[Altered Melee] Functional release - Cold Bath - A WarCraft II based project!

[DrarenThiralas]

V1.95b - Functional release - Cold Bath - A WarCraft II based project!

Consider it my repetition. Released here mainly for user testing. Have fun playing !

UPDATE: Version 1.95b is out NOW!!!
Features many bugfixes, new tree models, balancing, new items, and terrain changes.

Cold Bath
Created by DrarenThiralas

Map Info:

This is a 1vs1 altered melee map inspired by Warcraft II and Scars of Conflict.

Features:

1.Fully playable 3-tier orc and human races
2.Faster gameplay compared to vanilla Warcraft III
3.Lots of custom models and icons
4.There is more to come!


Screenshots

Screenshots

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Orc starting units

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Human staring units

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Orcs fighting some bandits

Image Description:
An Orc shipyard and a tanker near it

Change Log:

Change Log

Version 1

Initial release

Version 1.1

Added:

• a Hero

Changed:

• Minor grammatical and balance changes

Version 1.2

Added:

• 2 more Heroes
• More trees

Version 1.3

Added:

• A new island at top right
• More trees (again)
• Creeps!

Version 1.4

Changed:

• Top left island made smaller
• Great Hall and ships made cheaper

Version 1.5

Changed:

• Important Bloodlust fix
• A secret including currently in-dev humans!

Version 1.6

Added:

• Humans(currently tier one only, and no heroes)
• Minor balance changes

Version 1.7

Added:

• Humans tier 2(and 2 heroes)
• Major balance changes

Version 1.8

Added:

• Humans complete
• Major balance changes

Version 1.9

Added:

• Items

Version 1.95

Changed:

• Too much for a list

Version 1.95b

Changed:

• Lots of balancing and some new items. Also a terrain upgrade.

Credits:

Special Thanks:

• Blizzard Entertainment
• Mr.Goblin
• Deolrin

Also thanks to:

Models:

• Pyramidhe@d
• DonDustin
• Cavman
• Whitehorn
• Dmitry Rommel
• Xaran Alamas
• inico
• Fan
• Red XIII
• Kam
• AnemicRoyalty
• supertoinkz
• Mephestrial
• Tufy
• Frankster
• kola
• Mc !
• Kat
• NatDis
• AndrewOverload519
• JollyD
• loktar
• WILL THE ALMIGHTY
• DCrimson
• Stanakin
• Lichkings slave
• Talon the Mage
• UgoUgo
• Rommel
• Radagast
• Daenar7
• NFWar
• Tank-Commander
• Magtheridon96
• Blood Raven
• Apathetic
• Genin32

Please post your feedback in comments!

If you'll report a bug, I may give you +rep!

If you'll report a critical bug, I'll release a hotfix, and totally give you +rep!

Additional info: I can play this on Hamachi with anyone wishing to, provided that we can find the time that suits us both. PM me if you wanna play .

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[DrarenThiralas]

Ok, that's silly. This thread has more than 100 viewes, but noone has said a word! If you don't like it, at least tell me why!

 

[Garodar]

Good job working on this. As soon as my exams end, I'll give it shot.

 

[DrarenThiralas]

Yay! A comment!
I'm looking forward to hearing your opinion when you play it.

 

[loktar]

I will try this out when I get my computer properly set up again, looks cool

 

[DrarenThiralas]

Thanks! I need all the feedback I can get.

 

[loktar]

I'd love some feedback on my projects too if you're up for it <3

 

[PlankingWolf]

This looks really cool. The terrain is a bit off, needs work.

 

[DrarenThiralas]

This looks really cool. The terrain is a bit off, needs work.

Where exactly?

Funny fact: When I first released this map, everyone told me to redo the terrain. It was awful back there - two perfectly rectangle shaped blizzard-cliff islands. You can see that minimap in the first screenshot. Then I remade it from scratch using rolling shores and doodads. Now YOU tell me to redo the terrain

 

[Heinvers]

This looks really cool. The terrain is a bit off, needs work.

The terrain needs a lot of work. One word: Empty!

 

[DrarenThiralas]

The terrain needs a lot of work. One word: Empty!

Ok. I'll work on it now. Maybe you know any maps I could use as a reference (e.g. maps that have good terrain)?

 

[TaShadan]

You could ask Kam/Remixer/Ken-E for permission to use their maps.

I just started one game as human and i noticed several things:
-Some ships look like they are flying.
-Why are Knights buildable straight away, wouldnt that make footman useless?
-The Dwarven Lumberer is mechanical (is that intended)?

 

[DrarenThiralas]

You could ask Kam/Remixer/Ken-E for permission to use their maps.

I just started one game as human and i noticed several things:
-Some ships look like they are flying.
-Why are Knights buildable straight away, wouldnt that make footman useless?
-The Dwarven Lumberer is mechanical (is that intended)?

Thanks for your feedback!
The Knights are buildable right away as a kind of tier 1 elite unit. The footmen should still be useful as cheap cannon fodder they're intended to be. Shouldn't they?
At tier 2, the Knights can be upgraded, to fill the ogre's role for humans (initially, they fill rider's), and actually become more of a threat.

The other things are definitely bugs I'll start fixing right away!

 

[TaShadan]

I can not talk about balance yet. Have to play this in multiplayer first. But from the first view it looks like Footmen are not needed.

 

[DrarenThiralas]

I can not talk about balance yet. Have to play this in multiplayer first. But from the first view it looks like Footmen are not needed.

OK, I'll try to do something about that.

What do you mean ships are flying? I looked through all the ships both in game and in editor and I saw nothing like it...

 

[TaShadan]

Something is wrong with the selection circle. I did not mean they were flying Sorry.

 

[DrarenThiralas]

Something is wrong with the selection circle. I did not mean they were flying Sorry.

Fixed

This bug will not be in the next release, thanks to you!

+rep

EDIT: About the Knights, you should know that as far as I see it, the problem is actually the opposite of what you said. I tested 2 Knights against their footman cost-equivalent, and the footmen won with little loses. To counter that, I added a new special power to Wolf Raiders. They can attack from some distance away (not completely melee), which, combined with their Ensnare, is deadly against melee units. However, I also increased Knight attack range so that they would be a perfect counter to Wolf Raiders.

 

[TaShadan]

Balance is not done by numbers only. There are a lot of aspects like microability, crowd effect etc.
We should play to test it.

 

[DrarenThiralas]

Balance is not done by numbers only. There are a lot of aspects like microability, crowd effect etc.
We should play to test it.

Does that mean you're voluntering for it?

 

[TaShadan]

I am always rdy to play altered melee. I can not guarantee that i will play it frequently though.

 

[DrarenThiralas]

Is the terrain good enough now?

 

[DrarenThiralas]

New update coming out tomorrow! Will feature massive balance changes.

 

[DrarenThiralas]

The project is officially dead now! Gratz!

My dad thinks it's terrible 'cause it's not turn-based, my friends think it's terrible because it has no AI, and TaShadan thinks it's terrible because it's balanced the wrong way.

I can do nothing but agree.

 

[TaShadan]

I never said its terrible. I just do not like the way it is designed/balanced. Which does not mean it is imba. I can not talk about balance after 3 games.

 

[LordDz]

Phff, stay strong. Alpha version always lack in features.
Keep working on it.