000 / ME / XP (Home/Pro)
600 MB of hard disk space
64 MB of Ram
DirectX Version 7.0a
Fully DirectX compatible Graphics Card with 3D Acceleration and 8 MB Memory
Direct X compatible Sound Card
4x Speed CD-Rom Drive
Windows XP Users must download our free Patch to make The 3D Gamemaker work correctly

Recommended System Requirements
600 MHz Pentium III Processor
Windows 95 / 98 / 2000 / ME / XP (Home/Pro)
600 MB of hard disk space
128 MB of Ram
DirectX Version 8.0a
Fully DirectX compatible Graphics Card with 3D Acceleration and 16 MB Memory
Direct X compatible Sound Card
16x Speed CD-Rom Drive
Windows XP Users must download our free Patch to make The 3D Gamemaker work correctly

or Another one


DarkBasic

System Requirements :

System Requirements
300 MHz Pentium II Processor
Windows 95 / 98 / 2000 / ME / XP (Home / Pro)
60 MB of hard disk space
64 MB of Ram
DirectX Version 8.1+
Fully DirectX compatible Graphics Card with 8 MB Memory or more
Direct X compatible Sound Card
4x Speed CD-Rom Drive
Windows XP Users are advised to download our free 1.13 Upgrade

 

[brad.dude03]

Or you could use XNa, which is probably better than either of them....

 

[robot-dude]

I'm using a modeling program i found on that site .

When i go up 2 my dad's i'll get the Full Ver of it.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

3d Game maker looks nice.

But it coests something. And I'm just not that committed.

 

[iron_warrior]

And I'm just not that committed.

Then chances are you'd never learn XNA.

Oh, and...just so you, and every other aspiring game designer knows...

Any coder who works for free will rarely team up with you unless you too know how to code, or are a very, very good 3d Artist, no matter how good your game idea is. Because chances are, the reason they learned to code is so they could make their own games.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

When I was talking about teaming up, I was mostly referring to those who are as new to this as me, not pros. Even then, it's ridiculous.

And no I will never learn XNA. I recently realised I just don't plain like coding, and prefer modelling and texturing, even animating, especially when explosions are involved.

 

[DesKaladA]

who makes games with express edition xD except daskalada ...

ok yes you just pored salt on that wound agen

but try looing a b2cs at blender.org